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3.18pm: Cameron says it would be "overbureaucratic" to make a note of every time a politician met an editor.
3.17pm: The Guardian's Nicholas Watt has just tweeted:
At last. PM finds work for Sir Alex Allan to advise on future min handling of quasi judicial role. Busy job so no good for @patrickwintour
— Nicholas Watt (@nicholaswatt) June 14, 2012
3.04pm: Cameron says he believes there should be training for ministers and special advisers given quasi-judicial authority for business decisions.
Special advisers are now told that they work for the government, not a minister, Cameron says.
3.02pm: Cameron says the current press self-regulatory structure "hasn't really delivered" and that the quasi-judicial procedures need to be improved, along with the role of special advisers.
3.02pm: Cameron is back on to safe ground as he is asked to outline his thoughts on transparency.
2.59pm: The inquiry turns to lessons for politicians from the phone-hacking scandal.
Jay asks Cameron if he agrees that the events have been "liberating" for politicians because Murdoch now has less power.
"I think I'd put it in a slightly different way," says Cameron. He adds: "The debate of how we need to regulate the press, including News International and all those titles, is a debate that is now properly being had."
2.58pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Cameron's bacon has prob been saved by Treasury Solicitor over giving Hunt resp for bid by saying even if he'd seen Nov memo wd have said OK
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
2.57pm: Jay asks if Cameron was keen to derail the BSkyB bid in July 2011, as he feared losing a Commons vote on the issue following mounting pressure over phone hacking.
Cameron says he would not quite put it like that. "There was a broader issue about the views of the House of the Commons, the views of the country and the need to reflect those," he adds.
Cameron said at the time that if he ran News Corp he would be more concerned with "sorting out the company" rather than a business transaction.
2.56pm: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Treasury Solicitor says, in retrospect, that Hunt's pro-Murdoch Cameron memo did not shown any evidence of bias ruling himself unfit
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
and
Cameron winning these exchanges over decision to appoint Hunt. His best period so far.
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
2.55pm: Cameron repeats his belief that Hunt dealt with the bid properly and received legal advice "at every juncture" when he was given quasi-judicial oversight.
2.53pm: For reference, here is Paul Owen's timeline of what happened on 21 December 2010, the day when Hunt replaced Cable as minister with responsibility for overseeing the BSkB bid.
2.51pm: Cameron says:
Yes, we had to make the decision relatively rapidly but it was not some rushed, botched, political decision.
"If anyone had told me that Jeremy Hunt couldn't do the job, I wouldn't have given him the job," he adds.
2.50pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
PM says meeting about moving bid to Hunt tk 2 hours. But Osborne txted Hunt 58mins aftr start of meetings sying "hope you like our solution"
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
and
Cameron effectively admitting Hunt was told he was deciding BSyB bid (4.58pm) before legal advice was taken on whether he cd be impartial
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
2.50pm: Jay suggests that legal advice received over Hunt's comments was "on the hoof" because the lawyer was on annual leave at the time.
2.46pm: Jay suggests that legal advice was sought after the switch was made from Cable to Hunt.
Cameron says the solution was suggested, which he thought attractive, then there "was a legal view expressed before the decision".
2.46pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Cam has got away w sleight of hand on Hunt memo claiming it said no more than public statements.Here's reminder bit.ly/KwfRlH
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
2.44pm: Jay asks why the decision to switch responsibility for the BSkyB bid from Cable to Hunt was made so quickly.
Cameron answers that it was a "major problem" for the government and that in the 24-hour news environment "you cannot just spend hours or half-days" deciding what action to take.
"I don't think it was particularly rushed – I think we had to make a decision fairly rapidly," he adds.
2.42pm: Cameron is asked about 21 December 2010, when Cable's comments about Rupert Murdoch were made public.
"It was quite an important moment, because these were important and significant moments," he says.
Jeremy Heywood first suggested to transfer the BSkyB bid authority to Hunt.
"This seemed to me a relatively neat and straightforward solution," Cameron says.
2.41pm: Jay asks why Downing Street repeatedly declined to confirm the 23 December meeting.

Cameron says "before we became totally transparent" the Downing Street press office did not routinely give details of private engagements.
2.37pm: In his witness statement, Cameron says he is confident he had no "inappropriate conversations" with James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks in November or December 2010.2.37pm: In his witness statement, Cameron says he is confident he had no "inappropriate conversations" with James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks in November or December 2010.
Jay tells him to talk about the conversations, taking away the word "inappropriate".Jay tells him to talk about the conversations, taking away the word "inappropriate".
Cameron says: "I can't remember every conversation I have ever had, but I am clear about this one conversation I had with James Murdoch on 23 December 2010."Cameron says: "I can't remember every conversation I have ever had, but I am clear about this one conversation I had with James Murdoch on 23 December 2010."
The gist of the conversation was that Cable was wrong to make the comments about Rupert Murdoch, as recorded by the Daily Telegraph.The gist of the conversation was that Cable was wrong to make the comments about Rupert Murdoch, as recorded by the Daily Telegraph.
2.36pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:2.36pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Problem fr Cameron: he says Hunt Nov memo was sent to him in red box, so No 10 officials would have been aware of it. Why didn't they raise?Problem fr Cameron: he says Hunt Nov memo was sent to him in red box, so No 10 officials would have been aware of it. Why didn't they raise?
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
2.34pm: Jay says Hunt in the memo is supporting the bid on policy grounds.2.34pm: Jay says Hunt in the memo is supporting the bid on policy grounds.
Cameron replies that Hunt was reflecting the views of BSkyB. "The note is there for everybody to see. He's expressing his concern," he adds.Cameron replies that Hunt was reflecting the views of BSkyB. "The note is there for everybody to see. He's expressing his concern," he adds.
He half-denies knowing what Hunt's private views were on the bid.He half-denies knowing what Hunt's private views were on the bid.
I don't know that I did know [what his views were]. It was not high up on my list of issues.I don't know that I did know [what his views were]. It was not high up on my list of issues.
As to his own role, Cameron says:
I recused myself from the decision altogether, I even said I didn't want to know when particular decisions were going to be made.
2.31pm: Asked about Hunt being handed responsibility for News Corp's BSkyB bid, Cameron says:2.31pm: Asked about Hunt being handed responsibility for News Corp's BSkyB bid, Cameron says:
I accept there is controversy. But the backing of two permanent secretaries and a lawyer is quite a strong state of affairs.I accept there is controversy. But the backing of two permanent secretaries and a lawyer is quite a strong state of affairs.
2.30pm: Cameron says he would have raised the memo with government lawyers on 21 December 2010 – the day Hunt was given authority for the bid – if he had knowledge of it.2.30pm: Cameron says he would have raised the memo with government lawyers on 21 December 2010 – the day Hunt was given authority for the bid – if he had knowledge of it.
"My contention is that what's in the private note is not really different to what he said publicly," he adds."My contention is that what's in the private note is not really different to what he said publicly," he adds.
2.27pm: Cameron says he does not recall the existence of Hunt's 19 November 2010 memo in support of the BSkyB bid.2.27pm: Cameron says he does not recall the existence of Hunt's 19 November 2010 memo in support of the BSkyB bid.
In the draft, Hunt wrote:In the draft, Hunt wrote:
James Murdoch is pretty furious at Vince's referral to Ofcom. He doesn't think he will get a fair hearing from Ofcom. I am privately concerned about this because News Corp are very litigious and we could end up in the wrong place in terms of media policy. Essentially what James Murdoch wants to do is to repeat what his father did with the move to Wapping and create the world's first multiplatform media operator available from paper to web to TV to iPhone to iPad. Isn't this what all media companies have to do ultimately? And if so we must be very careful that any attempt to block it is done on plurality grounds and not as a result of lobbying by competitors.James Murdoch is pretty furious at Vince's referral to Ofcom. He doesn't think he will get a fair hearing from Ofcom. I am privately concerned about this because News Corp are very litigious and we could end up in the wrong place in terms of media policy. Essentially what James Murdoch wants to do is to repeat what his father did with the move to Wapping and create the world's first multiplatform media operator available from paper to web to TV to iPhone to iPad. Isn't this what all media companies have to do ultimately? And if so we must be very careful that any attempt to block it is done on plurality grounds and not as a result of lobbying by competitors.
The UK has the chance to lead the way on this as we did in the 80s with the Wapping move but if we block it our media sector will suffer for years. In the end I am sure sensible controls can be put into any merger to ensure there is plurality but I think it would be totally wrong to cave into the Mark Thompson/Channel 4/Guardian line that this represents a substantial change of control given that we all know Sky is controlled by News Corp now anyway.The UK has the chance to lead the way on this as we did in the 80s with the Wapping move but if we block it our media sector will suffer for years. In the end I am sure sensible controls can be put into any merger to ensure there is plurality but I think it would be totally wrong to cave into the Mark Thompson/Channel 4/Guardian line that this represents a substantial change of control given that we all know Sky is controlled by News Corp now anyway.
What next? Ofcom will issue their report saying whether it needs to go to the Competition Commission by 31 December. It would be totally wrong for the government to get involved in a competition issue which has to be decided at arm's length. However I do think you, I, Vince and the DPM [deputy prime minister] should meet to discuss the policy issues that are thrown up as a result.What next? Ofcom will issue their report saying whether it needs to go to the Competition Commission by 31 December. It would be totally wrong for the government to get involved in a competition issue which has to be decided at arm's length. However I do think you, I, Vince and the DPM [deputy prime minister] should meet to discuss the policy issues that are thrown up as a result.
2.26pm: Cameron says he does not recall any knowledge of the BSkyB bid before it was publicly announced.2.26pm: Cameron says he does not recall any knowledge of the BSkyB bid before it was publicly announced.
Jeremy Hunt sent Cameron four notes on the BSkyB bid, the inquiry hears.Jeremy Hunt sent Cameron four notes on the BSkyB bid, the inquiry hears.
2.25pm: Cameron says he discussed the merger with the chancellor George Osborne on the day Vince Cable was stripped of responsibility for the role, but cannot recall other conversations. However, they talk about lots of things so it is possible, he adds.2.25pm: Cameron says he discussed the merger with the chancellor George Osborne on the day Vince Cable was stripped of responsibility for the role, but cannot recall other conversations. However, they talk about lots of things so it is possible, he adds.
2.23pm: Cameron is asked about the BSkyB bid.2.23pm: Cameron is asked about the BSkyB bid.
"I don't think you should stand in the way of coporate moves unless there's a public interest against it," he says."I don't think you should stand in the way of coporate moves unless there's a public interest against it," he says.
He acknowledges that the merger was a "political hot potato" and says "half of the Tory press was against it".He acknowledges that the merger was a "political hot potato" and says "half of the Tory press was against it".
2.18pm: Cameron says he does not recall talking to Rebekah Brooks about phone hacking in December 2010.2.18pm: Cameron says he does not recall talking to Rebekah Brooks about phone hacking in December 2010.
It took the "cataclysmic revelations" of the Guardian's Milly Dowler story in July 2011 for the "whole thing to be opened up," he addsIt took the "cataclysmic revelations" of the Guardian's Milly Dowler story in July 2011 for the "whole thing to be opened up," he adds
2.17pm: Cameron says he had several conversations with Coulson about his resignation.2.17pm: Cameron says he had several conversations with Coulson about his resignation.
"Really this was the start of the process where Andy Coulson was becoming clear ... that he was finding his job impossible to do," Cameron says. "Obviously I had a number of conversations with him about his departure.""Really this was the start of the process where Andy Coulson was becoming clear ... that he was finding his job impossible to do," Cameron says. "Obviously I had a number of conversations with him about his departure."
2.16pm: No 10 chief of staff Ed Llewellyn declined a request from the Met police about a briefing for the prime minister on the New York Times story, Cameron says.2.16pm: No 10 chief of staff Ed Llewellyn declined a request from the Met police about a briefing for the prime minister on the New York Times story, Cameron says.
He adds that it would have been "inappropriate" to accept that briefing.He adds that it would have been "inappropriate" to accept that briefing.
2.15pm: Cameron is asked about the New York Times investigation into phone hacking, published on 1 September 2010.
"They key point is that Andy Coulson directly denied ... this accusation, so that I think is pretty clear," he says.		2.15pm: Cameron is asked about the New York Times investigation into phone hacking, published on 1 September 2010.
"They key point is that Andy Coulson directly denied ... this accusation, so that I think is pretty clear," he says.
Cameron is asked by Jay whether he sought fresh assurances from Coulson. He says he does not recall the conversations that took place.Cameron is asked by Jay whether he sought fresh assurances from Coulson. He says he does not recall the conversations that took place.
2.11pm: Jay turns to a letter from the Cabinet Office about the post of communications director and vetting.2.11pm: Jay turns to a letter from the Cabinet Office about the post of communications director and vetting.
It confirms that six No 10 press secretaries before Coulson were granted developed vetting clearance within seven months.It confirms that six No 10 press secretaries before Coulson were granted developed vetting clearance within seven months.
Cabinet secretary Jeremy Heywood made the decision that Coulson need not be subject to developed vetting at first as he fell within the special adviser category, Cameron says.Cabinet secretary Jeremy Heywood made the decision that Coulson need not be subject to developed vetting at first as he fell within the special adviser category, Cameron says.
"This is a complete red herring," he remarks of the row."This is a complete red herring," he remarks of the row.
2.09pm: Cameron confirms that Nick Clegg expressed some concerns about Coulson in May 2010 after the coalition was formed.2.09pm: Cameron confirms that Nick Clegg expressed some concerns about Coulson in May 2010 after the coalition was formed.
"One or two" Tories also expressed concern to him, he says: "Some people did have concerns, I can't remember exactly who and when.""One or two" Tories also expressed concern to him, he says: "Some people did have concerns, I can't remember exactly who and when."
Cameron cannot recall any conversations with Rupert Murdoch about hiring Coulson.Cameron cannot recall any conversations with Rupert Murdoch about hiring Coulson.
2.06pm: The inquiry resumes.2.06pm: The inquiry resumes.
Cameron has spoken to his wife, Samantha, who, having consulted her diary, confirms that the pair saw Brooks roughly "once every six weeks" between 2008 and 2010.Cameron has spoken to his wife, Samantha, who, having consulted her diary, confirms that the pair saw Brooks roughly "once every six weeks" between 2008 and 2010.
"The great value of wives, prime minister," says Lord Justice Leveson."The great value of wives, prime minister," says Lord Justice Leveson.
2.05pm: The Guardian's Jonathan Freedland has written this analysis of Brooks's text to Cameron:2.05pm: The Guardian's Jonathan Freedland has written this analysis of Brooks's text to Cameron:
But seriously I do understand the issue with the Times. Let's discuss over country supper soon. On the party it was because I had asked a number of NI [News International] people to Manchester post endorsement and they were disappointed not to see you. But as always Sam was wonderful (and I thought it was OE's [Old Etonians] were charm personfied!) I am so rooting for you tomorrow not just as a proud friend but because professionally we're definitely in this together! Speech of your life? Yes he CamBut seriously I do understand the issue with the Times. Let's discuss over country supper soon. On the party it was because I had asked a number of NI [News International] people to Manchester post endorsement and they were disappointed not to see you. But as always Sam was wonderful (and I thought it was OE's [Old Etonians] were charm personfied!) I am so rooting for you tomorrow not just as a proud friend but because professionally we're definitely in this together! Speech of your life? Yes he Cam
– Text message sent from Brooks to Cameron on 7 October 2009, on the eve of his Tory conference speech– Text message sent from Brooks to Cameron on 7 October 2009, on the eve of his Tory conference speech
Just 87 words, the text from Rebekah Brooks to David Cameron is nevertheless as densely revealing, as packed with human drama, as the finest, most compact poetry – with added cringe value.Just 87 words, the text from Rebekah Brooks to David Cameron is nevertheless as densely revealing, as packed with human drama, as the finest, most compact poetry – with added cringe value.
It plunges straight in, part of an ongoing exchange and a tense one at that. Cameron appears to have conveyed his displeasure over a story in that day's Times, perhaps the one claiming that the Tories planned to pack the Lords with a raft of new appointees (paywall link). But Brooks plainly has issues of her own and has told the Tory leader of her irritation that he didn't turn up at the News International reception at that week's Conservative party conference. Brooks insists she accepts Cameron's apparent apology – though with the passive-aggressive rider that she had gone to great trouble, that people were disappointed by his absence and a little reminder that she had expected better treatment given the Sun's "endorsement" a week earlier.It plunges straight in, part of an ongoing exchange and a tense one at that. Cameron appears to have conveyed his displeasure over a story in that day's Times, perhaps the one claiming that the Tories planned to pack the Lords with a raft of new appointees (paywall link). But Brooks plainly has issues of her own and has told the Tory leader of her irritation that he didn't turn up at the News International reception at that week's Conservative party conference. Brooks insists she accepts Cameron's apparent apology – though with the passive-aggressive rider that she had gone to great trouble, that people were disappointed by his absence and a little reminder that she had expected better treatment given the Sun's "endorsement" a week earlier.
But no matter, all this can be rectified at an imminent "country supper", a phrase that will instantly rank alongside and surely outstrip Francis Maude's "kitchen supper". The phrase is delicious, concisely capturing the entire culture and chumminess of the Chipping Norton set, its elite habits and its remoteness from the way most people are living in austerity Britain. Like Raisa the police horse, it shows just how close Cameron and the Murdoch chief executive were – and what rarefied, monied bubble they both inhabited.But no matter, all this can be rectified at an imminent "country supper", a phrase that will instantly rank alongside and surely outstrip Francis Maude's "kitchen supper". The phrase is delicious, concisely capturing the entire culture and chumminess of the Chipping Norton set, its elite habits and its remoteness from the way most people are living in austerity Britain. Like Raisa the police horse, it shows just how close Cameron and the Murdoch chief executive were – and what rarefied, monied bubble they both inhabited.
Next comes the praise for Samantha Cameron, who had obviously attended the Murdoch bash as a Cameron surrogate. Brooks compliments Sam for her charm – thereby revealing her own much-vaunted possession of the same quality. Many will find this and the lines that follow too blatant in their sycophancy to be charming, but Brooks's success suggests it had long been effective.Next comes the praise for Samantha Cameron, who had obviously attended the Murdoch bash as a Cameron surrogate. Brooks compliments Sam for her charm – thereby revealing her own much-vaunted possession of the same quality. Many will find this and the lines that follow too blatant in their sycophancy to be charming, but Brooks's success suggests it had long been effective.
Readers of Tatler or Horse and Hound may sniff slightly at the language. Is it not a trifle gauche to refer to Old Etonians at all, let alone as OEs? Is not the phrase "country supper" itself a little embarrassing, the sort of thing one certainly has and enjoys but does not refer to so explicitly? And aren't all those exclamation marks a little déclassé?Readers of Tatler or Horse and Hound may sniff slightly at the language. Is it not a trifle gauche to refer to Old Etonians at all, let alone as OEs? Is not the phrase "country supper" itself a little embarrassing, the sort of thing one certainly has and enjoys but does not refer to so explicitly? And aren't all those exclamation marks a little déclassé?
But the killer line is yet to come. Brooks is not just Cameron's "proud friend" but his explicit political ally, even co-conspirator: "professionally we're definitely in this together," she declares with an exclamation mark, surely referencing then shadow chancellor George Osborne's speech the previous day. "We're all in this together," he had said. If Cameron and Brooks were not all in it together before this text was made public, they are now – up to their neck in it, in fact.But the killer line is yet to come. Brooks is not just Cameron's "proud friend" but his explicit political ally, even co-conspirator: "professionally we're definitely in this together," she declares with an exclamation mark, surely referencing then shadow chancellor George Osborne's speech the previous day. "We're all in this together," he had said. If Cameron and Brooks were not all in it together before this text was made public, they are now – up to their neck in it, in fact.
The irony is that that phrase of Osborne's was meant to show off the Tories' fair-mindedness, their spirit of shared sacrifice. But this text from Rebekah Brooks skewers that notion, already dead, once more: it shows Cameron as exceptionally close to the top echelon of a corporate empire, permanently mindful of its concerns. No wonder he squirmed as it was read out.The irony is that that phrase of Osborne's was meant to show off the Tories' fair-mindedness, their spirit of shared sacrifice. But this text from Rebekah Brooks skewers that notion, already dead, once more: it shows Cameron as exceptionally close to the top echelon of a corporate empire, permanently mindful of its concerns. No wonder he squirmed as it was read out.
The closing line, as Brooks sought to pep Cameron up for his leader's speech – "Yes he Cam!" — is telling too. For those very words were the headline on the Sun's coverage of that Cameron speech the next day. Papers always deny they decide headlines on stories in advance, that they fix their view of events before they have happened – but this suggests that in the Brooks-era Sun, that was exactly what happened. At least when it came to doing a favour for a cherished member of her country supper set.The closing line, as Brooks sought to pep Cameron up for his leader's speech – "Yes he Cam!" — is telling too. For those very words were the headline on the Sun's coverage of that Cameron speech the next day. Papers always deny they decide headlines on stories in advance, that they fix their view of events before they have happened – but this suggests that in the Brooks-era Sun, that was exactly what happened. At least when it came to doing a favour for a cherished member of her country supper set.
1.26pm: The Guardian's John Plunkett has sent us the section of Cameron's witness statement dealing with Coulson:1.26pm: The Guardian's John Plunkett has sent us the section of Cameron's witness statement dealing with Coulson:
The responsibility for employing him on the basis of the assurances that he gave is mine. I took the view that because he had given merepeated assurances that he had no knowledge of hacking, he deserved a second chance.The responsibility for employing him on the basis of the assurances that he gave is mine. I took the view that because he had given merepeated assurances that he had no knowledge of hacking, he deserved a second chance.
If anyone had given me any evidence that Andy Coulson knew about or was in any way involved with phone hacking, I would not have employed him … With 20:20 hindsight and all that has followed, I would not have offered him the job and I expect that he would not have taken it … You do not make decisions in hindsight, you make them in the present.If anyone had given me any evidence that Andy Coulson knew about or was in any way involved with phone hacking, I would not have employed him … With 20:20 hindsight and all that has followed, I would not have offered him the job and I expect that he would not have taken it … You do not make decisions in hindsight, you make them in the present.
I was of course aware of the phone-hacking related article the Guardian published in July 2009. The question I asked myself all the way through was, 'Is there new information that Andy Coulson knew about hacking at the News of the World while he was the editor?'I was of course aware of the phone-hacking related article the Guardian published in July 2009. The question I asked myself all the way through was, 'Is there new information that Andy Coulson knew about hacking at the News of the World while he was the editor?'
I made the decision to employ Andy Coulson in good faith because of the assurances he gave me. I did not see any information in those articles that would have led me to change my mind about these assurances.I made the decision to employ Andy Coulson in good faith because of the assurances he gave me. I did not see any information in those articles that would have led me to change my mind about these assurances.
Nevertheless in the light of these stories I asked Andy Coulson to repeat the assurances that he gave me when I first employed him … He repeated those assurances.Nevertheless in the light of these stories I asked Andy Coulson to repeat the assurances that he gave me when I first employed him … He repeated those assurances.
1.21pm: Twitter user Alison B has posted a handy chart of David Cameron's facial colour as he gives evidence to the inquiry:1.21pm: Twitter user Alison B has posted a handy chart of David Cameron's facial colour as he gives evidence to the inquiry:
David Cameron is at #Leveson today. I've done you a handy chart. twitpic.com/9w2w1zDavid Cameron is at #Leveson today. I've done you a handy chart. twitpic.com/9w2w1z
— Alison B (@akbea) June 14, 2012— Alison B (@akbea) June 14, 2012
1.19pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:1.19pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Coulson asked at #Leveson if Cam asked about hacking after May 07: "Not that I can recall." Cam to MPs: "that ws discussed on ongoing basis"Coulson asked at #Leveson if Cam asked about hacking after May 07: "Not that I can recall." Cam to MPs: "that ws discussed on ongoing basis"
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
1.12pm: The Guardian's Tom Clark has pointed out this extract from a Commons debate on 20 July 2011, when Cameron told MPs that he had a "permanent conversation" with Coulson about knowledge of phone hacking:1.12pm: The Guardian's Tom Clark has pointed out this extract from a Commons debate on 20 July 2011, when Cameron told MPs that he had a "permanent conversation" with Coulson about knowledge of phone hacking:
Richard Burden (Birmingham, Northfield) (Lab): In response to my hon. friend the member for Islington South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry), the prime minister said that, if he had been given credible information regarding Andy Coulson, he would have done something about it, so will he now answer the question from my hon. friend the member for West Bromwich East (Mr Watson)? When the prime minister received that letter in October, what did he do?Richard Burden (Birmingham, Northfield) (Lab): In response to my hon. friend the member for Islington South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry), the prime minister said that, if he had been given credible information regarding Andy Coulson, he would have done something about it, so will he now answer the question from my hon. friend the member for West Bromwich East (Mr Watson)? When the prime minister received that letter in October, what did he do?
The prime minister: The answer is that with all the information that came out while Andy Coulson was working at No 10 Downing Street, there was a permanent conversation, if you like. Was this new evidence that he knew about phone hacking? If it was, he would have to go; if it was not, he would not. That is the key point. Let me answer this way. In the end, because there were so many allegations and because he was not able to get on with his job, he left. The second chance I gave him did not work. We can go over this a million times, but in the end the decision to appoint him is mine, for which I have taken full responsibility. His conduct at No 10 Downing Street is not something that is under question, so I think it would be better if we spent our time working out how we are going to clear up the illegality that took place.The prime minister: The answer is that with all the information that came out while Andy Coulson was working at No 10 Downing Street, there was a permanent conversation, if you like. Was this new evidence that he knew about phone hacking? If it was, he would have to go; if it was not, he would not. That is the key point. Let me answer this way. In the end, because there were so many allegations and because he was not able to get on with his job, he left. The second chance I gave him did not work. We can go over this a million times, but in the end the decision to appoint him is mine, for which I have taken full responsibility. His conduct at No 10 Downing Street is not something that is under question, so I think it would be better if we spent our time working out how we are going to clear up the illegality that took place.
1.08pm: Here is a lunchtime summary of David Cameron's evidence so far:

• Rebekah Brooks texted Cameron on eve of his conference speech to say: "professionally we're definitely in this together" and "Yes we Cam!"		1.08pm: Here is a lunchtime summary of David Cameron's evidence so far:

• Rebekah Brooks texted Cameron on eve of his conference speech to say: "professionally we're definitely in this together" and "Yes we Cam!"
• Cameron and Brooks were good friends by 2008.• Cameron and Brooks were good friends by 2008.
• The inquiry ordered News International to release a fresh batch of texts between Brooks and Cameron.• The inquiry ordered News International to release a fresh batch of texts between Brooks and Cameron.
• Cameron confirmed there no independent verification of Andy Coulson's assurances over phone hacking, aside from what was in public domain.• Cameron confirmed there no independent verification of Andy Coulson's assurances over phone hacking, aside from what was in public domain.
• Cameron said he would have sacked Coulson if given evidence of knowledge of phone hacking.• Cameron said he would have sacked Coulson if given evidence of knowledge of phone hacking.
• Cameron denied a "covert or overt" deal with Rupert Murdoch's media empire.• Cameron denied a "covert or overt" deal with Rupert Murdoch's media empire.
• Cameron met Rebekah Brooks 19 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rupert Murdoch 10 times while in opposition, the inquiry heard.• Cameron met Rebekah Brooks 19 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rupert Murdoch 10 times while in opposition, the inquiry heard.
• The inquiry is a "cathartic moment" for press and politicians, Cameron said.• The inquiry is a "cathartic moment" for press and politicians, Cameron said.
• Cameron listed journalists who were close friends, including the Times's Daniel Finkelstein and Sarah Vine, the wife of education secretary Michael Gove.• Cameron listed journalists who were close friends, including the Times's Daniel Finkelstein and Sarah Vine, the wife of education secretary Michael Gove.
• A Sun journalist and a prison officer are among three people arrested by Scotland Yard in investigation into payments to police and public officials.• A Sun journalist and a prison officer are among three people arrested by Scotland Yard in investigation into payments to police and public officials.
• The CPS has said it would not be in the public interest to prosecute Guardian journalist David Leigh over comments made about phone hacking.• The CPS has said it would not be in the public interest to prosecute Guardian journalist David Leigh over comments made about phone hacking.
12.59pm: The inquiry has broken for lunch.12.59pm: The inquiry has broken for lunch.
It will resume at 2pm, when David Cameron will resume his evidence.It will resume at 2pm, when David Cameron will resume his evidence.
12.58pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:12.58pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Cameron now contradicting Coulson evidence. AC said Cam never asked him about hacking after Jul 09. Cam says he asked for undertakings againCameron now contradicting Coulson evidence. AC said Cam never asked him about hacking after Jul 09. Cam says he asked for undertakings again
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
12.57pm: Cameron says he had a conversation with Coulson asking whether the former News of the World editor would repeat his assurances over phone hacking to the Commons culture, media and sport select committee.12.57pm: Cameron says he had a conversation with Coulson asking whether the former News of the World editor would repeat his assurances over phone hacking to the Commons culture, media and sport select committee.
"If someone had given me evidence that he knew about phone hacking I wouldn't have employed him and I would have fired him," Cameron says."If someone had given me evidence that he knew about phone hacking I wouldn't have employed him and I would have fired him," Cameron says.
12.56pm: Jay moves forward to July 2009, the month of the Guardian's first phone-hacking revelations.12.56pm: Jay moves forward to July 2009, the month of the Guardian's first phone-hacking revelations.
Cameron says he is sure it was drawn to his attention. "The test I set is there new information that shows that the undertakings I was given were wrong? I didn't see evidence that the undertakings I was given were wrong," Cameron says, over its impact on Coulson.Cameron says he is sure it was drawn to his attention. "The test I set is there new information that shows that the undertakings I was given were wrong? I didn't see evidence that the undertakings I was given were wrong," Cameron says, over its impact on Coulson.
12.55pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:12.55pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
V sharp question from #Leveson: If Coulson misrepresented him with "Hug a hoodie" headline wasn't he worried he would misrepresent policy?V sharp question from #Leveson: If Coulson misrepresented him with "Hug a hoodie" headline wasn't he worried he would misrepresent policy?
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
12.54pm: "If you're worried about headlines, don't make speeches about love," Cameron says, after Leveson asks about Coulson's involvement in the infamous "Hug a Hoodie" headline.12.54pm: "If you're worried about headlines, don't make speeches about love," Cameron says, after Leveson asks about Coulson's involvement in the infamous "Hug a Hoodie" headline.
12.53pm: Jay asks if Coulson's News International past was irrelevant to the appointment.12.53pm: Jay asks if Coulson's News International past was irrelevant to the appointment.
"No," says Cameron, adding that Coulson was not given the job because the Tories believed it would be easier to win over News International titles."No," says Cameron, adding that Coulson was not given the job because the Tories believed it would be easier to win over News International titles.
12.53pm: Cameron is asked why he believed Coulson deserved a second chance.12.53pm: Cameron is asked why he believed Coulson deserved a second chance.
He says it is because he felt Coulson did the "honourable thing" by resigning in the wake of the phone-hacking arrests of Clive Goodman and Glenn Mulcaire at the News of the World in 2007.He says it is because he felt Coulson did the "honourable thing" by resigning in the wake of the phone-hacking arrests of Clive Goodman and Glenn Mulcaire at the News of the World in 2007.
12.50pm: Cameron says:12.50pm: Cameron says:
These were undertakings that were given to the DCMS select committee, that were accepted by the police, that were accepted by the PCC, that were given to a perjury trial … yes I accepted his undertakings but so did a number of other organisations.These were undertakings that were given to the DCMS select committee, that were accepted by the police, that were accepted by the PCC, that were given to a perjury trial … yes I accepted his undertakings but so did a number of other organisations.
Leveson intervenes to say "we aren't making judgment" about Coulson's actions or statements.Leveson intervenes to say "we aren't making judgment" about Coulson's actions or statements.
Cameron confirms there was no independent verification of Coulson's assurances.Cameron confirms there was no independent verification of Coulson's assurances.
12.47pm: Jay presses Cameron on the controversies of hiring Coulson.12.47pm: Jay presses Cameron on the controversies of hiring Coulson.
Cameron admits the appointment "has come back to haunt both him and me".Cameron admits the appointment "has come back to haunt both him and me".
He adds:He adds:
Some people just didn't approve of what the News of the World or what tabloids do. Quite aggressive articles sometimes. Andy Coulson came up with the most effective and destructive headline about me ever, three words which I never uttered: 'Hug a Hoodie'.Some people just didn't approve of what the News of the World or what tabloids do. Quite aggressive articles sometimes. Andy Coulson came up with the most effective and destructive headline about me ever, three words which I never uttered: 'Hug a Hoodie'.
12.46pm: Cameron says Coulson did the job "very effectively" and behaved "in a proper way".12.46pm: Cameron says Coulson did the job "very effectively" and behaved "in a proper way".
12.44pm: Cameron says:12.44pm: Cameron says:
What I assessed was that this was clearly a controversial appointment, and controversial for two reasons. One was that bad things happened at the NoW while he was editor and he resigned … the second reason there was controversy is that this was a tabloid editor. There are some people who would say don't have a tabloid editor.What I assessed was that this was clearly a controversial appointment, and controversial for two reasons. One was that bad things happened at the NoW while he was editor and he resigned … the second reason there was controversy is that this was a tabloid editor. There are some people who would say don't have a tabloid editor.
12.39pm: Cameron says he asked Coulson about phone hacking in a face-to-face meeting in the Norman Shaw building in Westminster, at which he sought assurances from Coulson.12.39pm: Cameron says he asked Coulson about phone hacking in a face-to-face meeting in the Norman Shaw building in Westminster, at which he sought assurances from Coulson.
"I remember it was very important that I ask him that question," he adds."I remember it was very important that I ask him that question," he adds.
Coulson said the hiring process was completed in a phone call, which Cameron appears to confirm.Coulson said the hiring process was completed in a phone call, which Cameron appears to confirm.
12.37pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:12.37pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Cameron looking staggeringly shifty about extent to which he discussed Coulson appointment with Rebekah Brooks #LevesonCameron looking staggeringly shifty about extent to which he discussed Coulson appointment with Rebekah Brooks #Leveson
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
12.37pm: Jay suggests character and integrity are also important.12.37pm: Jay suggests character and integrity are also important.
"Of course... you have to be working with them," replies Cameron."Of course... you have to be working with them," replies Cameron.
He does not recall discussing Coulson's integrity with Brooks.He does not recall discussing Coulson's integrity with Brooks.
12.36pm: Cameron discussed Coulson's appointemnt with Rebekah Brooks.12.36pm: Cameron discussed Coulson's appointemnt with Rebekah Brooks.
"I'm sure I would have asked how effective he would be," he says. "In the end it was my decision.""I'm sure I would have asked how effective he would be," he says. "In the end it was my decision."
He adds: "The most important thing I would have wanted to know is would he be good at the job."He adds: "The most important thing I would have wanted to know is would he be good at the job."
12.33pm: Cameron says Francis Maude and Ed Llewellyn asked and obtained assurances from Coulson over phone hacking in 2007.12.33pm: Cameron says Francis Maude and Ed Llewellyn asked and obtained assurances from Coulson over phone hacking in 2007.
Osborne thought this was a good idea "but I take full responsibility for it," he says.Osborne thought this was a good idea "but I take full responsibility for it," he says.
Asked about Osborne's role in the selection process, Cameron says "George and I work very closely together."Asked about Osborne's role in the selection process, Cameron says "George and I work very closely together."
12.32pm: Cameron says he drew up a shortlist including Coulson, Guto Harri, someone senior from a broadsheet, someone senior from the BBC and a political journalist on a tabloid newspaper.12.32pm: Cameron says he drew up a shortlist including Coulson, Guto Harri, someone senior from a broadsheet, someone senior from the BBC and a political journalist on a tabloid newspaper.
12.31pm: Cameron confirms that other candidates for the job were from broadsheets, but Coulson was not the only candidate from News International.12.31pm: Cameron confirms that other candidates for the job were from broadsheets, but Coulson was not the only candidate from News International.
He says Coulson was the only tabloid editor available when he made the appointment.He says Coulson was the only tabloid editor available when he made the appointment.
12.30pm: Jay asks if Cameron was modelling the role on Alastair Campbell.12.30pm: Jay asks if Cameron was modelling the role on Alastair Campbell.
Cameron says Campbell was more political than Coulson and there was occasions "where he overstepped what he should have been doing," he adds.Cameron says Campbell was more political than Coulson and there was occasions "where he overstepped what he should have been doing," he adds.
12.29pm: Cameron is asked about the appointment of Andy Coulson.12.29pm: Cameron is asked about the appointment of Andy Coulson.
The prime minister says he was looking for a "big hitter" and tabloid editors "bring something that others wouldn't".The prime minister says he was looking for a "big hitter" and tabloid editors "bring something that others wouldn't".
"There wasn't a particular wish list but it was about trying to get the right person with the right skills.""There wasn't a particular wish list but it was about trying to get the right person with the right skills."
He wanted someone to "materially alter and improve" how the party did things, and be able to cope with huge political pressure.He wanted someone to "materially alter and improve" how the party did things, and be able to cope with huge political pressure.
12.28pm: The Guardian's Tom Clark has just tweeted:12.28pm: The Guardian's Tom Clark has just tweeted:
Here is that Sun "Yes He Cam" leader which today's text puts in new light thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/n…Here is that Sun "Yes He Cam" leader which today's text puts in new light thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/n…
— Tom Clark (@guardian_clark) June 14, 2012— Tom Clark (@guardian_clark) June 14, 2012
12.27pm: The Conservatives' media policy "weren't dictated by anyone else", repeats Cameron sharply.12.27pm: The Conservatives' media policy "weren't dictated by anyone else", repeats Cameron sharply.
"OK, I think I've probably covered that, then," replies Jay, to laughter from the press bench."OK, I think I've probably covered that, then," replies Jay, to laughter from the press bench.
12.25pm: Jay asks whether there can be a perception of a link between the Conservative party's policies and Murdoch's MacTaggart lecture.12.25pm: Jay asks whether there can be a perception of a link between the Conservative party's policies and Murdoch's MacTaggart lecture.
Cameron says he does not accept that. Tory policies were "borne out of proper Conservative thinking on the media," he says. "There's very good, Conservative explanations for the policies we hold."Cameron says he does not accept that. Tory policies were "borne out of proper Conservative thinking on the media," he says. "There's very good, Conservative explanations for the policies we hold."
12.22pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:12.22pm: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Hard to say which bit of that text more excuciating. Yes he Cam? Professionally in this together? OE's charm personified. Views?Hard to say which bit of that text more excuciating. Yes he Cam? Professionally in this together? OE's charm personified. Views?
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
12.21pm: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:12.21pm: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Brooks text implies clear common cause w Cameron; NewsInt and the Tories were allied. "Professionally we're definitely in this together"Brooks text implies clear common cause w Cameron; NewsInt and the Tories were allied. "Professionally we're definitely in this together"
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
12.18pm: Cameron describes Gordon Brown's allegation of a deal between the Tories and News International as "absolute nonsense from start to finish".12.18pm: Cameron describes Gordon Brown's allegation of a deal between the Tories and News International as "absolute nonsense from start to finish".
12.11pm: Cameron says he does not recall "any specific pressure" from News International over its campaign for a fresh police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.12.11pm: Cameron says he does not recall "any specific pressure" from News International over its campaign for a fresh police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
12.09pm: Jay raises one text message sent on 7 October 2009, on the eve of Cameron's Tory conference speech:12.09pm: Jay raises one text message sent on 7 October 2009, on the eve of Cameron's Tory conference speech:
But seriously I do understand the issue with the Times. Let's discuss over country supper soon. On the party it was because I had asked a number of NI [News International] people to Manchester post endorsement and they were disappointed not to see you. But as always Sam was wonderful (and I thought it was OE's [Old Etonians] were charm personfied!) I am so rooting for you tomorrow not just as a proud friend but because professionally we're definitely in this together! Speech of your life? Yes he Cam But seriously I do understand the issue with the Times. Let's discuss over country supper soon. On the party it was because I had asked a number of NI [News International] people to Manchester post endorsement and they were disappointed not to see you. But as always Sam was wonderful (and I thought it was OE's [Old Etonians] were charm personfied!) I am so rooting for you tomorrow not just as a proud friend but because professionally we're definitely in this together! Speech of your life? Yes he Cam!
Cameron says that was about the Sun supporting the Tories "so the Sun wanted to make sure it could help the Tories put its best foot forward". Cameron explains the text as follows: "The issue of the Times was, at the party conference I had not been to the Times party … and I was apologising for that, and that would explain her disappointment, as it were, if that helps."
He says that Brooks's phrase "we're definitely in this together" was about the Sun supporting the Tories "so the Sun wanted to make sure it could help the Tories put its best foot forward": "We were, you know, going to be pushing the same political agenda."
Asked if the "country supper" was a typical occurrence, he says: "Yes, because we were neighbours."
12.06pm: Jay turns to Cameron's text messages to Brooks.
Jay makes it clear that News International have disclosed a number of other texts between Brooks and Cameron between 2009 and 2011 after a section 21 order from the Leveson inquiry.		12.06pm: Jay turns to Cameron's text messages to Brooks.
Jay makes it clear that News International have disclosed a number of other texts between Brooks and Cameron between 2009 and 2011 after a section 21 order from the Leveson inquiry.
12.04pm: Cameron is asked whether he spoke to Brooks on a weekly basis between 2008 and 2009.12.04pm: Cameron is asked whether he spoke to Brooks on a weekly basis between 2008 and 2009.
"The level of contact went up and we saw each other socially more," he says, because Brooks moved to Chipping Norton at this time."The level of contact went up and we saw each other socially more," he says, because Brooks moved to Chipping Norton at this time.
Asked when he saw Brooks socially, "I don't think every weekend, I don't think most weekends."Asked when he saw Brooks socially, "I don't think every weekend, I don't think most weekends."
12.04pm: Rebekah Brooks was a "good friend" by 2008, Cameron confirms.12.04pm: Rebekah Brooks was a "good friend" by 2008, Cameron confirms.
He says he called Rebekah Brooks in 2006/07 less than Gordon Brown did – "not necessarily every week".He says he called Rebekah Brooks in 2006/07 less than Gordon Brown did – "not necessarily every week".
His relationship with Brooks got stronger when she married Charlie Brooks, an old friend, he adds.His relationship with Brooks got stronger when she married Charlie Brooks, an old friend, he adds.
12.01pm: Asked if Matthew Freud and his wife Elisabeth Murdoch acted as "facilitators" in relations between the Tories and the Sun, Cameron replies:12.01pm: Asked if Matthew Freud and his wife Elisabeth Murdoch acted as "facilitators" in relations between the Tories and the Sun, Cameron replies:
I'm not totally sure what role Matthew was playing. I'm not quite sure about Matthew's politics. He was helpful in trying to facilitate meetings, but he supports different sides at different times.I'm not totally sure what role Matthew was playing. I'm not quite sure about Matthew's politics. He was helpful in trying to facilitate meetings, but he supports different sides at different times.
12.00pm: Journalist and author James Robinson has just tweeted:12.00pm: Journalist and author James Robinson has just tweeted:
Jay words of day thus far: 'recondite', 'occlude' #levesonJay words of day thus far: 'recondite', 'occlude' #leveson
— james robinson (@jamesro47) June 14, 2012— james robinson (@jamesro47) June 14, 2012
11.59am: Cameron felt that the Sun's Trevor Kavanagh was a "strong ally" on the paper in his bid to win support of the title.11.59am: Cameron felt that the Sun's Trevor Kavanagh was a "strong ally" on the paper in his bid to win support of the title.
When did he believe Rebekah Brooks was onside? "I couldn't give you a date," Cameron says. "I don't want to get it wrong."When did he believe Rebekah Brooks was onside? "I couldn't give you a date," Cameron says. "I don't want to get it wrong."
He adds it was "more than weeks" before the Sun switched its support.He adds it was "more than weeks" before the Sun switched its support.
11.58am: Jay asks if Andy Coulson gave Cameron advice on how to win over the Sun.11.58am: Jay asks if Andy Coulson gave Cameron advice on how to win over the Sun.
"Of course," Cameron says, pointing out that his job was to advise on the media."Of course," Cameron says, pointing out that his job was to advise on the media.
11.57am: Cameron confirms he believed that "we had our work cut out to win over the Sun" because both Rebekah Brooks and Rupert Murdoch were friendly with Gordon Brown.11.57am: Cameron confirms he believed that "we had our work cut out to win over the Sun" because both Rebekah Brooks and Rupert Murdoch were friendly with Gordon Brown.
I sensed that if we could show that Sun readers were moving in a Conservative direction we would have a good change on winning their support.I sensed that if we could show that Sun readers were moving in a Conservative direction we would have a good change on winning their support.
11.56am: Cameron says he developed a strategy to explain his policies. Some of these were directed towards the Sun, he confirms, referencing the council tax.11.56am: Cameron says he developed a strategy to explain his policies. Some of these were directed towards the Sun, he confirms, referencing the council tax.
11.55am: Political journalist Iain Martin has just tweeted:11.55am: Political journalist Iain Martin has just tweeted:
Cameron thinks he might remember meeting Fred Michel at NI party. Can clear that up, I was there and remember them meeting.Cameron thinks he might remember meeting Fred Michel at NI party. Can clear that up, I was there and remember them meeting.
— Iain Martin (@iainmartin1) June 14, 2012— Iain Martin (@iainmartin1) June 14, 2012
11.55am: Cameron does not say he was "bombarded" by text messages. He says he has "moved away from email" because that is more formal, adding: "But I do get texts from business people, friends".11.55am: Cameron does not say he was "bombarded" by text messages. He says he has "moved away from email" because that is more formal, adding: "But I do get texts from business people, friends".
11.53am: Jay asks if Cameron accorded any weight to Barclay's view on the economy.11.53am: Jay asks if Cameron accorded any weight to Barclay's view on the economy.
"I get a lot of exposure to businesses' views on these points, some by texts, many more by meetings," Cameron says."I get a lot of exposure to businesses' views on these points, some by texts, many more by meetings," Cameron says.
11.50am: Cameron is asked about evidence from Aidan Barclay, the Telegraph chairman, who said he texted the prime minister.11.50am: Cameron is asked about evidence from Aidan Barclay, the Telegraph chairman, who said he texted the prime minister.
Barclay told the inquiry he wanted to set up a daily phone call between Cameron and the Telegraph editor Tony Gallagher during the 2010 election campaign.Barclay told the inquiry he wanted to set up a daily phone call between Cameron and the Telegraph editor Tony Gallagher during the 2010 election campaign.
11.49am: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:11.49am: The Guardian's deputy editor, Ian Katz, has just tweeted:
Occlude #learntospeaklikerobertjayOcclude #learntospeaklikerobertjay
— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012— ian katz (@iankatz1000) June 14, 2012
11.45am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:11.45am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Cameron says he was told by J Murdoch on Sept 10 09 that Sun would come out for Tories in *Labour conf* three weeks later.Cameron says he was told by J Murdoch on Sept 10 09 that Sun would come out for Tories in *Labour conf* three weeks later.
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
11.44am: Cameron then had dinner with Murdoch on 21 September 2009, 11 days after he had been told of the Sun's switch of support.11.44am: Cameron then had dinner with Murdoch on 21 September 2009, 11 days after he had been told of the Sun's switch of support.
11.43am: Jay presses Cameron on whether Murdoch discussed media policy at this crucial meeting.11.43am: Jay presses Cameron on whether Murdoch discussed media policy at this crucial meeting.
"I don't think so," says Cameron, repeating his belief that it was mainly about economic policy and the switch in support of the Sun."I don't think so," says Cameron, repeating his belief that it was mainly about economic policy and the switch in support of the Sun.
11.42am: Cameron does not recall Murdoch raising Tory policy on the BBC or Ofcom on this occasion.11.42am: Cameron does not recall Murdoch raising Tory policy on the BBC or Ofcom on this occasion.
"He's got lots of enthusiasms that aren't about the media," Cameron says. "My memory is it was mostly about the big economic picture because that was the key issue of the day.""He's got lots of enthusiasms that aren't about the media," Cameron says. "My memory is it was mostly about the big economic picture because that was the key issue of the day."
Cameron says he had not read Murdoch's MacTaggart lecture at the time. "Some of it I did not agree with," he adds.Cameron says he had not read Murdoch's MacTaggart lecture at the time. "Some of it I did not agree with," he adds.
11.39am: The inquiry turns to Cameron's 10 September 2009 meeting with James Murdoch at the George private clubin London's Mount Street.11.39am: The inquiry turns to Cameron's 10 September 2009 meeting with James Murdoch at the George private clubin London's Mount Street.
It was on this occasion that Murdoch told Cameron the Sun would switch its support to the Tories.It was on this occasion that Murdoch told Cameron the Sun would switch its support to the Tories.
It was a drink and a catch-up but he wanted to tell me the Sun was going to support the Conservatives. He told me I think it was going to happen around the time of the Labour party conference. I was pleased obviously. I remember the hint it was going to be at sometime in Labour's conference.It was a drink and a catch-up but he wanted to tell me the Sun was going to support the Conservatives. He told me I think it was going to happen around the time of the Labour party conference. I was pleased obviously. I remember the hint it was going to be at sometime in Labour's conference.
11.38am: Jay raises the issue of Murdoch's MacTaggart speech of 28 August 2009 attacking the BBC and Ofcom.11.38am: Jay raises the issue of Murdoch's MacTaggart speech of 28 August 2009 attacking the BBC and Ofcom.
Cameron says "the BBC is the cornerstone of British broadcasting – you need to have a licence fee" and Ofcom, while bloated, has an "important role".Cameron says "the BBC is the cornerstone of British broadcasting – you need to have a licence fee" and Ofcom, while bloated, has an "important role".
11.36am: Cameron is asked about his meeting with James Murdoch in May 2009.11.36am: Cameron is asked about his meeting with James Murdoch in May 2009.
He says Murdoch may have raised regulation. "I'm sure we must have discussed our views," he says.He says Murdoch may have raised regulation. "I'm sure we must have discussed our views," he says.
11.35am: Asked again about the Santorini trip, Cameron says it was Matthew Freud's idea.11.35am: Asked again about the Santorini trip, Cameron says it was Matthew Freud's idea.
From my point of view it was just an opportunity to get to know Rupert Murdoch better. Obviously I was trying to win the support of his newspapers … It was a long way to go and all that, but it just seemed a good opportunity.From my point of view it was just an opportunity to get to know Rupert Murdoch better. Obviously I was trying to win the support of his newspapers … It was a long way to go and all that, but it just seemed a good opportunity.
Cameron says at the time he was due to visit Georgia and it seemed a good opportunity to "link up at the last minute". He does not recall speaking to Brooks about the visit before it happened.Cameron says at the time he was due to visit Georgia and it seemed a good opportunity to "link up at the last minute". He does not recall speaking to Brooks about the visit before it happened.
11.33am: Jay asks about drinks with Paul Dacre, editor-in-chief of the Daily Mail, in 2006. He says this may have been a one-on-one meeting.11.33am: Jay asks about drinks with Paul Dacre, editor-in-chief of the Daily Mail, in 2006. He says this may have been a one-on-one meeting.
Cameron says he cannot recall whether Dacre raised the information commissioner's What Price Privacy Now? report into the unlawful trading of confidential information in a meeting in December 2006.Cameron says he cannot recall whether Dacre raised the information commissioner's What Price Privacy Now? report into the unlawful trading of confidential information in a meeting in December 2006.
11.32am: The inquiry resumes.11.32am: The inquiry resumes.
Cameron says he has known Matthew Freud, the son-in-law of Rupert Murdoch, for about 20 years.Cameron says he has known Matthew Freud, the son-in-law of Rupert Murdoch, for about 20 years.
He has known Elisabeth Murdoch since she married Freud, he says.He has known Elisabeth Murdoch since she married Freud, he says.
11.30am: Those playing "Leveson bingo" with Robert Jay QC's florid language might like to note that he has so far used the word "adventitious".11.30am: Those playing "Leveson bingo" with Robert Jay QC's florid language might like to note that he has so far used the word "adventitious".
11.28am: Here is a brief summary of this morning's hearing so far:11.28am: Here is a brief summary of this morning's hearing so far:
• Cameron denied any "overt or covert" deals for the support of a newspaper.• Cameron denied any "overt or covert" deals for the support of a newspaper.
• Cameron met Rebekah Brooks 19 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rupert Murdoch 10 times while in opposition, the inquiry heard.• Cameron met Rebekah Brooks 19 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rupert Murdoch 10 times while in opposition, the inquiry heard.
• Cameron listed journalists who were close friends, including the Times's Daniel Finkelstein and Sarah Vine, the wife of education secretary Michael Gove.• Cameron listed journalists who were close friends, including the Times's Daniel Finkelstein and Sarah Vine, the wife of education secretary Michael Gove.
• ASun journalist and a prison officer are among three people arrested by Scotland Yard in investigation into payments to police and public officials.• ASun journalist and a prison officer are among three people arrested by Scotland Yard in investigation into payments to police and public officials.
• The CPS has said it would not be in the public interest to prosecute Guardian journalist David Leigh over comments made about phone hacking.• The CPS has said it would not be in the public interest to prosecute Guardian journalist David Leigh over comments made about phone hacking.
11.26am: The Guardian's John Plunkett has just sent us this extract from Cameron's witness statement:11.26am: The Guardian's John Plunkett has just sent us this extract from Cameron's witness statement:
At the time I became leader of the Conservative party I did not have widespread support in the media. I wanted to meet media figures (not just Rupert Murdoch) to make sure the Conservative party got a fairhearing in the press.At the time I became leader of the Conservative party I did not have widespread support in the media. I wanted to meet media figures (not just Rupert Murdoch) to make sure the Conservative party got a fairhearing in the press.
I also considered it was important to have good relations with Rupert Murdoch becuase at this time his newspapers were supporting the Labour government and I wanted to raise awareness of what I perceived to be the faults in that administration and in their policies. One way of doing this was via the media.I also considered it was important to have good relations with Rupert Murdoch becuase at this time his newspapers were supporting the Labour government and I wanted to raise awareness of what I perceived to be the faults in that administration and in their policies. One way of doing this was via the media.
I did hope that in time we would have the support of News International's papers, after all these newspapers fundamentally shared the same views on society and the free market as the Conservative party.I did hope that in time we would have the support of News International's papers, after all these newspapers fundamentally shared the same views on society and the free market as the Conservative party.
11.21am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:11.21am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Cameron's meeting schedule left out Rupert Murdoch who was also at Santorini dinner on August 16 2008 w Elisabeth, Freud + Brooks.Cameron's meeting schedule left out Rupert Murdoch who was also at Santorini dinner on August 16 2008 w Elisabeth, Freud + Brooks.
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
11.20am: The inquiry is now taking a short break.11.20am: The inquiry is now taking a short break.
11.19am: Cameron is asked about his Santorini visit with Matthew Freud, Rebekah Brooks and the Murdochs.11.19am: Cameron is asked about his Santorini visit with Matthew Freud, Rebekah Brooks and the Murdochs.
"My memory was that this was drinks, then a dinner, but the dinner was everyone that was there … Rupert Murdoch was there, yes," Cameron says."My memory was that this was drinks, then a dinner, but the dinner was everyone that was there … Rupert Murdoch was there, yes," Cameron says.
11.18am: While in opposition, Cameron met Rupert Murdoch 10 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rebekah Brooks 19 times, the inquiry hears.11.18am: While in opposition, Cameron met Rupert Murdoch 10 times, James Murdoch 15 times and Rebekah Brooks 19 times, the inquiry hears.
Cameron says that might not cover all his interactions, because his official diary would not include meetings on weekends.Cameron says that might not cover all his interactions, because his official diary would not include meetings on weekends.
11.17am: Jay says Cameron devoted a "very significant amount of time to media engagement" in his first two years in office, from 2005 to 2007.11.17am: Jay says Cameron devoted a "very significant amount of time to media engagement" in his first two years in office, from 2005 to 2007.
Cameron says entering No 10 it "felt like a newsroom".Cameron says entering No 10 it "felt like a newsroom".
11.16am: Stewart Purvis, professor of television at London's City University and former ITN executive, has just tweeted:11.16am: Stewart Purvis, professor of television at London's City University and former ITN executive, has just tweeted:
#Leveson This is so relaxed when do we get to hear DC's choice of 8 records#Leveson This is so relaxed when do we get to hear DC's choice of 8 records
— Stewart Purvis (@StewartPurvis) June 14, 2012— Stewart Purvis (@StewartPurvis) June 14, 2012
11.12am: Leveson refers to evidence from Alastair Campbell, who said New Labour was mistaken to take its approach to the press in opposition into No 10 in 1997.11.12am: Leveson refers to evidence from Alastair Campbell, who said New Labour was mistaken to take its approach to the press in opposition into No 10 in 1997.
Cameron suggests he has an idea, making the obvious point that the party goes from talking about policies to creating them.Cameron suggests he has an idea, making the obvious point that the party goes from talking about policies to creating them.
11.11am: Jay asks whether Cameron changed his approach to the media in 2007.11.11am: Jay asks whether Cameron changed his approach to the media in 2007.
Cameron says he did "progressively realise, over 2006 and 2007, that it's very difficult if you don't have what I would call the different bits of the Conservative family behind you … you also need those bits of the Conservative press that should be behind you".Cameron says he did "progressively realise, over 2006 and 2007, that it's very difficult if you don't have what I would call the different bits of the Conservative family behind you … you also need those bits of the Conservative press that should be behind you".
He concedes that he was "struggling a bit" to get his message across to the Tory press in 2006 and 2007, so redoubled his efforts to win their backing.He concedes that he was "struggling a bit" to get his message across to the Tory press in 2006 and 2007, so redoubled his efforts to win their backing.
11.06am: Cameron points out he won the leadership of the Tory party without the backing of newspapers.11.06am: Cameron points out he won the leadership of the Tory party without the backing of newspapers.
TV helped the future prime minister get his point across, he says.TV helped the future prime minister get his point across, he says.
11.04am: Cameron is asked about the evidence from John Major about his meeting with Rupert Murdoch in February 1997. Major told the inquiry that Murdoch said his newspapers would not support the Tory government if it did not change its policy on Europe.11.04am: Cameron is asked about the evidence from John Major about his meeting with Rupert Murdoch in February 1997. Major told the inquiry that Murdoch said his newspapers would not support the Tory government if it did not change its policy on Europe.
Cameron he has not had a conversation "of that nature" but media executives will make their feelings known.Cameron he has not had a conversation "of that nature" but media executives will make their feelings known.
"You have very robust debates about policy areas where you don't agree," he adds."You have very robust debates about policy areas where you don't agree," he adds.
Sun journalists were keen for the paper to change its stance because they felt the title was out of tune with its readers, Cameron tells the inquiry.Sun journalists were keen for the paper to change its stance because they felt the title was out of tune with its readers, Cameron tells the inquiry.
11.03am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:11.03am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Cameron's hack friends - danny finkelstein, alice thomson, sarah vine, times; xan smiley chris lockwood, economist, robert hardman,mailCameron's hack friends - danny finkelstein, alice thomson, sarah vine, times; xan smiley chris lockwood, economist, robert hardman,mail
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
11.01am: In his witness statement, Cameron lists a small number of journalists who are close friends. He says he will inevitably forget to tell his office of all interactions with these friends, adding:11.01am: In his witness statement, Cameron lists a small number of journalists who are close friends. He says he will inevitably forget to tell his office of all interactions with these friends, adding:
You can't unmake the friendships that you have; some of them I've known for 20 to 30 years.You can't unmake the friendships that you have; some of them I've known for 20 to 30 years.
11.00am: Cameron suggests that if commercial interests come up in media meetings then the revelant minister should tell their private secretary.11.00am: Cameron suggests that if commercial interests come up in media meetings then the revelant minister should tell their private secretary.
10.59am: The Guardian's Patrick Wintour has just tweeted:10.59am: The Guardian's Patrick Wintour has just tweeted:
"If it is obvious that the proprietor has a commercial interest to raise in meeting with politician, a note should be taken." DC"If it is obvious that the proprietor has a commercial interest to raise in meeting with politician, a note should be taken." DC
— Patrick Wintour (@patrickwintour) June 14, 2012— Patrick Wintour (@patrickwintour) June 14, 2012
10.58am: Cameron says the idea of written notes of every media interaction would be overly bureaucratic.10.58am: Cameron says the idea of written notes of every media interaction would be overly bureaucratic.
10.57am: The inquiry turns to Cameron's meetings with media executives before he entered No 10.10.57am: The inquiry turns to Cameron's meetings with media executives before he entered No 10.
Cameron says that his yearly strategy will involve policy decisions, but it follows that his team will plan which are the best outlets for these policies.Cameron says that his yearly strategy will involve policy decisions, but it follows that his team will plan which are the best outlets for these policies.
"A huge amount of time when I became leader of the Conservative party was spent working out how to get our message across on television," Cameron says. He repeats his belief that TV is the most important medium, either seeking to distract or play down his meetings with Britain's biggest national newspaper group."A huge amount of time when I became leader of the Conservative party was spent working out how to get our message across on television," Cameron says. He repeats his belief that TV is the most important medium, either seeking to distract or play down his meetings with Britain's biggest national newspaper group.
10.55am: Cameron says:10.55am: Cameron says:
We should have a vigorous press. They should give us a good going over.We should have a vigorous press. They should give us a good going over.
However, he adds that it is frustrating to have your motives endlessly questioned.However, he adds that it is frustrating to have your motives endlessly questioned.
10.55am: "The volume knob has sometimes been turned really high in our press," Cameron says, riffing on the Leveson's inquiry's likening of the press to a megaphone. "Sometimes it feels it has been turned unnecessarily high".10.55am: "The volume knob has sometimes been turned really high in our press," Cameron says, riffing on the Leveson's inquiry's likening of the press to a megaphone. "Sometimes it feels it has been turned unnecessarily high".
10.54am: The Guardian's Patrick Wintour has just tweeted:10.54am: The Guardian's Patrick Wintour has just tweeted:
Special advisers should work for the whole government and not their individual ministers_ first story after wafflathonSpecial advisers should work for the whole government and not their individual ministers_ first story after wafflathon
— Patrick Wintour (@patrickwintour) June 14, 2012— Patrick Wintour (@patrickwintour) June 14, 2012
10.52am: There are responsible ways of handling media relations, but briefing against people is one of the "dreadful things" that have crept into play on both sides of the House of Commons, Cameron says.10.52am: There are responsible ways of handling media relations, but briefing against people is one of the "dreadful things" that have crept into play on both sides of the House of Commons, Cameron says.
10.49am: Cameron adds:10.49am: Cameron adds:
Of course I wanted to win over newspapers … but I didn't do it on the basis of saying overtly or covertly that 'your support will give you a better [position] on this policy or that policy'.Of course I wanted to win over newspapers … but I didn't do it on the basis of saying overtly or covertly that 'your support will give you a better [position] on this policy or that policy'.
10.47am: Cameron is asked about explicit and implied deals.10.47am: Cameron is asked about explicit and implied deals.
I think the idea of overt deals is nonsense … I also don't believe in this theory there was a nod and a wink and some sort of agreement.I think the idea of overt deals is nonsense … I also don't believe in this theory there was a nod and a wink and some sort of agreement.
10.46am: Cameron says explicitly for the first time at this inquiry that he has "never traded a policy" in return for the support of a media outlet.10.46am: Cameron says explicitly for the first time at this inquiry that he has "never traded a policy" in return for the support of a media outlet.
10.45am: Cameron says: "I'm not trying to blame the whole thing on New Labour, but I think it's been a developing story."10.45am: Cameron says: "I'm not trying to blame the whole thing on New Labour, but I think it's been a developing story."
He adds:He adds:
This is a cathartic moment, a chance to reset relations between press, politicians and the police.This is a cathartic moment, a chance to reset relations between press, politicians and the police.
10.44am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:10.44am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Essentially Cameron is rejecting Blair's "feral beasts" analysis as unhelpful when it comes to reform. So what next?Essentially Cameron is rejecting Blair's "feral beasts" analysis as unhelpful when it comes to reform. So what next?
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
10.42am: Cameron says in an ideal world newspaper front pages would only report what happened in the world yesterday, but adds that cannot be done.10.42am: Cameron says in an ideal world newspaper front pages would only report what happened in the world yesterday, but adds that cannot be done.
10.41am: Veteran commentator and Murdoch biographer Michael Wolff has just tweeted:10.41am: Veteran commentator and Murdoch biographer Michael Wolff has just tweeted:
So Cameron position is pay no mind to newspapers, television is really powerful...So Cameron position is pay no mind to newspapers, television is really powerful...
— Michael Wolff (@MichaelWolffNYC) June 14, 2012— Michael Wolff (@MichaelWolffNYC) June 14, 2012
10.40am: "With all the focus on meetings with newspaper groups, a big big focus has been on television and I hope that comes across in what I say," Cameron says.10.40am: "With all the focus on meetings with newspaper groups, a big big focus has been on television and I hope that comes across in what I say," Cameron says.
He tells the inquiry that political parties will devote more time to the 6pm TV news bulletins, rather than coverage in a particular newspaper.He tells the inquiry that political parties will devote more time to the 6pm TV news bulletins, rather than coverage in a particular newspaper.
10.40am: Cameron says it is a "forlorn hope" that it will ever be possible to separate fact and comment in newspapers.10.40am: Cameron says it is a "forlorn hope" that it will ever be possible to separate fact and comment in newspapers.
10.38am: The Guardian journalist David Leigh will not face charges over an article he wrote in relation to phone hacking in 2006.10.38am: The Guardian journalist David Leigh will not face charges over an article he wrote in relation to phone hacking in 2006.
The CPS said this morning in a statement:The CPS said this morning in a statement:
As we said on 18 April, the CPS was passed a file relating to one journalist with relation to alleged offences under RIPA. The journalist in question is David Leigh of the Guardian and the request for advice related to an article he wrote on 4 December 2006 and the evidence he gave to the Leveson inquiry on that subject.As we said on 18 April, the CPS was passed a file relating to one journalist with relation to alleged offences under RIPA. The journalist in question is David Leigh of the Guardian and the request for advice related to an article he wrote on 4 December 2006 and the evidence he gave to the Leveson inquiry on that subject.
We have now considered this file and, although the investigation is not complete, the view has been taken that this is one of those rare cases in which it is clear that, prior to the collection and consideration of all the evidence, the public interest does not require a prosecution. The police have been advised accordingly. This advice was given under paragraph 4.2 of the code for crown prosecutors and having considered the interim guidelines on assessing the public interest in cases affecting the media. In summary, the guidelines say that prosecutors should consider whether the public interest served by the conduct in question outweighs the overall criminality. If the answer is yes, it is less likely that a prosecution is required in the public interest.We have now considered this file and, although the investigation is not complete, the view has been taken that this is one of those rare cases in which it is clear that, prior to the collection and consideration of all the evidence, the public interest does not require a prosecution. The police have been advised accordingly. This advice was given under paragraph 4.2 of the code for crown prosecutors and having considered the interim guidelines on assessing the public interest in cases affecting the media. In summary, the guidelines say that prosecutors should consider whether the public interest served by the conduct in question outweighs the overall criminality. If the answer is yes, it is less likely that a prosecution is required in the public interest.
Prosecutors are only able to take such a decision when they are satisfied that the broad extent of the alleged criminality has been determined and that they are able to make a fully informed assessment of the public interest.Prosecutors are only able to take such a decision when they are satisfied that the broad extent of the alleged criminality has been determined and that they are able to make a fully informed assessment of the public interest.
This is not a charging decision based on a review of a full file of evidence, but is advice to the police before their investigation is complete. Whilst it is a matter for the police whether to continue any investigation, regardless of advice received, we understand the decision has been taken that no further action will be taken.This is not a charging decision based on a review of a full file of evidence, but is advice to the police before their investigation is complete. Whilst it is a matter for the police whether to continue any investigation, regardless of advice received, we understand the decision has been taken that no further action will be taken.
10.32am: Cameron is asked what he thought about Blair's 2007 "feral beasts" speech on the media.10.32am: Cameron is asked what he thought about Blair's 2007 "feral beasts" speech on the media.
He says he has a "horrible feeling" that Blair's speech was not given much backing, but cannot remember what he said at the time.He says he has a "horrible feeling" that Blair's speech was not given much backing, but cannot remember what he said at the time.
"OK," Jay says, moving Cameron swiftly onto another topic. The inquiry counsel is keeping the prime minister on his toes in these early exchanges."OK," Jay says, moving Cameron swiftly onto another topic. The inquiry counsel is keeping the prime minister on his toes in these early exchanges.
10.31am: Cameron describes Tony Blair's admission that there was a problem with the press among many more pressing issues as "an encapsulation of my risk No 1".10.31am: Cameron describes Tony Blair's admission that there was a problem with the press among many more pressing issues as "an encapsulation of my risk No 1".
In his witness statement, he says it is a regret that in opposition the Tories did not devote enough attention to the information commissioner's Operation Motorman reports in 2006.In his witness statement, he says it is a regret that in opposition the Tories did not devote enough attention to the information commissioner's Operation Motorman reports in 2006.
10.26am: Cameron adds:10.26am: Cameron adds:
I don't think the regulatory system we have at the moment works, and so we need to improve it.I don't think the regulatory system we have at the moment works, and so we need to improve it.
10.25am: Leveson says he struggles to see how regulation will cleanse the relationship between some politicians and the press.10.25am: Leveson says he struggles to see how regulation will cleanse the relationship between some politicians and the press.
"It's a culture thing, it seems to me," the judge adds."It's a culture thing, it seems to me," the judge adds.
Cameron counters that the culture has led to an impasse where regulation is glossed over.Cameron counters that the culture has led to an impasse where regulation is glossed over.
10.23am: Cameron accepts that politicians and the press have grown too close in the past two decades.10.23am: Cameron accepts that politicians and the press have grown too close in the past two decades.
I think this relationship has been gone wrong for … it's never been perfect, there's always been problems. I think in the last 20 years the relationship has not been right, I think it has been too close. I think we need to get it on a better footing.I think this relationship has been gone wrong for … it's never been perfect, there's always been problems. I think in the last 20 years the relationship has not been right, I think it has been too close. I think we need to get it on a better footing.
10.22am: News International has confirmed that a journalist at the Sun was one of the three people arrested as part of the Operation Elveden investigation this morning.10.22am: News International has confirmed that a journalist at the Sun was one of the three people arrested as part of the Operation Elveden investigation this morning.
10.20am: Cameron describes the relationship between politicians and the press as "not a particularly trusting relationship at the minute", due to the MPs' expenses scandal and phone hacking.10.20am: Cameron describes the relationship between politicians and the press as "not a particularly trusting relationship at the minute", due to the MPs' expenses scandal and phone hacking.
It has "become a bad relationship", he says. "Respect has to be earned on both sides."It has "become a bad relationship", he says. "Respect has to be earned on both sides."
10.19am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:10.19am: The Guardian's Dan Sabbagh has just tweeted:
Cameron looking less confident than I expected, early motherhood observations about importance of TV as a medium.Cameron looking less confident than I expected, early motherhood observations about importance of TV as a medium.
— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012— Dan Sabbagh (@dansabbagh) June 14, 2012
10.18am: Cameron adds "I think it's good that these campaigns are put forward because it's part of the democratic challenge," referring to the News of the World's "Sarah's law" campaign to name sex offenders as "controversial" but an important part of public debate.10.18am: Cameron adds "I think it's good that these campaigns are put forward because it's part of the democratic challenge," referring to the News of the World's "Sarah's law" campaign to name sex offenders as "controversial" but an important part of public debate.
For instance the 'Sarah's Law' campaign there were quite a lot of people who were quite condescending ... and actually the public were quite worried about this.For instance the 'Sarah's Law' campaign there were quite a lot of people who were quite condescending ... and actually the public were quite worried about this.
10.17am: Cameron is asked about newspaper campaigns. Some can be "extraordinarily important and poweful", he says, and some can be "just about what the editor cares about". It is up to politicians to judge what to take issue with or what to go along with.10.17am: Cameron is asked about newspaper campaigns. Some can be "extraordinarily important and poweful", he says, and some can be "just about what the editor cares about". It is up to politicians to judge what to take issue with or what to go along with.
10.15am: Three people gave been arrested by detectives from the Met's Operation Elveden investigation into alleged illegal payments by journalists to police and other public officials. Jason Deans reports:10.15am: Three people gave been arrested by detectives from the Met's Operation Elveden investigation into alleged illegal payments by journalists to police and other public officials. Jason Deans reports:
Scotland Yard detectives investigating alleged illegal payments by journalists to police and other public officials have made three further arrests, including a former prison officer.Scotland Yard detectives investigating alleged illegal payments by journalists to police and other public officials have made three further arrests, including a former prison officer.
Officers from Operation Elveden, the Metropolitan police investigation into the alleged illegal payments, arrested two men and a woman at about 6am on Thursday morning in Corby and Croydon. This takes the total number of arrests by Operation Elveden to 33.Officers from Operation Elveden, the Metropolitan police investigation into the alleged illegal payments, arrested two men and a woman at about 6am on Thursday morning in Corby and Croydon. This takes the total number of arrests by Operation Elveden to 33.
The former prison officer, a 40-year-old-man, was arrested at his home in Corby, Northamptonshire, on suspicion of corruption, misconduct in a public office and money laundering.The former prison officer, a 40-year-old-man, was arrested at his home in Corby, Northamptonshire, on suspicion of corruption, misconduct in a public office and money laundering.
A 37-year-old woman was also arrested at home in Corby, on suspicion of aiding and abetting misconduct in a public office and money laundering. Both are being questioned at a police station in Northamptonshire.A 37-year-old woman was also arrested at home in Corby, on suspicion of aiding and abetting misconduct in a public office and money laundering. Both are being questioned at a police station in Northamptonshire.
The third arrest on Thursday was of a 31-year-old man at his home in Croydon on suspicion of conspiracy to corrupt and conspiracy to cause misconduct in a public office.The third arrest on Thursday was of a 31-year-old man at his home in Croydon on suspicion of conspiracy to corrupt and conspiracy to cause misconduct in a public office.
"Officers investigating allegations of inappropriate payments to police and public officials have arrested two men and one woman this morning at three separate addresses," Scotland Yard said in a statement."Officers investigating allegations of inappropriate payments to police and public officials have arrested two men and one woman this morning at three separate addresses," Scotland Yard said in a statement.
"The arrests were made at approximately 0600 hours by officers from Operation Elveden which is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) and is being run in conjunction with Operation Weeting, the MPS inquiry into the phone-hacking of voicemail boxes."The arrests were made at approximately 0600 hours by officers from Operation Elveden which is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) and is being run in conjunction with Operation Weeting, the MPS inquiry into the phone-hacking of voicemail boxes.
"Today's arrests are the result of information provided to police by News Corporation's Management Standards Committee. They relate to suspected payments to a public official and are not about seeking journalists to reveal confidential sources in relation to information that has been obtained legitimately.""Today's arrests are the result of information provided to police by News Corporation's Management Standards Committee. They relate to suspected payments to a public official and are not about seeking journalists to reveal confidential sources in relation to information that has been obtained legitimately."
10.14am: Newspapers have been put in a difficult position by 24-hour news channels because the news has broken, Cameron says. Newspapers are then forced to find a new angle, which is as "change for the worse" sometimes, he adds.10.14am: Newspapers have been put in a difficult position by 24-hour news channels because the news has broken, Cameron says. Newspapers are then forced to find a new angle, which is as "change for the worse" sometimes, he adds.
"What it has lent me towards is spending quite a lot of focus on broadcasting," Cameron says, adding that TV is an "incredibly powerful" medium in communicating with the public."What it has lent me towards is spending quite a lot of focus on broadcasting," Cameron says, adding that TV is an "incredibly powerful" medium in communicating with the public.
10.11am: In his witness statement, Cameron says communication with the public through journalists is a "very big part of communication and so relationships [with journalists] are important".10.11am: In his witness statement, Cameron says communication with the public through journalists is a "very big part of communication and so relationships [with journalists] are important".
He adds that "off the record" conversations are also important.He adds that "off the record" conversations are also important.
10.09am: Cameron says his knowledge of the media is most detailed in the television sector, and he learned a lot at Carlton.10.09am: Cameron says his knowledge of the media is most detailed in the television sector, and he learned a lot at Carlton.
A lot of the views about media, media policy, media regulation, the BBC … Carlton was quite a formative place and I formed a lot of views then that I still hold today.A lot of the views about media, media policy, media regulation, the BBC … Carlton was quite a formative place and I formed a lot of views then that I still hold today.
10.08am: Jay asks about Cameron's time in the media, as director of corporate affairs at ITV company Carlton, and whether it it this that brought his first relationships with journalists.10.08am: Jay asks about Cameron's time in the media, as director of corporate affairs at ITV company Carlton, and whether it it this that brought his first relationships with journalists.
You can read more background on the time Cameron spent in PR here.You can read more background on the time Cameron spent in PR here.
Cameron says his relationship with political journalists first formed when he was a special adviser. "Some of those journalists are still around today," he says.Cameron says his relationship with political journalists first formed when he was a special adviser. "Some of those journalists are still around today," he says.
10.07am: Cameron is asked about his political career before 1991. He was a special adviser in the home office.10.07am: Cameron is asked about his political career before 1991. He was a special adviser in the home office.
Jay asks whether Cameron ever expressed an opinion he knew was not held by the minister in charge.Jay asks whether Cameron ever expressed an opinion he knew was not held by the minister in charge.
Cameron says his role was to be "a mouthpiece" and "a sponge" for the minister, but was fairly conventional.Cameron says his role was to be "a mouthpiece" and "a sponge" for the minister, but was fairly conventional.
10.06am: Cameron has brought with him an 84-page witness statement.10.06am: Cameron has brought with him an 84-page witness statement.
Lord Justice Leveson thanks him for his efforts.Lord Justice Leveson thanks him for his efforts.
10.05am: The inquiry begins. David Cameron is sworn in under his full name, David William Donald Cameron, and takes the witness stand.10.05am: The inquiry begins. David Cameron is sworn in under his full name, David William Donald Cameron, and takes the witness stand.
Robert Jay QC, counsel to the inquiry, is leading the questioning.Robert Jay QC, counsel to the inquiry, is leading the questioning.
9.53am: Good morning and welcome to the Leveson inquiry live blog.9.53am: Good morning and welcome to the Leveson inquiry live blog.
Prime minister David Cameron will face six hours of questions today as is asked to explain his relations with Rupert Murdoch's newspaper empire and its executives.Prime minister David Cameron will face six hours of questions today as is asked to explain his relations with Rupert Murdoch's newspaper empire and its executives.
Cameron will face the closest scrutiny yet of his relationship with Rebekah Brooks, the former News International chief executive, and Andy Coulson, the ex-News of the World editor who he hired as his communications director despite mounting allegations over phone hacking.Cameron will face the closest scrutiny yet of his relationship with Rebekah Brooks, the former News International chief executive, and Andy Coulson, the ex-News of the World editor who he hired as his communications director despite mounting allegations over phone hacking.
Cameron will also be pressed on his handling of News Corporation's aborted £8bn bid for BSkyB, and why he gave oversight of the bid to Jeremy Hunt when he knew the culture secretary was privately in support of the controversial takeover.Cameron will also be pressed on his handling of News Corporation's aborted £8bn bid for BSkyB, and why he gave oversight of the bid to Jeremy Hunt when he knew the culture secretary was privately in support of the controversial takeover.
The questioning of Cameron represents a key juncture for the inquiry into press standards. It began in November last year with victims of press intrusion, including the parents of Milly Dowler and of Madeline McCann, and ends with the serving prime minister.The questioning of Cameron represents a key juncture for the inquiry into press standards. It began in November last year with victims of press intrusion, including the parents of Milly Dowler and of Madeline McCann, and ends with the serving prime minister.
Cameron is facing questions about his judgment in an number of areas related to the phone hacking scandal. He will be asked to explain why he only once reputedly asked for assurances over Coulson, and why he infamously sent Brooks text messages ending in "LOL", which he believed meant lots of love.Cameron is facing questions about his judgment in an number of areas related to the phone hacking scandal. He will be asked to explain why he only once reputedly asked for assurances over Coulson, and why he infamously sent Brooks text messages ending in "LOL", which he believed meant lots of love.
Robert Jay QC, lead counsel to the inquiry, is likely to go into detail about Cameron's many meetings with Murdoch's executives, including private dinners with the Brooks' late in 2010.Robert Jay QC, lead counsel to the inquiry, is likely to go into detail about Cameron's many meetings with Murdoch's executives, including private dinners with the Brooks' late in 2010.