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US 'would repeat Bin Laden raid' US 'would repeat Bin Laden raid'
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President Obama has indicated he would order a similar operation to that which killed Osama Bin Laden if another militant leader was found in Pakistan. US President Barack Obama has said he would order a similar operation to that which killed Osama Bin Laden if another militant leader was found in Pakistan.
He said the US was mindful of Pakistani sovereignty but said the US could not allow "active plans to come to fruition without us taking some action".He said the US was mindful of Pakistani sovereignty but said the US could not allow "active plans to come to fruition without us taking some action".
The killing of Bin Laden by US forces in a Pakistani garrison town on 2 May strained ties between the two allies.The killing of Bin Laden by US forces in a Pakistani garrison town on 2 May strained ties between the two allies.
President Barack Obama was speaking to the BBC ahead of a European visit. President Obama was speaking to the BBC ahead of a European visit.
Asked what he would do if one of al-Qaeda's top leaders, or the Taliban leader Mullah Omar, was tracked down to a location in Pakistan or another sovereign territory, he said the US would take unilateral action if required.Asked what he would do if one of al-Qaeda's top leaders, or the Taliban leader Mullah Omar, was tracked down to a location in Pakistan or another sovereign territory, he said the US would take unilateral action if required.
"Our job is to secure the United States," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr during a wide-ranging interview."Our job is to secure the United States," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr during a wide-ranging interview.
"We are very respectful of the sovereignty of Pakistan. But we cannot allow someone who is actively planning to kill our people or our allies' people."We are very respectful of the sovereignty of Pakistan. But we cannot allow someone who is actively planning to kill our people or our allies' people.
"We can't allow those kind of active plans to come to fruition without us taking some action.""We can't allow those kind of active plans to come to fruition without us taking some action."
Tense partnershipTense partnership
Bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of al-Qaeda, was killed in a raid by US Navy Seal commandos. They stormed the compound where he was living in Abbottabad, a town that is home to Pakistan's main military academy.Bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of al-Qaeda, was killed in a raid by US Navy Seal commandos. They stormed the compound where he was living in Abbottabad, a town that is home to Pakistan's main military academy.
The interview lays bare the complexities of pursuing a joined-up US foreign policy - complexities which lead the president to indicate that he is willing to order a covert strike on Mullah Omar should the opportunity arise, while conceding that talks with Omar's Taliban are central to any viable settlement in Afghanistan.The interview lays bare the complexities of pursuing a joined-up US foreign policy - complexities which lead the president to indicate that he is willing to order a covert strike on Mullah Omar should the opportunity arise, while conceding that talks with Omar's Taliban are central to any viable settlement in Afghanistan.
The complexities produce a carefully nuanced message to a post-Bin Laden Pakistan, which is part lecture about the need to prioritise the fight with home-grown militants, and part encouragement about co-operation in the future.The complexities produce a carefully nuanced message to a post-Bin Laden Pakistan, which is part lecture about the need to prioritise the fight with home-grown militants, and part encouragement about co-operation in the future.
The complexities also lead Mr Obama to defend last week's policy shift on the Middle East, which so angered Israel, but also to slap down Palestinian aspirations to achieve statehood through a vote at the UN later this year.The complexities also lead Mr Obama to defend last week's policy shift on the Middle East, which so angered Israel, but also to slap down Palestinian aspirations to achieve statehood through a vote at the UN later this year.
And finally, the complexities see Mr Obama evoke a proud tradition of non-violent protest to encourage demonstrators in Syria while stopping short of calling for the departure of the leader they despise. This is in contrast to Washington's clear regime-change line on Libya.And finally, the complexities see Mr Obama evoke a proud tradition of non-violent protest to encourage demonstrators in Syria while stopping short of calling for the departure of the leader they despise. This is in contrast to Washington's clear regime-change line on Libya.
The discovery that Bin Laden had been living there embarrassed the Pakistani military, and led to renewed suspicions that he had enjoyed protection from some members of the Pakistani security forces.The discovery that Bin Laden had been living there embarrassed the Pakistani military, and led to renewed suspicions that he had enjoyed protection from some members of the Pakistani security forces.
The Islamabad government strongly denied such suggestions and said the US raid had undermined the country's sovereignty.The Islamabad government strongly denied such suggestions and said the US raid had undermined the country's sovereignty.
A resolution approved by Pakistani MPs earlier this month said the country would "no longer tolerate such actions and a repeat of unilateral measures could have dire consequences for peace and security in the region and the world".A resolution approved by Pakistani MPs earlier this month said the country would "no longer tolerate such actions and a repeat of unilateral measures could have dire consequences for peace and security in the region and the world".
Pakistan has been a major ally in the war against militants in neighbouring Afghanistan.Pakistan has been a major ally in the war against militants in neighbouring Afghanistan.
But US-Pakistani relations have also been strained by drone strikes targeting militants in the border area in recent years.But US-Pakistani relations have also been strained by drone strikes targeting militants in the border area in recent years.
Reflecting on the raid - which he and his aides followed from the White House - Mr Obama said "that was as long a 40 minutes as I care to experience during my presidency".Reflecting on the raid - which he and his aides followed from the White House - Mr Obama said "that was as long a 40 minutes as I care to experience during my presidency".
He added that the killing of Bin Laden could be a "wake-up call where we start seeing a more effective co-operative relationship" with Pakistan.He added that the killing of Bin Laden could be a "wake-up call where we start seeing a more effective co-operative relationship" with Pakistan.
Talking to the TalibanTalking to the Taliban
On Afghanistan, Mr Obama said that while the conflict could not be solved militarily, raising troop levels had put the Taliban "back on its heels" in a way that could facilitate the brokering of a political reconciliation.On Afghanistan, Mr Obama said that while the conflict could not be solved militarily, raising troop levels had put the Taliban "back on its heels" in a way that could facilitate the brokering of a political reconciliation.
"Ultimately it means talking to the Taliban," he said, adding that the "Taliban would have to cut all ties to al-Qaeda, renounce violence and they would have to respect the Afghan constitution"."Ultimately it means talking to the Taliban," he said, adding that the "Taliban would have to cut all ties to al-Qaeda, renounce violence and they would have to respect the Afghan constitution".
In a discussion that ranged from the US economy to Middle East peace talks and his family's fondness for the British monarch, Mr Obama:In a discussion that ranged from the US economy to Middle East peace talks and his family's fondness for the British monarch, Mr Obama:
  • Restated that the 1967 border between Israel and the Palestinian Territories must be the basis for negotiations to set up a future Palestinian state
  • Praised the popular uprisings across the Middle East, saying that as long as people struggled for democracy non-violently the US would be "strongly supportive of their efforts"
  • Described America's economy as his "number-one focus" in the run-up to the 2012 presidential election. "My main concern day to day is how do we make sure the American economy is growing," he said
  • Praised domestic successes over health care, education, clean energy.
  • Acknowledged that the US had unfinished business over immigration and the energy bill.
  • Restated that the 1967 border between Israel and the Palestinian territories must be the basis for negotiations to set up a future Palestinian state
  • Praised the popular uprisings across the Middle East, saying that as long as people struggled for democracy non-violently the US would be "strongly supportive of their efforts"
  • Described America's economy as his "number-one focus" in the run-up to the 2012 presidential election; "My main concern day to day is how do we make sure the American economy is growing," he said
  • Praised domestic successes on healthcare, education and clean energy
  • Acknowledged that the US had unfinished business over immigration and the energy bill.
President Obama is due to leave for Europe later on Sunday. He will first visit the Irish Republic, then the UK, France, and Poland.President Obama is due to leave for Europe later on Sunday. He will first visit the Irish Republic, then the UK, France, and Poland.
He is expected to discuss a range of issues, including the upheavals in the Middle east and North Africa, the war in Afghanistan, and the downturn that has forced European governments to adopt austerity measures.He is expected to discuss a range of issues, including the upheavals in the Middle east and North Africa, the war in Afghanistan, and the downturn that has forced European governments to adopt austerity measures.