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Ed Miliband speaks on elected police commissioners: Politics live blog Ed Miliband speaks on elected police commissioners: Politics live blog
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11.34am: At last. Some words have arrived from the speech Ed Miliband gave this morning to mark the fact that Labour is announcing its police commissioner candidates. Here's the key quote.
We didn't seek these police commissioner elections - we thought that if you were spending £125m most people would want that money spent on the police, not on new elections. But if these elections do go ahead - if the government insists on them going ahead - we, Labour, are determined to make the best of a bad job.
What we are going to be arguing for in these elections is very, very important.
First of all we are going to be saying taking officers off the streets is the wrong thing to do - it's not what our communities want, it's not what the police want ...
We are going to be arguing that we will protect the independence of the police - our police commissioner candidates are committed to that. But also crucially we'll be arguing that we want police commissioners who will work with fantastic city councils like Birmingham to say 'Whatever national government is doing let's join up to cut crime - let's work together against anti-social behaviour'.
11.32am: David Cameron has just arrived in Mexico for the G20 summit, according to ITN.
11.03am: David Bartlett at the Liverpool Post has confirmed that Jane Kennedy has beaten Peter Kilfoyle for the Merseyside police commissioner Labour candidate nomination, by 974 votes to 833.11.03am: David Bartlett at the Liverpool Post has confirmed that Jane Kennedy has beaten Peter Kilfoyle for the Merseyside police commissioner Labour candidate nomination, by 974 votes to 833.
10.53am: More Labour crime commissioner news. This is from Dominyk Tiller.10.53am: More Labour crime commissioner news. This is from Dominyk Tiller.
@AndrewSparrow Bob Ashford for Labour in Avon & Somerset.@AndrewSparrow Bob Ashford for Labour in Avon & Somerset.
— Dominyk Tiller (@ddom2006) June 18, 2012— Dominyk Tiller (@ddom2006) June 18, 2012
10.46am: Here's the Labour website page with the police and crime commissioner candidate selection results. It's got 14 results on it so far.10.46am: Here's the Labour website page with the police and crime commissioner candidate selection results. It's got 14 results on it so far.
And here is the LabourList list. They've got 19 names on theirs.And here is the LabourList list. They've got 19 names on theirs.
10.21am: The Press Assocation have not filed anything from Ed Miliband's police commissioner speech, but they have put out his comments about the Greek election result.10.21am: The Press Assocation have not filed anything from Ed Miliband's police commissioner speech, but they have put out his comments about the Greek election result.
I think there is a real danger that after the Greek election results there is a sense of complacency - there is a sense that the international community can breathe a sigh of relief. The last thing we need is complacency and the last thing we need is an offer of more of the same. More of the same austerity is not going to work.I think there is a real danger that after the Greek election results there is a sense of complacency - there is a sense that the international community can breathe a sigh of relief. The last thing we need is complacency and the last thing we need is an offer of more of the same. More of the same austerity is not going to work.
I am afraid what we hear from our prime minister today is simply more of the same. If I was the prime minister, I would be going to the G20 meeting of world leaders and saying there has got to be a decisive change of course towards jobs and growth.I am afraid what we hear from our prime minister today is simply more of the same. If I was the prime minister, I would be going to the G20 meeting of world leaders and saying there has got to be a decisive change of course towards jobs and growth.

I'm not sure it is fair to accuse Cameron of complacency. But Miliband has certainly got a point about "more of the same". The "eurozone leaders must act" speech that Cameron is delivering this afternoon (see 8.50am) seems similar to the one he delivered in May, which itself was quite reminiscent of what he was saying in the autumn last year.
I'm not sure it is fair to accuse Cameron of complacency. But Miliband has certainly got a point about "more of the same". The "eurozone leaders must act" speech that Cameron is delivering this afternoon (see 8.50am) seems similar to the one he delivered in May, which itself was quite reminiscent of what he was saying in the autumn last year.
10.08am: And here are some more tweets I've received about Labour police commissioner candidate selections.10.08am: And here are some more tweets I've received about Labour police commissioner candidate selections.
From Benjamin RedsellFrom Benjamin Redsell
@AndrewSparrow Jane Basham, Suffolk.@AndrewSparrow Jane Basham, Suffolk.
— Benjamin Redsell (@bredsell) June 18, 2012— Benjamin Redsell (@bredsell) June 18, 2012
From Kulgan of CrydeeFrom Kulgan of Crydee
@AndrewSparrow #Labour #Leicester candidate for PCC Sarah Russell bit.ly/MAuZvI@AndrewSparrow #Labour #Leicester candidate for PCC Sarah Russell bit.ly/MAuZvI
— Kulgan of Crydee (@KulganofCrydee) June 18, 2012— Kulgan of Crydee (@KulganofCrydee) June 18, 2012
10.00am: A Twitter reader has sent me to Sam Chapman's Top of the Cops blog, which is devoted to news about the elected police commissioner posts.10.00am: A Twitter reader has sent me to Sam Chapman's Top of the Cops blog, which is devoted to news about the elected police commissioner posts.
Here are some extracts from a post that went up yesterday featuring more Labour names.Here are some extracts from a post that went up yesterday featuring more Labour names.
Councillor Craig McKinley, ex-Deputy-Leader of UKIP has been selected as the Conservative candidate for Kent PCC, where it is an open secret in advance of Monday's announcement that he will face Labour's Harriet Yeo ...Councillor Craig McKinley, ex-Deputy-Leader of UKIP has been selected as the Conservative candidate for Kent PCC, where it is an open secret in advance of Monday's announcement that he will face Labour's Harriet Yeo ...
In Suffolk, the Conservative shortlist is down to David Card, Ray Herring and Tim Passmore. The successful candidate will face Jane Basham from Labour, after her shortlisted Labour rival withdrew from the race ...In Suffolk, the Conservative shortlist is down to David Card, Ray Herring and Tim Passmore. The successful candidate will face Jane Basham from Labour, after her shortlisted Labour rival withdrew from the race ...
In Essex, Val Morris-Cook has been chosen as the Labour candidate. She will face Nicholas Alston from the Conservatives, and Independent Mick Thwaites ...In Essex, Val Morris-Cook has been chosen as the Labour candidate. She will face Nicholas Alston from the Conservatives, and Independent Mick Thwaites ...
In Thames Valley, the three Conservative finalists will be David Burbage, Kieron Mallon and Anthony Stansfeld. The Labour candidate will be former Lib-Dem Tim Starkey.In Thames Valley, the three Conservative finalists will be David Burbage, Kieron Mallon and Anthony Stansfeld. The Labour candidate will be former Lib-Dem Tim Starkey.
Chapman also has information about candidates being selected for the other parties, but I'm focusing on Labour today they are making their announcements.Chapman also has information about candidates being selected for the other parties, but I'm focusing on Labour today they are making their announcements.
9.38am: Here are some more Labour police commissioner candidate names from Twitter. I know most of these Twitter acounts and that the information they post is reliable. There are some that I don't know, but I've got no reason to believe that their information is bogus.9.38am: Here are some more Labour police commissioner candidate names from Twitter. I know most of these Twitter acounts and that the information they post is reliable. There are some that I don't know, but I've got no reason to believe that their information is bogus.
Obviously, when I get the full list from Labour, I'll post it.Obviously, when I get the full list from Labour, I'll post it.
From JChamberlainFrom JChamberlain
Former Euro MP Simon Murphy is Lab police commissioner candidate for West Mercia, former Minister James Plaskitt candidate for Warwickshire.Former Euro MP Simon Murphy is Lab police commissioner candidate for West Mercia, former Minister James Plaskitt candidate for Warwickshire.
From the BBC's Andrew SinclairFrom the BBC's Andrew Sinclair
@SteveMorphew confirmed as Labour candidate for police commissioner in Norfolk@SteveMorphew confirmed as Labour candidate for police commissioner in Norfolk
Labour police commissioner candidate for Bedfordshire: olly martins; for Cambs: ed murphyLabour police commissioner candidate for Bedfordshire: olly martins; for Cambs: ed murphy
From Paul Richards, a Labour activistFrom Paul Richards, a Labour activist
Congratulations to Godfrey Daniel, selected in Sussex to be Labour's candidate for police commissioner #PCCCongratulations to Godfrey Daniel, selected in Sussex to be Labour's candidate for police commissioner #PCC
From the Liverpool Echo's Luke TraynorFrom the Liverpool Echo's Luke Traynor

Jane Kennedy expected to be named Merseyside Police Commissioner
Jane Kennedy expected to be named Merseyside Police Commissioner
From the BBC's James VincentFrom the BBC's James Vincent
Shaun Wright - Labour Cllr in Rotherham - has been confirmed as the Labour candidate for Police Commissioner in South YorkshireShaun Wright - Labour Cllr in Rotherham - has been confirmed as the Labour candidate for Police Commissioner in South Yorkshire
From the South Wales Argus's David DeansFrom the South Wales Argus's David Deans
Hamish Sandison is Labour candidate for Gwent Police and Crime CommissionerHamish Sandison is Labour candidate for Gwent Police and Crime Commissioner
From Mary WimburyFrom Mary Wimbury
Delighted my husband @TalMichael will be Labour candidate for North Wales Police Commissioner. Very proud of the positive campaign he ran.Delighted my husband @TalMichael will be Labour candidate for North Wales Police Commissioner. Very proud of the positive campaign he ran.
Tal Michael is the son of Alun Michael, the former Home Office minister who has been chosen as Labour's candidate as commissioner for South Wales police.Tal Michael is the son of Alun Michael, the former Home Office minister who has been chosen as Labour's candidate as commissioner for South Wales police.
9.29am: I haven't seen a text of Ed Miliband's speech yet, and BBC News and Sky are pre-occupied with other matters, but some Labour police commissioner news has been coming out on Twitter.9.29am: I haven't seen a text of Ed Miliband's speech yet, and BBC News and Sky are pre-occupied with other matters, but some Labour police commissioner news has been coming out on Twitter.
John Prescott has confirmed that he will be Labour's police commissioner candidate in Humberside.John Prescott has confirmed that he will be Labour's police commissioner candidate in Humberside.
Good morning. I am really honoured to have been chosen by Labour members to be their Police and Crime Commissioner candidate....Good morning. I am really honoured to have been chosen by Labour members to be their Police and Crime Commissioner candidate....
— John Prescott (@johnprescott) June 18, 2012— John Prescott (@johnprescott) June 18, 2012
In Wales Labour has announced the names of its candidates for the four police commissioner vacancies in Wales.In Wales Labour has announced the names of its candidates for the four police commissioner vacancies in Wales.
Hamish Sandison, Christine Gwyther, Tal Michael and Alun Michael Welsh Labour's Police and Crime Commissioner candidates enter press eventHamish Sandison, Christine Gwyther, Tal Michael and Alun Michael Welsh Labour's Police and Crime Commissioner candidates enter press event
— Welsh Labour (@welshlabour) June 18, 2012— Welsh Labour (@welshlabour) June 18, 2012
And JChamberlain, a political blogger from Birmingham, is tweeting what appears to be news from the Labour event.And JChamberlain, a political blogger from Birmingham, is tweeting what appears to be news from the Labour event.
West Mids Labour candidate for Police Commissioner is Wolverhampton Cllr Bob JonesWest Mids Labour candidate for Police Commissioner is Wolverhampton Cllr Bob Jones
Ed Miliband says govt should not spend over £100m on police commissioner elections and use cash to pay for more coppers insteadEd Miliband says govt should not spend over £100m on police commissioner elections and use cash to pay for more coppers instead
But Miliband says Labour will use police commissioner elections to 'defend democracy' and calls for high turnout.But Miliband says Labour will use police commissioner elections to 'defend democracy' and calls for high turnout.
Police battling against the odds and against govt cuts, with over 2000 coppers to lose jobs in West Mids, says MilibandPolice battling against the odds and against govt cuts, with over 2000 coppers to lose jobs in West Mids, says Miliband
But Ed Miliband makes no mention of any commitment by next Lab govt to restore police cutsBut Ed Miliband makes no mention of any commitment by next Lab govt to restore police cuts
9.05am: Yesterday Philip Hammond, the defence secretary, said the government was going ahead with a £1bn contract to refurbish the Rolls-Royce plant in Derby to build reactors for the next generation of nuclear submarines. This will enable the government to replace Trident submarine-based nuclear deterrent. The Ministry of Defence is making a written ministerial statement about the announcement today.9.05am: Yesterday Philip Hammond, the defence secretary, said the government was going ahead with a £1bn contract to refurbish the Rolls-Royce plant in Derby to build reactors for the next generation of nuclear submarines. This will enable the government to replace Trident submarine-based nuclear deterrent. The Ministry of Defence is making a written ministerial statement about the announcement today.
The Lib Dems think a like-for-like replacement of Trident would be too expensive and the final decision about whether to go ahead with one has been postponed until after the 2015 general election. But, in an interview on the Today programme, Nick Harvey (pictured), the Lib Dem defence minister, said that the government was right to award the £1bn submarine contract now. I've taken the quote from PolitcsHome.The Lib Dems think a like-for-like replacement of Trident would be too expensive and the final decision about whether to go ahead with one has been postponed until after the 2015 general election. But, in an interview on the Today programme, Nick Harvey (pictured), the Lib Dem defence minister, said that the government was right to award the £1bn submarine contract now. I've taken the quote from PolitcsHome.

Yes, [this decision] did have to be taken now, and yes it is the right one. You've described this as simply being an order for new nuclear reactors, but half the money is renewing the infrastructure of the Rolls Royce facility at Derby, which simply has to be done – it's in need of a major renovation. And whatever submarines the UK is going to have in the future will need this facility to be modernised and brought up to 21st century standards.
Yes, [this decision] did have to be taken now, and yes it is the right one. You've described this as simply being an order for new nuclear reactors, but half the money is renewing the infrastructure of the Rolls Royce facility at Derby, which simply has to be done – it's in need of a major renovation. And whatever submarines the UK is going to have in the future will need this facility to be modernised and brought up to 21st century standards.
This is a facility to build nuclear engines, and whatever submarines we're going to have, and whatever we're going to do with them we will need to have modern reactors, and this is where they're going to be built.This is a facility to build nuclear engines, and whatever submarines we're going to have, and whatever we're going to do with them we will need to have modern reactors, and this is where they're going to be built.
Harvey also said if the government in 2016 decided not to go ahead with a Trident like-for-like replacement, the £1bn would not be wasted.Harvey also said if the government in 2016 decided not to go ahead with a Trident like-for-like replacement, the £1bn would not be wasted.
The money that has been committed today is a spend over an 11 year period, so if we decide in 2016 not to go ahead with some of these engines the government of the day would have to negotiate its way out of that, and give them some alternative work on the next submarine programme instead.The money that has been committed today is a spend over an 11 year period, so if we decide in 2016 not to go ahead with some of these engines the government of the day would have to negotiate its way out of that, and give them some alternative work on the next submarine programme instead.
8.50am: We thought we might be watching "Drachmageddon" this week. But, thanks to the voters in Greece, that particularly show has been postponed and instead those of us tuned in to the eurozone will be viewing another instalment of "Muddling through", the series that has been running for the last two years. As my colleague Martin Kettle argued in a good column recently, there's a lot to be said for muddling through - a much-underrated political strategy.8.50am: We thought we might be watching "Drachmageddon" this week. But, thanks to the voters in Greece, that particularly show has been postponed and instead those of us tuned in to the eurozone will be viewing another instalment of "Muddling through", the series that has been running for the last two years. As my colleague Martin Kettle argued in a good column recently, there's a lot to be said for muddling through - a much-underrated political strategy.
Those familiar with the eurozone's muddling through scenario will know that it often involves a speech from David Cameron saying This Cannot Go On and today Cameron will be deliving it in Mexico, where he is attending the G20 summit. My colleague Patrick Wintour has written a preview of the speech. Here's an extract from what Cameron will be saying.Those familiar with the eurozone's muddling through scenario will know that it often involves a speech from David Cameron saying This Cannot Go On and today Cameron will be deliving it in Mexico, where he is attending the G20 summit. My colleague Patrick Wintour has written a preview of the speech. Here's an extract from what Cameron will be saying.
The reality is that there are a set of things that eurozone countries need to do. And it's up to eurozone countries whether they are prepared to make the sacrifices these entail. The challenge is one of political will as much as economics. Of course these things are difficult to do, but just because these things are difficult does not mean we should not say them.The reality is that there are a set of things that eurozone countries need to do. And it's up to eurozone countries whether they are prepared to make the sacrifices these entail. The challenge is one of political will as much as economics. Of course these things are difficult to do, but just because these things are difficult does not mean we should not say them.
If the eurozone is to stay together then it has to make at least some of these difficult decisions. The alternatives to action that creates a more coherent eurozone are either a perpetual stagnation from a eurozone crisis that is never resolved or a break-up caused by a failure to address underlying economic fundamentals that would have financial consequences that would badly damage the world economy, including Britain.If the eurozone is to stay together then it has to make at least some of these difficult decisions. The alternatives to action that creates a more coherent eurozone are either a perpetual stagnation from a eurozone crisis that is never resolved or a break-up caused by a failure to address underlying economic fundamentals that would have financial consequences that would badly damage the world economy, including Britain.
There is more on the eurozone crisis on our eurozone live blog.There is more on the eurozone crisis on our eurozone live blog.
With Cameron at the G20, and the Greek election results dominating the headline, Westminster is not exactly where all the action is today. But I'm sure we'll manage. Here's the agenda.With Cameron at the G20, and the Greek election results dominating the headline, Westminster is not exactly where all the action is today. But I'm sure we'll manage. Here's the agenda.
8am: Vince Cable, the business secretary, gave a speech on Building Britain out of the Slump.8am: Vince Cable, the business secretary, gave a speech on Building Britain out of the Slump.
9am: Ed Milband gives a speech announcing Labour candidates for police and crime commissioners. He will also hold a Q&A.9am: Ed Milband gives a speech announcing Labour candidates for police and crime commissioners. He will also hold a Q&A.
Lunchtime: David Cameron arrives in Los Cabos, Mexico, for the G20 summit. As Patrick Wintour reports, he will give a speech saying that he eurozone risks facing perpetual economic stagnation from an unresolved crisis or a breakup caused by a failure to address its underlying economic failures.Lunchtime: David Cameron arrives in Los Cabos, Mexico, for the G20 summit. As Patrick Wintour reports, he will give a speech saying that he eurozone risks facing perpetual economic stagnation from an unresolved crisis or a breakup caused by a failure to address its underlying economic failures.
2.30pm: Michael Gove, the education secretary, takes questions in the Commons.2.30pm: Michael Gove, the education secretary, takes questions in the Commons.
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