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11.58am: I can't put it off any longer. I'm afraid I've got to write about David Cameron's environment speech this morning.
As my colleague Damian Carrington explained yesterday, Cameron was due to make an imporant speech on the subject today. But it was downgraded, and instead something that, frankly, was rather dull. He said some green energy investments being announced today could create up to 800 jobs. And he said that a new partnership, Norstec, will be announced to develop offshore wind opportunities in the North Sea. You can read full details on the Number 10 website.
There's some Guardian video from his speech here.
It only last a minute.
11.43am: And, for the record, here are the YouGov GB polling figures from last night.
Labour: 43% (no change since Tuesday night)
Conservatives: 32% (no change)
Lib Dems: 9% (up 1)
Labour lead: 11 points
Government approval: -40
11.41am: A ComRes poll puts Boris Johnson eight points ahead of Ken Livingstone in the London mayoral race. The election takes place a week today.
11.05am: You can read all today's Guardian politics stories here. And all the politics stories filed yesterday, including some in today's paper, are here.11.05am: You can read all today's Guardian politics stories here. And all the politics stories filed yesterday, including some in today's paper, are here.
I don't normally flag up Guardian stories in my round up, partly because if you are reading this, you may be reading other stories on the site anyway, and partly because I take the view that the Guardian's always good and it's invidious to pick out certain articles and not others. But I'll make an exception today because some of our coverage is exceptional. I'd particularly recommend:I don't normally flag up Guardian stories in my round up, partly because if you are reading this, you may be reading other stories on the site anyway, and partly because I take the view that the Guardian's always good and it's invidious to pick out certain articles and not others. But I'll make an exception today because some of our coverage is exceptional. I'd particularly recommend:
• Harold Evans on how Rupert Murdoch's account of his takeover of the Times and the Sunday Times was wrong.

• Nick Davies on how Rupert Murdoch's evidence yesterday was more revealing than he intended.
• Harold Evans on how Rupert Murdoch's account of his takeover of the Times and the Sunday Times was wrong.

• Nick Davies on how Rupert Murdoch's evidence yesterday was more revealing than he intended.
• Michael White's sketch on Rupert Murdoch.

• Simon Hoggart's sketch on Jeremy Hunt.
• Michael White's sketch on Rupert Murdoch.

• Simon Hoggart's sketch on Jeremy Hunt.
• David Leigh on whether or not the claims made by Jeremy Hunt in his defence stand up.

• Martin Kettle on how the demise of the Murdochs could affect Britain's Europe policy for a generation.
• David Leigh on whether or not the claims made by Jeremy Hunt in his defence stand up.

• Martin Kettle on how the demise of the Murdochs could affect Britain's Europe policy for a generation.
As for the rest of the papers, here are some articles that are particularly interesting.As for the rest of the papers, here are some articles that are particularly interesting.
• Peter Oborne in the Daily Telegraph suggests the Murdoch affair could bring down David Cameron.
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• Peter Oborne in the Daily Telegraph suggests the Murdoch affair could bring down David Cameron.

There is emerging circumstantial evidence that the Cameron government entered into what looks suspiciously like a Grand Bargain with the Murdoch newspaper empire before the last election. It may have gone like this: the Murdoch press would throw its weight behind the Conservative Party in the 2010 general election, and in return the Conservatives would back known Murdoch policy objectives ...

There is emerging circumstantial evidence that the Cameron government entered into what looks suspiciously like a Grand Bargain with the Murdoch newspaper empire before the last election. It may have gone like this: the Murdoch press would throw its weight behind the Conservative Party in the 2010 general election, and in return the Conservatives would back known Murdoch policy objectives ...
At this stage the evidence is only circumstantial, but the charge that the Cameron government has done commercial favours for the Murdochs in return for political support is very serious. This, if true, would amount to corruption. Certainly, if proven, it would force the resignation of Mr Hunt. But it is not impossible that the Government would fall. Mr Hunt is one of Mr Cameron's closest friends in the Cabinet, and would never have set out on the course he did without the agreement of the Prime Minister.At this stage the evidence is only circumstantial, but the charge that the Cameron government has done commercial favours for the Murdochs in return for political support is very serious. This, if true, would amount to corruption. Certainly, if proven, it would force the resignation of Mr Hunt. But it is not impossible that the Government would fall. Mr Hunt is one of Mr Cameron's closest friends in the Cabinet, and would never have set out on the course he did without the agreement of the Prime Minister.
• Steve Richards in the Independent says a government has never been as fragile since the Major government in the 1990s.• Steve Richards in the Independent says a government has never been as fragile since the Major government in the 1990s.
The Leveson Inquiry and the police investigation continue and will make waves every now and again right up until the next election. Cameron can just about brush aside allegations that he got too close to Murdoch on the basis that his Prime Ministerial predecessors did the same, although it becomes much harder for him to claim he is a different type of leader who has learnt from the past. But it is the BSkyB deal that makes the association more toxic, and there are too many emails and investigations to assume that no more will emerge.The Leveson Inquiry and the police investigation continue and will make waves every now and again right up until the next election. Cameron can just about brush aside allegations that he got too close to Murdoch on the basis that his Prime Ministerial predecessors did the same, although it becomes much harder for him to claim he is a different type of leader who has learnt from the past. But it is the BSkyB deal that makes the association more toxic, and there are too many emails and investigations to assume that no more will emerge.
A government has never been as fragile since John Major staggered from crisis to crisis in the mid 1990s.A government has never been as fragile since John Major staggered from crisis to crisis in the mid 1990s.
• Cahal Milmo and Oliver Wright in the Independent says the Financial Services Authority may launch an inquiry into Jeremy Hunt's adviser.• Cahal Milmo and Oliver Wright in the Independent says the Financial Services Authority may launch an inquiry into Jeremy Hunt's adviser.
• Rowena Mason in the Daily Telegraph says Rupert Murdoch met David Cameron on at least five more occasions than Cameron has admitted.• Rowena Mason in the Daily Telegraph says Rupert Murdoch met David Cameron on at least five more occasions than Cameron has admitted.
10.34am: Sir George Young, the leader of the Commons, has published a green paper on parliamentary privilege (pdf). He has also announced that the government will set up a joint committee of both Houses to consider. Here's an extract from the green paper.10.34am: Sir George Young, the leader of the Commons, has published a green paper on parliamentary privilege (pdf). He has also announced that the government will set up a joint committee of both Houses to consider. Here's an extract from the green paper.
All strong democracies have at their core the recognition that parliamentarians must be free to speak their mind in debates – and MPs to represent their constituents' views - without fear or favour. This is at the heart of the privileges of Parliament which are an integral part of ourconstitutional arrangements. Indeed, the privileges of the Westminster Parliament are the model for the privileges of many legislatures around the world. All strong democracies have at their core the recognition that parliamentarians must be free to speak their mind in debates – and MPs to represent their constituents' views - without fear or favour. This is at the heart of the privileges of Parliament which are an integral part of our constitutional arrangements. Indeed, the privileges of the Westminster Parliament are the model for the privileges of many legislatures around the world.
But parliamentary privilege is little understood outside of Westminster, and the connotation of the word "privilege" is unfortunate in its suggestion of special treatment for Members of Parliament. That connotation was reinforced in 2010 when some MPs and peers attempted to invoke parliamentary privilege to prevent criminal prosecutions for offences relating to theirparliamentary expenses. Of course, this attempt ultimately failed; it was reassuring that it did so, because it showed that privilege is only intended to provide protection in relation to the core functions of Parliament. Nonetheless, it served as a reminder that even the most durable of constitutional tenets should periodically be reviewed. But parliamentary privilege is little understood outside of Westminster, and the connotation of the word "privilege" is unfortunate in its suggestion of special treatment for Members of Parliament. That connotation was reinforced in 2010 when some MPs and peers attempted to invoke parliamentary privilege to prevent criminal prosecutions for offences relating to their parliamentary expenses. Of course, this attempt ultimately failed; it was reassuring that it did so, because it showed that privilege is only intended to provide protection in relation to the core functions of Parliament. Nonetheless, it served as a reminder that even the most durable of constitutional tenets should periodically be reviewed.
The green paper covers issues like whether the Commons should have the power to fine members of the public for not cooperating with select committee inquiries.The green paper covers issues like whether the Commons should have the power to fine members of the public for not cooperating with select committee inquiries.
10.06am: Rupert Murdoch has started giving evidence again to Leveson. Josh Halliday and John Plunkett are covering it on their live blog.10.06am: Rupert Murdoch has started giving evidence again to Leveson. Josh Halliday and John Plunkett are covering it on their live blog.
Lord Justice Leveson started by saying that he was tightening up the rules about witness statements and exhibits. This seemed to be a rebuke to the Labour MP Chris Byrant, who used a point of order in the Commons yesterday to accuse David Cameron of misleading MPs about his meetings with Rupert Murdoch. As a partipant in the inquiry, Byrant has access to witness statements before they are made public, and he was referring to information that he thought had already been released. Lord Justice Leveson started by saying that he was tightening up the rules about witness statements and exhibits. This seemed to be a rebuke to the Labour MP Chris Bryant, who used a point of order in the Commons yesterday to accuse David Cameron of misleading MPs about his meetings with Rupert Murdoch. As a partipant in the inquiry, Byrant has access to witness statements before they are made public, and he was referring to information that he thought had already been released.
9.59am: Yesterday there were not many Liberal Democrats speaking up for Jeremy Hunt in the Commons. But this morning Don Foster, the Lib Dem backbencher, has spoken up for the culture secretary. It's not the most ringing endorsement I've ever heard, but it is positive. Here's what Foster said on Radio 5 Live. I've taken the quote from PoliticsHome.9.59am: Yesterday there were not many Liberal Democrats speaking up for Jeremy Hunt in the Commons. But this morning Don Foster, the Lib Dem backbencher, has spoken up for the culture secretary. It's not the most ringing endorsement I've ever heard, but it is positive. Here's what Foster said on Radio 5 Live. I've taken the quote from PoliticsHome.

What I'm trying to tell you is very simple. I do not know, and no evidence has yet been provided that Jeremy Hunt himself, the person who made the decision, actually did anything wrong. He tried his very best to be as impartial as he could, and ultimately he took a decision that anybody who's accusing him of bias would find difficult to explain, how did he make a decision that was not the one News Corporation wanted him to make, despite him having been accused as a cheerleader for the Murdochs.

What I'm trying to tell you is very simple. I do not know, and no evidence has yet been provided that Jeremy Hunt himself, the person who made the decision, actually did anything wrong. He tried his very best to be as impartial as he could, and ultimately he took a decision that anybody who's accusing him of bias would find difficult to explain, how did he make a decision that was not the one News Corporation wanted him to make, despite him having been accused as a cheerleader for the Murdochs.
8.56am: As well as giving an interview to the Today programme, Ed Miliband has also been on Radio 5 Live. Here's a summary of the main points from both interviews. I've taken some of the quotes from the Press Association and PoliticsHome.8.56am: As well as giving an interview to the Today programme, Ed Miliband has also been on Radio 5 Live. Here's a summary of the main points from both interviews. I've taken some of the quotes from the Press Association and PoliticsHome.
• Miliband said it was "incredible" that Jeremy Hunt had not already resigned because it was impossible to believe that his adviser passed all the information that he did to News Corporation without Hunt's knowledge.• Miliband said it was "incredible" that Jeremy Hunt had not already resigned because it was impossible to believe that his adviser passed all the information that he did to News Corporation without Hunt's knowledge.
It beggars belief that he's still in his job, because to believe that he should stay you have to believe that his special adviser was, if you like, a lone wolf, who spent six months in collusion with News Corporation, passing information that was to be announced in the House of Commons, providing information about discussions with the regulator, providing information about what opposing parties were saying. I think it's incredible that Jeremy Hunt hasn't resigned and that David Cameron has kept him in his job.It beggars belief that he's still in his job, because to believe that he should stay you have to believe that his special adviser was, if you like, a lone wolf, who spent six months in collusion with News Corporation, passing information that was to be announced in the House of Commons, providing information about discussions with the regulator, providing information about what opposing parties were saying. I think it's incredible that Jeremy Hunt hasn't resigned and that David Cameron has kept him in his job.
He also said that Hunt was now acting as a "firewall" for Cameron.He also said that Hunt was now acting as a "firewall" for Cameron.
• Miliband rejected claims that Labour were just as bad as this government in allowing themselves to become too close to Rupert Murdoch. "There is a world of difference between being too close to the Murdochs and the pattern of behaviour we've seen revealed in the past few days," Miliband said. But he did accept that that Labour's relationship with the Murdochs should have been different. "In retrospect we all should have been more wary about our relationships with them," he said.

• He claimed that he believed strongly in decentralisation.
He insisted that he did not believe the "centralised state" was the solution to all social problems.
• Miliband rejected claims that Labour were just as bad as this government in allowing themselves to become too close to Rupert Murdoch. "There is a world of difference between being too close to the Murdochs and the pattern of behaviour we've seen revealed in the past few days," Miliband said. But he did accept that that Labour's relationship with the Murdochs should have been different. "In retrospect we all should have been more wary about our relationships with them," he said.

• He claimed that he believed strongly in decentralisation.
He insisted that he did not believe the "centralised state" was the solution to all social problems.
One of the issues in Britain today is that people aren't in love with the private sector, some parts of the private sector, but they certainly aren't in love with the state either. As a constituency MP, what do people come and talk to me about? They come and talk to me about their problems with state agencies and state bureaucracies. I'm not somebody who thinks that the centralised state has all the answers.One of the issues in Britain today is that people aren't in love with the private sector, some parts of the private sector, but they certainly aren't in love with the state either. As a constituency MP, what do people come and talk to me about? They come and talk to me about their problems with state agencies and state bureaucracies. I'm not somebody who thinks that the centralised state has all the answers.
By decentralisation, Milband seemed to be talking about devolving power from central government to local state providers, rather than from the state to the private sector, because he cited education as an example.

• He said Labour wanted to give headteachers more power.
By decentralisation, Milband seemed to be talking about devolving power from central government to local state providers, rather than from the state to the private sector, because he cited education as an example.

• He said Labour wanted to give headteachers more power.

As we think about our education policy, let's think about what more powers can be devolved to headteachers ... We shouldn't be the people who say let's hoard power in the centre. We should be the people who say, if there are good heateachers, they should have more power, not less. Or indeeed all headteachers. Let's devolve more power down to headteachers.

As we think about our education policy, let's think about what more powers can be devolved to headteachers ... We shouldn't be the people who say let's hoard power in the centre. We should be the people who say, if there are good heateachers, they should have more power, not less. Or indeeed all headteachers. Let's devolve more power down to headteachers.
• He rejected the idea of introducing regional pay in the public sector.• He rejected the idea of introducing regional pay in the public sector.
The lessons of regional pay as I have seen them are that it doesn't particularly work. In a way it's an acceptance of the north/south divide. You are basically saying to people, if you don't live in the south of England, you are going to get much lower living standards and much lower pay.The lessons of regional pay as I have seen them are that it doesn't particularly work. In a way it's an acceptance of the north/south divide. You are basically saying to people, if you don't live in the south of England, you are going to get much lower living standards and much lower pay.


• He said that he wanted Labour to address "intergenerational equality".
This came up when he was asked about François Hollande, the Socialist candidate in the French presidential election. Miliband said he did not support Hollande's plan for a 75% top rate of tax, but that he hoped that he would win and that he supported what he was saying about intergenerational equality.


• He said that he wanted Labour to address "intergenerational equality".
This came up when he was asked about François Hollande, the Socialist candidate in the French presidential election. Miliband said he did not support Hollande's plan for a 75% top rate of tax, but that he hoped that he would win and that he supported what he was saying about intergenerational equality.

One thing he is talking about is a question of intergenerational equality. I think that is a big issue for our country going forward. If I talk to young people, they feel their lives - and I'm not just talking about this government but more generally - they can't find a job, their tuition fees have trebled, they can't get a house. It is going to be a big issue.

One thing he is talking about is a question of intergenerational equality. I think that is a big issue for our country going forward. If I talk to young people, they feel their lives - and I'm not just talking about this government but more generally - they can't find a job, their tuition fees have trebled, they can't get a house. It is going to be a big issue.
• He said Labour had to show voters it was willing to take tough decisions.• He said Labour had to show voters it was willing to take tough decisions.
Why has the left been losing elections around the world? Partly because, I think, if you want tough decisions to be made, some people will think it's only the right, rightwing governments that can make that. I say that's not the case.Why has the left been losing elections around the world? Partly because, I think, if you want tough decisions to be made, some people will think it's only the right, rightwing governments that can make that. I say that's not the case.
• He said that he disagreed with the Tories on how to create wealth. • He said that he disagreed with the Tories on how to create wealth.
They believe that the way an economy succeeds ... you cut taxes at the top, and then wealth can trickle down. I don't believe that. I think it is the hardworking people of this country that create the wealth. We should be rewarding them.They believe that the way an economy succeeds ... you cut taxes at the top, and then wealth can trickle down. I don't believe that. I think it is the hardworking people of this country that create the wealth. We should be rewarding them.
(Miliband was using an argument that Barack Obama developed at length in a particularly good speech in the US earlier this month.)(Miliband was using an argument that Barack Obama developed at length in a particularly good speech in the US earlier this month.)
• He refused to put a figure on his preferred size of the state as a proportion of GDP. When Evan Davis asked him if he was comfortable with 45%, he dodged the question. But he also said that getting the economy to grow would automatically lead to state spending as a share of GDP coming down.• He refused to put a figure on his preferred size of the state as a proportion of GDP. When Evan Davis asked him if he was comfortable with 45%, he dodged the question. But he also said that getting the economy to grow would automatically lead to state spending as a share of GDP coming down.
8.45am: Here's some Twitter reaction to Ed Miliband's Today interview.8.45am: Here's some Twitter reaction to Ed Miliband's Today interview.
From ConservativeHome's Tim MontgomerieFrom ConservativeHome's Tim Montgomerie
Clear from that Ed Miliband interview that he's a centraliser -- opposing regionalised pay and Gove's schools reformsClear from that Ed Miliband interview that he's a centraliser -- opposing regionalised pay and Gove's schools reforms
— Tim Montgomerie (@TimMontgomerie) April 26, 2012— Tim Montgomerie (@TimMontgomerie) April 26, 2012
From the Telegraph's Iain MartinFrom the Telegraph's Iain Martin
V good @EvanHD interview with ED M on @BBCr4today - beyond the fuss of the moment, very revealing. At root Ed really loves the big stateV good @EvanHD interview with ED M on @BBCr4today - beyond the fuss of the moment, very revealing. At root Ed really loves the big state
— Iain Martin (@iainmartin1) April 26, 2012— Iain Martin (@iainmartin1) April 26, 2012
From Michael Dugher, the shadow Cabinet Office ministerFrom Michael Dugher, the shadow Cabinet Office minister
@iainmartin1 Ed pro-academies but wants to see a stronger local role and give more powers to heads. Sounds like your cup of tea, Iain.@iainmartin1 Ed pro-academies but wants to see a stronger local role and give more powers to heads. Sounds like your cup of tea, Iain.
— Michael Dugher (@MichaelDugherMP) April 26, 2012— Michael Dugher (@MichaelDugherMP) April 26, 2012
From Stewart Wood, a shadow minister and one of Miliband's key policy advisersFrom Stewart Wood, a shadow minister and one of Miliband's key policy advisers
.@TimMontgomerie Hi Tim: there are many reasons to oppose regionalised pay & question free schools other than an instinct for centralisation.@TimMontgomerie Hi Tim: there are many reasons to oppose regionalised pay & question free schools other than an instinct for centralisation
— Stewart Wood (@StewartWood) April 26, 2012— Stewart Wood (@StewartWood) April 26, 2012
From the Daily Mail's James ChapmanFrom the Daily Mail's James Chapman
Ed Miliband right to hit on intergenerational unfairness as a big issue. But logically means he must support granny tax? #todayEd Miliband right to hit on intergenerational unfairness as a big issue. But logically means he must support granny tax? #today
— James Chapman (Mail) (@jameschappers) April 26, 2012— James Chapman (Mail) (@jameschappers) April 26, 2012
From the Guardian's Polly CurtisFrom the Guardian's Polly Curtis
Miliband: "I do believe" "I do say" "I do think" "let me speak to that point". It's not important but it's not how people speak... #r4todayMiliband: "I do believe" "I do say" "I do think" "let me speak to that point". It's not important but it's not how people speak... #r4today
— polly curtis (@pollycurtis) April 26, 2012— polly curtis (@pollycurtis) April 26, 2012
From the Financial Times's Jim PickardFrom the Financial Times's Jim Pickard
Ed miliband should drop the irritating phrase, "I say to you"...Ed miliband should drop the irritating phrase, "I say to you"...
— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) April 26, 2012— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) April 26, 2012
8.28am: I'm not sure that was particularly revealing. I like the way Evan Davis adops a "let's explore some big issues" approach to interviewing instead of the "admit you're useless" approach or the crude headline-creating approach, but it only works if the interviewee is willing to open up, and today Miliband was not being particuarly candid.8.28am: I'm not sure that was particularly revealing. I like the way Evan Davis adops a "let's explore some big issues" approach to interviewing instead of the "admit you're useless" approach or the crude headline-creating approach, but it only works if the interviewee is willing to open up, and today Miliband was not being particuarly candid.
Still, Miliband was clear on regional pay, he was interesting on the need for the left to show that it can take tough decisions, he intriguingly said that he agreed with François Hollande on inter-generational justice and he gave us some fresh quotes on Jeremy Hunt. He also said something about wanting to devolve more power to headteachers which sounded new to me. I'll post a summary soon.Still, Miliband was clear on regional pay, he was interesting on the need for the left to show that it can take tough decisions, he intriguingly said that he agreed with François Hollande on inter-generational justice and he gave us some fresh quotes on Jeremy Hunt. He also said something about wanting to devolve more power to headteachers which sounded new to me. I'll post a summary soon.
8.23am: They turn to health.8.23am: They turn to health.
Q: Do you object to private health insurance?Q: Do you object to private health insurance?
Miliband says he is not going to stop Davis taking out private health insurance.Miliband says he is not going to stop Davis taking out private health insurance.
But he would like to show people that the NHS can be better.But he would like to show people that the NHS can be better.
Q: What do you think of François Hollande in France?Q: What do you think of François Hollande in France?
Miliband says he is not planning a 75% top rate of tax. But Hollande is saying austerity alone will not achieve what France needs. Miliband says he agrees with that.Miliband says he is not planning a 75% top rate of tax. But Hollande is saying austerity alone will not achieve what France needs. Miliband says he agrees with that.
The last Labour government did not do enough to change the economy.The last Labour government did not do enough to change the economy.
Q: Are you hoping Hollande wins?Q: Are you hoping Hollande wins?
Miliband says Hollande represents Labour's sister party, so he's wishing him luck.Miliband says Hollande represents Labour's sister party, so he's wishing him luck.
Hollande is also interested in inter-generational equality. That's a big issue.Hollande is also interested in inter-generational equality. That's a big issue.
8.20am: Davis turns to decentralisation.8.20am: Davis turns to decentralisation.
Q: Would you support regional pay?Q: Would you support regional pay?
Miliband says the evidence suggests it does not work. Regional pay would cement a north/south divide.Miliband says the evidence suggests it does not work. Regional pay would cement a north/south divide.
On the wider point, he says he is not someone who believes the state has all the answers. Michael Gove is a centralising education secretary, he says. Miliband says he does not agree. He would like to devolve more power to headteachers.On the wider point, he says he is not someone who believes the state has all the answers. Michael Gove is a centralising education secretary, he says. Miliband says he does not agree. He would like to devolve more power to headteachers.
Q: That's the same as Gove, isn't it?Q: That's the same as Gove, isn't it?
No, says Miliband. Gove does not see a role for local authorities. Miliband says he does see a role for them.No, says Miliband. Gove does not see a role for local authorities. Miliband says he does see a role for them.
Miliband also says Gove's policies are for the few, not the many. Davis cuts him off, because he does not just want to hear him slagging off the government.Miliband also says Gove's policies are for the few, not the many. Davis cuts him off, because he does not just want to hear him slagging off the government.
Q: But your answer on regional pay suggests you will revert to a centralising model.Q: But your answer on regional pay suggests you will revert to a centralising model.
Miliband says regional pay would not work.Miliband says regional pay would not work.
8.14am: Davis moves on to other issues.

Q: How big should government spending be as a proportion of national income? Roughly?
8.14am: Davis moves on to other issues.

Q: How big should government spending be as a proportion of national income? Roughly?
Miliband says the government promised prosperity. The economy works well for those at the top. But it is not delivering for the majority who are "really squeezed". We are in a double-dip recession and we need to change the way the economy works.Miliband says the government promised prosperity. The economy works well for those at the top. But it is not delivering for the majority who are "really squeezed". We are in a double-dip recession and we need to change the way the economy works.
Labour is showing how it would stand up to vested interests.Labour is showing how it would stand up to vested interests.
Miliband says he has taken a strong stand on executive pay.Miliband says he has taken a strong stand on executive pay.
Q: Would you be comfortable with a state representing 45% of national income? It's at about that figure at the moment.Q: Would you be comfortable with a state representing 45% of national income? It's at about that figure at the moment.
Miliband says the proportion of national income that the state takes relates to the extent to which your economy is growing. So "let's not pluck out of the air figures for this percentage or that". Labour has to show it is a party for tough times as well as easy times. The left has been losing elections around the world because people think parties of the right are the only ones that can take tough decisions in hard times. But Miliband says he does not agree.

Q: But your opponents would say this. Can you flesh out what is different about you?
Miliband says the proportion of national income that the state takes relates to the extent to which your economy is growing. So "let's not pluck out of the air figures for this percentage or that". Labour has to show it is a party for tough times as well as easy times. The left has been losing elections around the world because people think parties of the right are the only ones that can take tough decisions in hard times. But Miliband says he does not agree.

Q: But your opponents would say this. Can you flesh out what is different about you?
Miliband says Labour would not have cut the 50p top rate of tax.Miliband says Labour would not have cut the 50p top rate of tax.
Miliband says this is not just a technocratic argument about whether the 50p rate raises money. The right believe that if you cut taxes, wealth will trickle down. Miliband says he thinks that you have to allow those in the middle to create wealth.Miliband says this is not just a technocratic argument about whether the 50p rate raises money. The right believe that if you cut taxes, wealth will trickle down. Miliband says he thinks that you have to allow those in the middle to create wealth.
8.10am: Evan Davis is interviewing Ed Miliband. He's starting now.

Q: Lord Fowler said yesterday on the programme that politicians should not be invovled in media ownership decisions. Do you agree?
8.10am: Evan Davis is interviewing Ed Miliband. He's starting now.

Q: Lord Fowler said yesterday on the programme that politicians should not be invovled in media ownership decisions. Do you agree?
No, says Miliband. There is a public interest that politicians can represent. When Alistair Darling was in government, he had to take decisions about BSkyB and ITV. It is "incredible" that Jeremy Hunt has not resigned.No, says Miliband. There is a public interest that politicians can represent. When Alistair Darling was in government, he had to take decisions about BSkyB and ITV. It is "incredible" that Jeremy Hunt has not resigned.
Q: Labour also did favours for the Murdochs. The public won't be satisfied until there is complete separation.Q: Labour also did favours for the Murdochs. The public won't be satisfied until there is complete separation.
Miliband says Labour got too close to the Murdochs. But there is a world of difference between that, and the pattern of behaviour exposed at Leveson.Miliband says Labour got too close to the Murdochs. But there is a world of difference between that, and the pattern of behaviour exposed at Leveson.
Politicians have to make decisions about all kinds of issues. They should stand up to vested interest. That is what Labour is doing under his leadership, Miliband says.Politicians have to make decisions about all kinds of issues. They should stand up to vested interest. That is what Labour is doing under his leadership, Miliband says.
Why is Hunt still in his job, Miliband asks. Because David Cameron has questions to answer.Why is Hunt still in his job, Miliband asks. Because David Cameron has questions to answer.
This matters, because politicians should govern in the national interest.This matters, because politicians should govern in the national interest.
8.00am: Rupert Murdoch is back at the Leveson inquiry this morning. There's some excellent coverage of his appearance yesterday in the Guardian, but do start with this piece by Harold Evans.8.00am: Rupert Murdoch is back at the Leveson inquiry this morning. There's some excellent coverage of his appearance yesterday in the Guardian, but do start with this piece by Harold Evans.
Rupert Murdoch has apparently lost a great deal of his power of memory, but nature has compensated by endowing him with a vivid imagination. He can surely deploy his new gift in the service of Fox movies. There is the great scene he pitched to Lord Justice Leveson on Wednesday morning where the editor of the Times enters left, closes the door behind him and begs: "Look, tell me what you want to say, what do you want me to say, and it need not leave this room and I'll say it." And our hero proprietor, so famously fastidious about such matters, has to tell Uriah Heep: "That is not my job."Rupert Murdoch has apparently lost a great deal of his power of memory, but nature has compensated by endowing him with a vivid imagination. He can surely deploy his new gift in the service of Fox movies. There is the great scene he pitched to Lord Justice Leveson on Wednesday morning where the editor of the Times enters left, closes the door behind him and begs: "Look, tell me what you want to say, what do you want me to say, and it need not leave this room and I'll say it." And our hero proprietor, so famously fastidious about such matters, has to tell Uriah Heep: "That is not my job."
And thus, children, was how Mr KR Murdoch honoured the promises of editorial independence that enabled him to avoid the Monopolies and Mergers Commission over his bid for Times Newspapers in 1981. As the editor in question, I am not able to compete with Murdoch in fabrication – he has had a lifetime of experience – but I do happen to have retained my memory of the year editing the Times, made notes, kept documents and even had the effrontery to write a whole bestselling book about it in 1983, called Good Times, Bad Times.And thus, children, was how Mr KR Murdoch honoured the promises of editorial independence that enabled him to avoid the Monopolies and Mergers Commission over his bid for Times Newspapers in 1981. As the editor in question, I am not able to compete with Murdoch in fabrication – he has had a lifetime of experience – but I do happen to have retained my memory of the year editing the Times, made notes, kept documents and even had the effrontery to write a whole bestselling book about it in 1983, called Good Times, Bad Times.

We'll be covering today's hearing on a separate live blog, but I'll pick up some of the political reaction here.

We'll be covering today's hearing on a separate live blog, but I'll pick up some of the political reaction here.
First, though, we've got Ed Miliband being interviewed on the Today programme at 8.10am. After that, here's the agenda for the day.First, though, we've got Ed Miliband being interviewed on the Today programme at 8.10am. After that, here's the agenda for the day.
8.30am: David Cameron speaks at an international clean energy conference.

10am:
Rupert Murdoch resumes giving evidence to the Leveson inquiry.
8.30am: David Cameron speaks at an international clean energy conference.

10am:
Rupert Murdoch resumes giving evidence to the Leveson inquiry.
10am: Bakers are marching to Downing Street to protest about the "pasty tax".10am: Bakers are marching to Downing Street to protest about the "pasty tax".
10.15am: Jonathan Stephens, permanent secretary at the Department for Culture, gives evidence to public accounts committee. Labour MPs want to ask him about Jeremy Hunt and News Corporation.

10.15am:
Nigel Farage launches Ukip's campaign for the local elections.
10.15am: Jonathan Stephens, permanent secretary at the Department for Culture, gives evidence to public accounts committee. Labour MPs want to ask him about Jeremy Hunt and News Corporation.

10.15am:
Nigel Farage launches Ukip's campaign for the local elections.
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