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NHS plans: Unions move to 'outright opposition' NHS plans: Unions move to 'outright opposition'
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By Nick Triggle Health correspondent, BBC NewsBy Nick Triggle Health correspondent, BBC News
The unions representing nurses and midwives have joined others in stating their "outright opposition" to the government's NHS plans in England.The unions representing nurses and midwives have joined others in stating their "outright opposition" to the government's NHS plans in England.
The Royal College of Nursing and the Royal College of Midwives had expressed concerns in the past, but said they were willing to work with ministers.The Royal College of Nursing and the Royal College of Midwives had expressed concerns in the past, but said they were willing to work with ministers.
However, now they want the entire bill covering the changes to be dropped.However, now they want the entire bill covering the changes to be dropped.
The government said it was disappointed as the bill would "empower" front-line staff to take charge of improving care. Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said the unions wanted to "have a go" at government about "pay and pensions".
The colleges' stance comes after a similar move by the British Medical Association last year.The colleges' stance comes after a similar move by the British Medical Association last year.
It also mirrors the stance adopted by Unison, which represents a host of administration and support staff, such as porters.It also mirrors the stance adopted by Unison, which represents a host of administration and support staff, such as porters.
The Health and Social Care Bill is still working its way through Parliament. But what impact this intervention has remains to be seen.
It is currently in the House of Lords and will be returning to the Commons soon, but changes are already being made on the ground to pave the way for the new system which kicks in in 2013. The Health and Social Care Bill is still working its way through Parliament, and the bill is in the Lords at the moment.
In many ways it is over the worst political hurdles and it seems the only way it could be stopped would be if the Lib Dems blocked it when it returns to the Commons - but that is considered unlikely.
On the ground, changes are already being made to pave the way for the new system to kick in, in 2013.
For example, while the doctors union is against it there has still been enough GPs coming forward to pilot the new plans in 97% of the country.
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Under the plans, GPs are being put in charge of much of the NHS budget, while the health service is being opened up to greater competition from the private and voluntary sector.Under the plans, GPs are being put in charge of much of the NHS budget, while the health service is being opened up to greater competition from the private and voluntary sector.
In June the government announced a series of changes to the original proposals in the face of mounting opposition.In June the government announced a series of changes to the original proposals in the face of mounting opposition.
These included giving health professionals other than GPs more power over how NHS funds were spent, as well as watering down the role of competition.These included giving health professionals other than GPs more power over how NHS funds were spent, as well as watering down the role of competition.
The health unions initially gave the changes a cautious welcome, but they have been left disappointed by the finer details that have emerged during the parliamentary process.The health unions initially gave the changes a cautious welcome, but they have been left disappointed by the finer details that have emerged during the parliamentary process.
One of the key developments was the news, which emerged just after Christmas, that NHS hospitals would be allowed to do 49% of their work in the private sector.One of the key developments was the news, which emerged just after Christmas, that NHS hospitals would be allowed to do 49% of their work in the private sector.
Peter Carter, general secretary of the RCN, which represents 410,000 nurses, midwives, support workers and students, said: "The RCN has been on record as saying that withdrawing the bill would create confusion and turmoil, however, on the ground, we believe that the turmoil of proceeding with these reforms is now greater than the turmoil of stopping them.Peter Carter, general secretary of the RCN, which represents 410,000 nurses, midwives, support workers and students, said: "The RCN has been on record as saying that withdrawing the bill would create confusion and turmoil, however, on the ground, we believe that the turmoil of proceeding with these reforms is now greater than the turmoil of stopping them.
"The sheer scale of member concerns, which have been building over recent weeks, has led us to conclude that the consequences of the bill may be entirely different from the principles which were originally set out.""The sheer scale of member concerns, which have been building over recent weeks, has led us to conclude that the consequences of the bill may be entirely different from the principles which were originally set out."
Cathy Warwick, of the RCM, said: "The government has failed to present sufficient evidence that its proposals are necessary. They have failed to present evidence that the upheaval will result in an improvement in services to the people of England.Cathy Warwick, of the RCM, said: "The government has failed to present sufficient evidence that its proposals are necessary. They have failed to present evidence that the upheaval will result in an improvement in services to the people of England.
"And they have failed to answer the concerns of the people who fear for the future of the NHS under these plans.""And they have failed to answer the concerns of the people who fear for the future of the NHS under these plans."
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Both unions also expressed concerns that the changes were compromising the ability of the NHS to make the £20bn of savings it has been asked to make by 2015.Both unions also expressed concerns that the changes were compromising the ability of the NHS to make the £20bn of savings it has been asked to make by 2015.
Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said he agreed it was time to scrap the bill. Mr Lansley said that nurses had previously been "right at the heart" of the process of planning reforms to the NHS to deliver better care for patients.
"A reorganisation on this scale needs a professional consensus for it to succeed. A year since the bill was introduced, it is abundantly clear that the government's plans do have failed to build that." "The only thing that has happened in the last few weeks that has led to this situation with the Royal College of Nursing, is that the two sides of the Royal College of Nursing have shifted," he told BBC Breakfast.
"They used to be a professional association that was working with us on professional issues, and will carry on doing that, but now the trade union aspect of the Royal College of Nursing has come to the fore.
"They want to have a go at the government - and I completely understand it - they want to have a go about things like pay and pensions."
A Department of Health spokesman said: "The bill is needed to empower doctors, nurses, and other front-line healthcare workers across the NHS to take charge of improving care.A Department of Health spokesman said: "The bill is needed to empower doctors, nurses, and other front-line healthcare workers across the NHS to take charge of improving care.
"We will continue to work with nurses and all other health professionals to ensure that the NHS delivers the best possible care for patients.""We will continue to work with nurses and all other health professionals to ensure that the NHS delivers the best possible care for patients."
Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said it was time to scrap the bill.
"A reorganisation on this scale needs a professional consensus for it to succeed. A year since the bill was introduced, it is abundantly clear that the government's plans do have failed to build that."
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