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Lawrence trial: Accused told police he was 'no racist' Lawrence trial: Accused told police he was 'no racist'
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One of the men accused of murdering Stephen Lawrence told police after his 1993 arrest: "I ain't the murderer and I ain't no racist", his trial heard. A man accused of murdering Stephen Lawrence told police after his 1993 arrest: "I ain't the murderer and I ain't no racist," his trial has heard.
Gary Dobson, 36, and David Norris, 35, deny murdering the 18-year-old. Gary Dobson also denied knowing his co-defendant David Norris in the interviews, the Old Bailey heard.
They deny being part of a group of white youths that shouted a racist remark before stabbing Mr Lawrence twice, in Eltham, south London. However, the pair had already been photographed together by police surveillance teams, the court heard previously.
The Old Bailey also heard Mr Dobson claimed he borrowed a Bob Marley CD from a friend an hour later. They deny murdering Mr Lawrence, 18, in Eltham, south-east London, in 1993.
Mr Dobson denied he knew Mr Norris during police interviews following his arrest in May 1993. During police interviews following his arrest in May 1993, Mr Dobson, 35, was asked repeatedly whether the name Dave written in his diary referred to Mr Norris. He claimed that they were about a man called Dave Williams.
He was asked repeatedly whether the name Dave written in his diary referred to Mr Norris. Later, when the name David Norris was put to him, he denied having ever met him.
'Don't know him' Interview transcripts were read to the jury in which Mr Dobson said: "I don't know who you mean. I've heard the name, I've heard the name but I don't know who you mean."
Police believed Mr Norris was at the home of Neil and Jamie Acourt when Mr Dobson visited at 23:45 GMT on the night of the murder, the court heard. He later added: "I know of a David Norris, I've heard his name mentioned just in conversation or whatever... I've not actually met him."
Interview transcripts were read to the jury in which Mr Dobson said: "I don't know who you mean. I've heard the name but I don't know who he is." Murder scene
The jury has already been shown pictures taken by a police surveillance team which showed Mr Dobson with Mr Norris outside the home of the Acourt brothers. The jury has already been shown pictures taken by a police surveillance team which showed Mr Dobson with Mr Norris outside the home of brothers Neil and Jamie Acourt, who are not on trial.
During the 1993 interview he was also asked about a grey and yellow baseball jacket seized from this house. Police believed Mr Norris, 36, was at the home of the Acourt brothers when Mr Dobson visited at 23:45 GMT after Mr Lawrence's murder, the court heard.
During house-to-house inquiries Mr Dobson said that he was at home all that evening, but later admitted that he had gone to the Acourts to borrow a Bob Marley CD.
Another acquaintance visited and told them about the murder, which had happened yards from Mr Dobson's house.
When asked why he did not go to look at the scene, Mr Dobson said: "No, it was horrible. What do I want to go to a murder scene for? It's none of my business."
The officer said: "That's why you didn't want to go back, because you were there when it happened."
Mr Dobson replied: "No I wasn't; it's not any of my business what went on there."
Baseball jacket
During the 1993 interview he was also asked about a grey and yellow baseball jacket.
Forensic evidence from the jacket is at the centre of the case against Mr Dobson.Forensic evidence from the jacket is at the centre of the case against Mr Dobson.
Mr Dobson said it was of "sentimental value" because it had been given to him by a neighbour who was a television presenter. He said it was of "sentimental value" because it had been given to him by a neighbour who was a television presenter.
But he said he had the "mickey" taken out of him because the jacket had Supertramp embroidered on the back and he had stopped wearing it.But he said he had the "mickey" taken out of him because the jacket had Supertramp embroidered on the back and he had stopped wearing it.
During the interview Mr Dobson insisted he had played "no part" in the murder of Mr Lawrence.During the interview Mr Dobson insisted he had played "no part" in the murder of Mr Lawrence.
Mr Norris exercised his right to remain silent in his police interviews, on the advice of his solicitor.
The trial continues.The trial continues.