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Cameron and Miliband unite to oppose Scots independence Cameron and Miliband unite to oppose Scots independence
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David Cameron and Ed Miliband have jointly urged Scotland to reject calls for independence if a referendum is held on the subject . David Cameron and Ed Miliband have jointly urged Scotland to reject calls for independence if a referendum is held on the subject.
The prime minister told MPs he believed "passionately" in the Union, while the Labour leader said its break up would be damaging to the UK's economy.The prime minister told MPs he believed "passionately" in the Union, while the Labour leader said its break up would be damaging to the UK's economy.
Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond has said he will hold a referendum on independence in autumn 2014.Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond has said he will hold a referendum on independence in autumn 2014.
But the coalition says any a vote would be unlawful without their approval.But the coalition says any a vote would be unlawful without their approval.
The Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Labour are opposed to Scottish independence and the leaders of all three parties have promised to fight against the cause championed by Mr Salmond's Scottish National Party (SNP).The Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Labour are opposed to Scottish independence and the leaders of all three parties have promised to fight against the cause championed by Mr Salmond's Scottish National Party (SNP).
The Scottish government insists it can go ahead with a referendum without the need for a law to be passed at Westminster - but the coalition disputes this.The Scottish government insists it can go ahead with a referendum without the need for a law to be passed at Westminster - but the coalition disputes this.
At Prime Minister's Questions, Mr Cameron called for cross-border talks with Scottish ministers in an effort to end the constitutional dispute.At Prime Minister's Questions, Mr Cameron called for cross-border talks with Scottish ministers in an effort to end the constitutional dispute.
'Never-endum''Never-endum'
He told MPs: "I passionately believe in the future of our United Kingdom. I passionately believe we are stronger together rather than breaking apart.He told MPs: "I passionately believe in the future of our United Kingdom. I passionately believe we are stronger together rather than breaking apart.
"Frankly I'm sad that we are even having this debate because I support the United Kingdom so strongly."Frankly I'm sad that we are even having this debate because I support the United Kingdom so strongly.
"But we have to respect the fact that Scotland voted for a separatist party at those Scottish parliamentary elections, so the first thing it is right to do is to make clear the legal position about the referendum.""But we have to respect the fact that Scotland voted for a separatist party at those Scottish parliamentary elections, so the first thing it is right to do is to make clear the legal position about the referendum."
But he said: "Too many in the SNP are happy to talk about the process; they don't want to talk about the substance.But he said: "Too many in the SNP are happy to talk about the process; they don't want to talk about the substance.
"I sometimes feel when I listen to them it's not a referendum they want; it's a never-endum. Let's have the debate and let's keep our country together.""I sometimes feel when I listen to them it's not a referendum they want; it's a never-endum. Let's have the debate and let's keep our country together."
Mr Miliband agreed, telling the Commons: "We are stronger together and weaker apart."Mr Miliband agreed, telling the Commons: "We are stronger together and weaker apart."
He called for "immediate cross-party talks" in Scotland about the timing of the vote and the nature of the "single question" which would be asked in a referendum.He called for "immediate cross-party talks" in Scotland about the timing of the vote and the nature of the "single question" which would be asked in a referendum.
Meanwhile, Labour's former chancellor Alistair Darling has called for his party, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems to work together to oppose the SNP's plan.Meanwhile, Labour's former chancellor Alistair Darling has called for his party, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems to work together to oppose the SNP's plan.
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "The last thing Scotland needs is for this to be posed as somehow an SNP government in Edinburgh up against a Tory government in London.He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "The last thing Scotland needs is for this to be posed as somehow an SNP government in Edinburgh up against a Tory government in London.
"That would be very, very bad... That's what Salmond wants it to be. It suits him down to the ground.""That would be very, very bad... That's what Salmond wants it to be. It suits him down to the ground."
The SNP says it is "entirely confident" of its plans to bring in a Referendum Bill setting up a vote for autumn 2014.The SNP says it is "entirely confident" of its plans to bring in a Referendum Bill setting up a vote for autumn 2014.
But the Westminster government argues that any referendum should take place "sooner rather than later".But the Westminster government argues that any referendum should take place "sooner rather than later".
In his statement to MPs on Tuesday, Scottish Secretary Michael Moore said the government's "clear view" was that the power to hold a referendum was "reserved" to Westminster under devolution laws passed in 1998 and that the Scottish government could not authorise a referendum on its own.In his statement to MPs on Tuesday, Scottish Secretary Michael Moore said the government's "clear view" was that the power to hold a referendum was "reserved" to Westminster under devolution laws passed in 1998 and that the Scottish government could not authorise a referendum on its own.
If Westminster and Holyrood fail to resolve the legal issue it could end up being ruled over by the Supreme Court.If Westminster and Holyrood fail to resolve the legal issue it could end up being ruled over by the Supreme Court.