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| Greggs the bakers adds to work experience scheme concern | Greggs the bakers adds to work experience scheme concern |
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| Bakery chain Greggs has become the latest company to voice concern over the government's controversial work experience scheme for jobless people. | Bakery chain Greggs has become the latest company to voice concern over the government's controversial work experience scheme for jobless people. |
| Chief executive Ken McMeikan told the BBC he was not be comfortable with young people potentially losing their benefits if they leave the initiative. | Chief executive Ken McMeikan told the BBC he was not be comfortable with young people potentially losing their benefits if they leave the initiative. |
| Critics say the Get Britain Working project is "slave labour" that exploits people on benefits. | Critics say the Get Britain Working project is "slave labour" that exploits people on benefits. |
| The government has insisted that the scheme is an "excellent" opportunity. | The government has insisted that the scheme is an "excellent" opportunity. |
| Waterstones and Maplin have already left the scheme, and Matalan said it had suspended its involvement pending a review. Tesco and Argos have expressed concern. | Waterstones and Maplin have already left the scheme, and Matalan said it had suspended its involvement pending a review. Tesco and Argos have expressed concern. |
| Sainsbury's, meanwhile, said the small number of stores that took part in the scheme following local approaches had since ceased participation, as it was not company policy. | Sainsbury's, meanwhile, said the small number of stores that took part in the scheme following local approaches had since ceased participation, as it was not company policy. |
| Mr McMeikan told BBC Two's Newsnight programme that he and other business leaders would meet the government next week to discuss aspects of the scheme. | Mr McMeikan told BBC Two's Newsnight programme that he and other business leaders would meet the government next week to discuss aspects of the scheme. |
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| He said: "If after a week or more you decide as an individual that it's not working for you and you leave the scheme, we don't believe at Greggs that the benefits should be taken away. | He said: "If after a week or more you decide as an individual that it's not working for you and you leave the scheme, we don't believe at Greggs that the benefits should be taken away. |
| "Our view is if they are volunteering to come on this scheme, and for whatever reason they come off, then they go back onto benefits. | "Our view is if they are volunteering to come on this scheme, and for whatever reason they come off, then they go back onto benefits. |
| "I would be very uncomfortable if the response that we get next week is that [the government] would continue with the scheme as it is at the moment where, if after more than a week into the placement, people come off then they lose benefits." | "I would be very uncomfortable if the response that we get next week is that [the government] would continue with the scheme as it is at the moment where, if after more than a week into the placement, people come off then they lose benefits." |
| But he added: "There is a small minority of people out there who don't like the scheme. | But he added: "There is a small minority of people out there who don't like the scheme. |
| "When you speak to the young people that have gone through the scheme, they actually like it and they want us to continue offering it as employers." | "When you speak to the young people that have gone through the scheme, they actually like it and they want us to continue offering it as employers." |
| Under the scheme job centres can arrange unpaid work experience placements for unemployed people, which are initially voluntary. | Under the scheme job centres can arrange unpaid work experience placements for unemployed people, which are initially voluntary. |
| But if they complete a week of work they have to remain in place for up to two months, or risk losing their benefits. | But if they complete a week of work they have to remain in place for up to two months, or risk losing their benefits. |
| Kirsty McHugh, of the Employment Related Services Association, said: "It seems that some issues around the benefit rules are getting in the way of people volunteering and companies wanting to provide work placements. | Kirsty McHugh, of the Employment Related Services Association, said: "It seems that some issues around the benefit rules are getting in the way of people volunteering and companies wanting to provide work placements. |
| "If that's the case we think the government should look at the benefit rules again." | "If that's the case we think the government should look at the benefit rules again." |
| The programme offers the long-term unemployed work experience or training, while providing financial incentives to employers. | The programme offers the long-term unemployed work experience or training, while providing financial incentives to employers. |
| If jobseekers choose to take part but then fail to turn up without good reason, their benefits could be removed. This has led critics to question whether the placements are really "voluntary". | If jobseekers choose to take part but then fail to turn up without good reason, their benefits could be removed. This has led critics to question whether the placements are really "voluntary". |
| 'Demonstrate potential' | 'Demonstrate potential' |
| The scheme has attracted adverse publicity recently, with opponents claiming large companies are using it for cheap labour. | |
| But the Department for Work and Pensions has said it is an "excellent scheme that we know is making a real difference to the job prospects of young people". | But the Department for Work and Pensions has said it is an "excellent scheme that we know is making a real difference to the job prospects of young people". |
| Employment Minister Chris Grayling told Newsnight: "The work experience scheme is a voluntary scheme to provide young people who are unemployed with an opportunity to get into the workplace and demonstrate to a potential employer what they can offer. | Employment Minister Chris Grayling told Newsnight: "The work experience scheme is a voluntary scheme to provide young people who are unemployed with an opportunity to get into the workplace and demonstrate to a potential employer what they can offer. |
| "Or they can gain some experience to take to an interview elsewhere. | "Or they can gain some experience to take to an interview elsewhere. |
| "The scheme's voluntary, they will go and meet the potential employer, if they're happy they will start the placement, if that placement doesn't work out they can leave in the first few days. | "The scheme's voluntary, they will go and meet the potential employer, if they're happy they will start the placement, if that placement doesn't work out they can leave in the first few days. |
| "If they decide to leave at a later date we will investigate the reason why. If they've left without good reason they could face a sanction. | "If they decide to leave at a later date we will investigate the reason why. If they've left without good reason they could face a sanction. |
| "That sanction is the same sanction they might face for not turning up for a fortnightly job interview." | "That sanction is the same sanction they might face for not turning up for a fortnightly job interview." |