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100 words of English: How far can it get you? 100 words of English: How far can it get you?
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By Peter Jackson BBC NewsBy Peter Jackson BBC News
England's Italian football manager Fabio Capello claims he can manage his players with just 100 words. So how far could you get with a vocabulary of that size?England's Italian football manager Fabio Capello claims he can manage his players with just 100 words. So how far could you get with a vocabulary of that size?
Despite his sometimes colourful language, communicating with Wayne Rooney does not require a Shakespearean command of English.Despite his sometimes colourful language, communicating with Wayne Rooney does not require a Shakespearean command of English.
That's just as well, as the England manager has admitted he's having problems learning some of the basics.That's just as well, as the England manager has admitted he's having problems learning some of the basics.
"If I need to speak about the economy or other things, I can't speak," he told reporters."If I need to speak about the economy or other things, I can't speak," he told reporters.
"But when you speak about tactics, you don't use a lot of words. I don't have to speak about a lot of different things. Maximum 100 words.""But when you speak about tactics, you don't use a lot of words. I don't have to speak about a lot of different things. Maximum 100 words."
In Capello's defence, his vocabulary appears to be far wider than 100 words. But how far would such a limited knowledge take you?In Capello's defence, his vocabulary appears to be far wider than 100 words. But how far would such a limited knowledge take you?
For Peter Howarth, deputy director of Leeds University's language centre, Capello's defence of his language skills looks shaky.For Peter Howarth, deputy director of Leeds University's language centre, Capello's defence of his language skills looks shaky.
"It's a ridiculously small number, you could learn 100 words in a couple of days, particularly when you're in the country surrounded by the language," he says."It's a ridiculously small number, you could learn 100 words in a couple of days, particularly when you're in the country surrounded by the language," he says.
"People do say that from a learners point of view, English is relatively easy to use without too much grammar... but Fabio Capello needs a range, presumably, and to communicate emotions and a bit of nuance.""People do say that from a learners point of view, English is relatively easy to use without too much grammar... but Fabio Capello needs a range, presumably, and to communicate emotions and a bit of nuance."
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He says when you start to learn English, it's fairly easy to get some kind of meaning across - which is why the language has spread so widely - but people end up speaking "tourist English".He says when you start to learn English, it's fairly easy to get some kind of meaning across - which is why the language has spread so widely - but people end up speaking "tourist English".
"A hundred words wouldn't get you beyond some very familiar situations in a phrase book - a weekend in London, how to get a hotel room or order a meal," he says."A hundred words wouldn't get you beyond some very familiar situations in a phrase book - a weekend in London, how to get a hotel room or order a meal," he says.
"A lot of us have done that in foreign countries: managed to get by, but in a pretty limited range of situations.""A lot of us have done that in foreign countries: managed to get by, but in a pretty limited range of situations."
A grasp of 1,500 words is needed to communicate at an intermediate level with "some range", he suggests.A grasp of 1,500 words is needed to communicate at an intermediate level with "some range", he suggests.
Estimates for the average size of a person's vocabulary vary, but TV lexicographer and dictionary expert Susie Dent says it's about 20,000 active words and 40,000 passive ones.Estimates for the average size of a person's vocabulary vary, but TV lexicographer and dictionary expert Susie Dent says it's about 20,000 active words and 40,000 passive ones.
She says it's important to distinguish between the active words we know and use and those we might know but don't use.She says it's important to distinguish between the active words we know and use and those we might know but don't use.
"Of course 100 words is limiting, but it's important to stress his [Capello's] passive language, otherwise how would he handle press conferences?" she says."Of course 100 words is limiting, but it's important to stress his [Capello's] passive language, otherwise how would he handle press conferences?" she says.
"It may be that for simple instruction on the pitch, 100 words is all he needs, it's not as absurd as perhaps it looks at face value.""It may be that for simple instruction on the pitch, 100 words is all he needs, it's not as absurd as perhaps it looks at face value."
She says the 100 most frequently used words - predominantly Old English - form the bedrock of everyday language.She says the 100 most frequently used words - predominantly Old English - form the bedrock of everyday language.
Ripe v matureRipe v mature
But according to Fiona Douglas, an English language lecturer at Leeds University, that figure is still well short of the number of words even a basic foreign language student usually commands.But according to Fiona Douglas, an English language lecturer at Leeds University, that figure is still well short of the number of words even a basic foreign language student usually commands.
She says advanced students using learner dictionaries to grasp the most frequently used and useful words, typically master around 7,500, and basic learners about 2,000.She says advanced students using learner dictionaries to grasp the most frequently used and useful words, typically master around 7,500, and basic learners about 2,000.
NHS guidelines suggest that by two years old, toddlers can say around 100 words and start putting them into short sentences.NHS guidelines suggest that by two years old, toddlers can say around 100 words and start putting them into short sentences.
Ms Douglas questioned whether somebody with just 100 words at their disposal would be able to form sentences with full grammatical syntax structures.Ms Douglas questioned whether somebody with just 100 words at their disposal would be able to form sentences with full grammatical syntax structures.
"Perhaps they would just concentrate on nouns or verbs like 'football', 'kick' or 'harder'," she says."Perhaps they would just concentrate on nouns or verbs like 'football', 'kick' or 'harder'," she says.
"It seems very optimistic that you could get by on that number, but then do people know what their active lexicon is? It's quite a hard question to answer.""It seems very optimistic that you could get by on that number, but then do people know what their active lexicon is? It's quite a hard question to answer."
Part of the problem when learning a language is understanding the context in which words should be used, she adds.Part of the problem when learning a language is understanding the context in which words should be used, she adds.
"If you read a dictionary, the words 'old', 'ripe' and 'mature' share something in meaning," she says."If you read a dictionary, the words 'old', 'ripe' and 'mature' share something in meaning," she says.
"If you called an older woman 'mature' you might get away with it, but if you called her 'ripe' you might get a cuff round the ear."If you called an older woman 'mature' you might get away with it, but if you called her 'ripe' you might get a cuff round the ear.
"It's about learning how and when to use the vocabulary, which is why learner dictionaries are very useful.""It's about learning how and when to use the vocabulary, which is why learner dictionaries are very useful."


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This comment is awaiting moderation. href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml#appear" target="_blank">Explain. It depends on for what you require words. Long time ago, motorcycling through Ethiopia, we were welcomed to a settlement for the night even though we had no common verbal language. However they understood my sign language of pointing at the sun. In Bulgaria with no common language a motorcyclist and I learnt about each others bikes and I learnt of the low fuel octane rating giving misfiring engine
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  • Interesting article! Two points:Capello's mother tongue isn't English, but many of today's players don't have English either - the Manager needs a core language that both he and all the players can work with.I'm surprised that there is no mention of Voice of America's Cold War Special English which used just 1,000 words - hence "law maker not MP, Senator etc, and Word Book not Dictionary!
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  • This comment is awaiting moderation. href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/moderation.shtml#appear" target="_blank">Explain. Not a please or thankyou in sight. Hello and goodbye are missing, too. Pretty poor level of conversation, here.
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  • Some basic facts from linguistics: the 100 most frequent words in English make up 5/8ths of a typical text. Cross out all words in a text except these, and meaning is lost: the substantial informativeness resides in the less frequent words, as information theory predicts, whereas the "100" sets provides the syntactical scaffolding. Nonspecialists make wildly incorrect judgments on active lexicon.Some basic facts from linguistics: the 100 most frequent words in English make up 5/8ths of a typical text. Cross out all words in a text except these, and meaning is lost: the substantial informativeness resides in the less frequent words, as information theory predicts, whereas the "100" sets provides the syntactical scaffolding. Nonspecialists make wildly incorrect judgments on active lexicon.
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  • It all depends on the "universe of discourse". A Russian conductor can communicate with an American orchestra perfectly well because they both understand about 100 words of Italian.It's also worth noting that many of your 100 top words are unnecessary - Russians speak English without articles, "would" implies grammatically ambitious sentences, and so on, and so forth. This article contains around 281 different words,although it depends if you include plurals and differents words from the same route (like 'need', 'needs' and 'needed'). I discounted names and words with 's at the end.So even the BBC don't need many more than 100!
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  • It's encouraging to see that the word good is placed... but not bad :) Perhaps a small insight into how we are.
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