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| Mountain Lion frustrates Apple fans attempting to upgrade system | Mountain Lion frustrates Apple fans attempting to upgrade system |
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| Today Apple released Mountain Lion, its newest desktop operating system, but users are facing a host of problems as they attempt to download the highly anticipated system. | Today Apple released Mountain Lion, its newest desktop operating system, but users are facing a host of problems as they attempt to download the highly anticipated system. |
| Apple announced that it would release Mountain Lion today during Tuesday's third quarter earnings call, where they attributed the lower than expected figures to rumors of new products. | Apple announced that it would release Mountain Lion today during Tuesday's third quarter earnings call, where they attributed the lower than expected figures to rumors of new products. |
| The announcement caused excitement in tech circles and Mac fans were on social media in a display of enthusiasm: | The announcement caused excitement in tech circles and Mac fans were on social media in a display of enthusiasm: |
| Ahhh Mountain Lion comes out tomorrow! Waiting til midnight to see if I can order it then :) #applefreak | Ahhh Mountain Lion comes out tomorrow! Waiting til midnight to see if I can order it then :) #applefreak |
| So who's camped outside their house all night waiting to be first in the Q at their MacBook to download OS X Mountain Lion? | So who's camped outside their house all night waiting to be first in the Q at their MacBook to download OS X Mountain Lion? |
| If you can get there, it's worth it, according to an an exhaustive 17-page review of the $19.99 operating system. The Next Web reports that Mountain Lion tries to unify Apple's desktop features with its incredibly popular mobile products. Critics are pleased with the results – especially its wallet-friendly pricing – but as users attempted to download the new system this morning, they faced several downloading issues. | If you can get there, it's worth it, according to an an exhaustive 17-page review of the $19.99 operating system. The Next Web reports that Mountain Lion tries to unify Apple's desktop features with its incredibly popular mobile products. Critics are pleased with the results – especially its wallet-friendly pricing – but as users attempted to download the new system this morning, they faced several downloading issues. |
| If I get 'error 100' one more time I'm going to eat something!! Potentially a Mars bar. | If I get 'error 100' one more time I'm going to eat something!! Potentially a Mars bar. |
| After closing my account, closing MAS, deleting Safari cookies and rebooting my Mac 9673 times I still get the Error 100. Not nice, Apple :( | After closing my account, closing MAS, deleting Safari cookies and rebooting my Mac 9673 times I still get the Error 100. Not nice, Apple :( |
| Error 100 trying to download Mountain Lion, don't Apple ever plan for the bandwidth needed during big updates? | Error 100 trying to download Mountain Lion, don't Apple ever plan for the bandwidth needed during big updates? |
| Apple sent me (and countless other users) a faulty Mountain Lion redeem code. Says "already been used." 45 mins with phone support, no joy. | Apple sent me (and countless other users) a faulty Mountain Lion redeem code. Says "already been used." 45 mins with phone support, no joy. |
| problems with mountain lion huh? shoulda got windows | problems with mountain lion huh? shoulda got windows |
| For those getting an Error 100, an iOS and OSX developer posted these troubleshooting directions online. | For those getting an Error 100, an iOS and OSX developer posted these troubleshooting directions online. |
| If your redemption code is not working, the MacRumors forum is collecting responses from users with the same problem. | If your redemption code is not working, the MacRumors forum is collecting responses from users with the same problem. |
| On Twitter, New Mountain Lion users shared their initial takes on the new operating system: | On Twitter, New Mountain Lion users shared their initial takes on the new operating system: |
| I sketched my review of Mac OSX Mountain Lion: twitter.com/SamSpratt/stat… | I sketched my review of Mac OSX Mountain Lion: twitter.com/SamSpratt/stat… |
| First impressions are if u use Google & Dropbox for most of ur online life…there's really very little to get excited about in Mountain Lion. | First impressions are if u use Google & Dropbox for most of ur online life…there's really very little to get excited about in Mountain Lion. |
| Already loving Mountain Lion. Notification Center is slick and the new Safari is FAST. | Already loving Mountain Lion. Notification Center is slick and the new Safari is FAST. |
| which of these 200 Features in Mountain Lion is worth to upgrade? #stillsearching | which of these 200 Features in Mountain Lion is worth to upgrade? #stillsearching |
| Did you download Mountain Lion? Have any tips on how to work around the bugs? Is it worth the pain? Tell us more... | Did you download Mountain Lion? Have any tips on how to work around the bugs? Is it worth the pain? Tell us more... |
| Comments | Comments |
| 98 comments, displaying first | 98 comments, displaying first |
| 25 July 2012 5:44PM | 25 July 2012 5:44PM |
| Have some patience you tools. | Have some patience you tools. |
| It's only just come out. Of course people will be hammering the servers. | It's only just come out. Of course people will be hammering the servers. |
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| 25 July 2012 5:57PM | 25 July 2012 5:57PM |
| One does not download Mountain Lion from iTunes. | One does not download Mountain Lion from iTunes. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:09PM | 25 July 2012 6:09PM |
| What ^ said: you need to fix your sub-heading, unless there really are people getting frustrated trying to update via iTunes, with good reason... | What ^ said: you need to fix your sub-heading, unless there really are people getting frustrated trying to update via iTunes, with good reason... |
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| 25 July 2012 6:10PM | 25 July 2012 6:10PM |
| FYI - it is downloaded from the App Store not from iTunes as stated in your article. | FYI - it is downloaded from the App Store not from iTunes as stated in your article. |
| It took me two hours to download, and less than ten minutes to install and get running. So far so good! | It took me two hours to download, and less than ten minutes to install and get running. So far so good! |
| I saw the error 100 a couple of times, but just waited patiently in line with everyone else - it is only to be expected when demand is this hi. | I saw the error 100 a couple of times, but just waited patiently in line with everyone else - it is only to be expected when demand is this hi. |
| Even with my mediocre 5 meg internet connection, i was pretty happy with how simple the whole process has been from start to finish. Well done Apple! | Even with my mediocre 5 meg internet connection, i was pretty happy with how simple the whole process has been from start to finish. Well done Apple! |
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| 25 July 2012 6:11PM | 25 July 2012 6:11PM |
| One More Thing: two problems, the number you detail, does not equal "a host of problems". | One More Thing: two problems, the number you detail, does not equal "a host of problems". |
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| 25 July 2012 6:16PM | 25 July 2012 6:16PM |
| It just works. | It just works. |
| *snicker* | *snicker* |
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| 25 July 2012 6:22PM | 25 July 2012 6:22PM |
| Can't remember seeing an "error xxx" when downlading W8CP immediatly when it was released. Maybe Apple can hire some bandwidth from Microsoft? | Can't remember seeing an "error xxx" when downlading W8CP immediatly when it was released. Maybe Apple can hire some bandwidth from Microsoft? |
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| 25 July 2012 6:27PM | 25 July 2012 6:27PM |
| So Apple charges $20 every year for what amount to service packs, said service packs break older software (assuming the user was even able to install it), and yet I'm expected to believe that Macs are better because "they just work." Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. | So Apple charges $20 every year for what amount to service packs, said service packs break older software (assuming the user was even able to install it), and yet I'm expected to believe that Macs are better because "they just work." Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:37PM | 25 July 2012 6:37PM |
| Yes had to wait about an hour after the US started downloading theirs but eventually it went fine and fast, download about 20 mins, install about 30mins, up and running now with no problems, well worth the £!4. | Yes had to wait about an hour after the US started downloading theirs but eventually it went fine and fast, download about 20 mins, install about 30mins, up and running now with no problems, well worth the £!4. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:40PM | 25 July 2012 6:40PM |
| Downloaded and installed without a problem. Mountain Lion is definitely worth £13.99, it's a fantastic update to an already brilliant OS. | Downloaded and installed without a problem. Mountain Lion is definitely worth £13.99, it's a fantastic update to an already brilliant OS. |
| P.S. Charles - if people are really trying to download Mountain Lion through iTunes, I expect they will be waiting a very long time... | P.S. Charles - if people are really trying to download Mountain Lion through iTunes, I expect they will be waiting a very long time... |
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| 25 July 2012 6:48PM | 25 July 2012 6:48PM |
| It isn't a service pack - service packs are fre, updates to OS X are free. This is a new version of OS X like Windows 8 is a new version of Windows. It is £13.99 and there are over 200 new features. Windows 8 will be four times the price and per machine - I can install Mountain Lion on every Mac I own for just £13.99. | It isn't a service pack - service packs are fre, updates to OS X are free. This is a new version of OS X like Windows 8 is a new version of Windows. It is £13.99 and there are over 200 new features. Windows 8 will be four times the price and per machine - I can install Mountain Lion on every Mac I own for just £13.99. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:49PM | 25 July 2012 6:49PM |
| I waited an hour and now have it running on my iMac and MacBook pro - iCloud has synced up the two machines, my iPhone and my iPad - everything is in sync and is working perfectly. | I waited an hour and now have it running on my iMac and MacBook pro - iCloud has synced up the two machines, my iPhone and my iPad - everything is in sync and is working perfectly. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:57PM | 25 July 2012 6:57PM |
| Oh *dear* Amanda? A host of problems? What, a totally predictable bandwidth bottleneck that will sort itself out in a few hours, and some incorrect codes that I read elsewhere are being reissued at this very second? | Oh *dear* Amanda? A host of problems? What, a totally predictable bandwidth bottleneck that will sort itself out in a few hours, and some incorrect codes that I read elsewhere are being reissued at this very second? |
| Yes, it was a total clusterfuck, wasn't it? Not. | Yes, it was a total clusterfuck, wasn't it? Not. |
| And like everyone already said you don't get it from iTunes. Come on. | And like everyone already said you don't get it from iTunes. Come on. |
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| 25 July 2012 6:58PM | 25 July 2012 6:58PM |
| Troll posts troll post, hopes for recommends. | Troll posts troll post, hopes for recommends. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:17PM | 25 July 2012 7:17PM |
| After waiting for about 30 mins it was a smooth upgrade to ML. All my Apple devices are now synced and seems fully integrated now. As usual, no application incomptibilities or breakages. Few of them prompted for an update and they too were pretty smooth! | After waiting for about 30 mins it was a smooth upgrade to ML. All my Apple devices are now synced and seems fully integrated now. As usual, no application incomptibilities or breakages. Few of them prompted for an update and they too were pretty smooth! |
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| 25 July 2012 7:26PM | 25 July 2012 7:26PM |
| Apple's loving farewell kiss to the Intel-Mac early adopters. | Apple's loving farewell kiss to the Intel-Mac early adopters. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:29PM | 25 July 2012 7:29PM |
| Jammers20 25 July 2012 6:48PM Response to SmitMshah, 25 July 2012 6:27PM | Jammers20 25 July 2012 6:48PM Response to SmitMshah, 25 July 2012 6:27PM |
| I can install Mountain Lion on every Mac I own for just £13.99. | I can install Mountain Lion on every Mac I own for just £13.99. |
| Which they offset with charging you silly amounts for the hardware you install it on. Really now. You think Apple are thieves of their own pockets? | Which they offset with charging you silly amounts for the hardware you install it on. Really now. You think Apple are thieves of their own pockets? |
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| 25 July 2012 7:35PM | 25 July 2012 7:35PM |
| Answer for everything, eh, rquick? Yawn. | Answer for everything, eh, rquick? Yawn. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:38PM | 25 July 2012 7:38PM |
| meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 6:57PM | meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 6:57PM |
| Oh *dear* Amanda? A host of problems? What, a totally predictable bandwidth bottleneck that will sort itself out in a few hours, and some incorrect codes that I read elsewhere are being reissued at this very second? | Oh *dear* Amanda? A host of problems? What, a totally predictable bandwidth bottleneck that will sort itself out in a few hours, and some incorrect codes that I read elsewhere are being reissued at this very second? |
| Yes, it was a total clusterfuck, wasn't it? Not. | Yes, it was a total clusterfuck, wasn't it? Not. |
| The list of problems during installation is growing by the minute meestersmeeth. See the usual https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/os_x_mountain_lion | The list of problems during installation is growing by the minute meestersmeeth. See the usual https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/os_x_mountain_lion |
| Granted, some issues are solved with some resetting, but - Mountain Lion does not recognize my Time Machine backup - Mountain Lion keeps logging user out - Problem with Restart | Granted, some issues are solved with some resetting, but - Mountain Lion does not recognize my Time Machine backup - Mountain Lion keeps logging user out - Problem with Restart |
| To pick a few, look slightly more problematic. | To pick a few, look slightly more problematic. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:39PM | 25 July 2012 7:39PM |
| Maybe you were just lucky. I have downloaded ML twice today and had zero issues. | Maybe you were just lucky. I have downloaded ML twice today and had zero issues. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:40PM | 25 July 2012 7:40PM |
| meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 7:35PM | meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 7:35PM |
| Answer for everything, eh, rquick? Yawn. | Answer for everything, eh, rquick? Yawn. |
| Errr, "hear hear"? Pot, kettle, black? He who is without sin...? etc etc. | Errr, "hear hear"? Pot, kettle, black? He who is without sin...? etc etc. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:41PM | 25 July 2012 7:41PM |
| Well of course that thread is growing. That's where everyone that has a problem is going to moan. I don't see why that's any reason to somehow frame the whole thing as a disaster; people with issues will moan, and loudly, on the internet. Big deal. Try again later. The world isn't going to end in the meantime. | Well of course that thread is growing. That's where everyone that has a problem is going to moan. I don't see why that's any reason to somehow frame the whole thing as a disaster; people with issues will moan, and loudly, on the internet. Big deal. Try again later. The world isn't going to end in the meantime. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:45PM | 25 July 2012 7:45PM |
| You're the one framing every single hiccup that every single user in a minority group of those with 'some kind of issue' is experiencing as a Major Disaster, and gloating over it. There's someone like you on every tech site, who thinks that if some people have issues, EVERYONE has issues. | You're the one framing every single hiccup that every single user in a minority group of those with 'some kind of issue' is experiencing as a Major Disaster, and gloating over it. There's someone like you on every tech site, who thinks that if some people have issues, EVERYONE has issues. |
| I have news for you. Not everyone has issues. In fact I was using beta releases of ML for weeks without issues. Some people just have bad luck with their setup. Happens with every flavour of every OS for every machine by any manufacturer you care to mention, ever, whenever there's a big release, and there's always someone who uses a different kind of macine ready to gloat. | I have news for you. Not everyone has issues. In fact I was using beta releases of ML for weeks without issues. Some people just have bad luck with their setup. Happens with every flavour of every OS for every machine by any manufacturer you care to mention, ever, whenever there's a big release, and there's always someone who uses a different kind of macine ready to gloat. |
| I expect next you'll wander away sniggering "it just works" like you won some kind of battle :) | I expect next you'll wander away sniggering "it just works" like you won some kind of battle :) |
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| 25 July 2012 7:52PM | 25 July 2012 7:52PM |
| @meestersmeeth | @meestersmeeth |
| I didn't say it is a disaster. Every O.S. upgrade has it's issues. But like I said in the other article, Apple's releases are getting more buggy. Nothing disastrous yet, but still, they are straying from their perfection. | I didn't say it is a disaster. Every O.S. upgrade has it's issues. But like I said in the other article, Apple's releases are getting more buggy. Nothing disastrous yet, but still, they are straying from their perfection. |
| The only thing which is pathetic, is that they simply haven't got enough bandwidth to deal with all the downloads. It's the same issue with every major release. With this in mind, people should realise that this is the problem if their download doesn't start of shows errors, and simply try later, as like you said, the world isn't going to end if you can't download ML. | The only thing which is pathetic, is that they simply haven't got enough bandwidth to deal with all the downloads. It's the same issue with every major release. With this in mind, people should realise that this is the problem if their download doesn't start of shows errors, and simply try later, as like you said, the world isn't going to end if you can't download ML. |
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| 25 July 2012 7:54PM | 25 July 2012 7:54PM |
| Well, I've downloaded and installed ML with no issues in my MBA 2011 and MBA 2010. I think if you check the tendencies in Tweeter, there are more positive tweets than negative, but still ML is working fine, no 100 error or whatsoever... perhaps I'm the only human being to claim it... oh wait, for the rest it worked, too so they don't have to claim it... :) | Well, I've downloaded and installed ML with no issues in my MBA 2011 and MBA 2010. I think if you check the tendencies in Tweeter, there are more positive tweets than negative, but still ML is working fine, no 100 error or whatsoever... perhaps I'm the only human being to claim it... oh wait, for the rest it worked, too so they don't have to claim it... :) |
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| 25 July 2012 7:58PM | 25 July 2012 7:58PM |
| meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 7:45PM | meestersmeeth 25 July 2012 7:45PM |
| You're the one framing every single hiccup that every single user in a minority group of those with 'some kind of issue' is experiencing as a Major Disaster, and gloating over it. There's someone like you on every tech site, who thinks that if some people have issues, EVERYONE has issues. | You're the one framing every single hiccup that every single user in a minority group of those with 'some kind of issue' is experiencing as a Major Disaster, and gloating over it. There's someone like you on every tech site, who thinks that if some people have issues, EVERYONE has issues. |
| You're funny meestersmeeth. Generally you are in the "it just works" category. When I look in the Apple user forums, peek in the update releases, and listen to the moaning of our system admins. I have told you this before, and I am telling you this again as we are in the same situation: the fact that your updating went well, doesn't mean that it will go well for everyone else. The majority will have no issues, but Mac-users seem to be less aware of the risks of updating an operating system, so it's better to be warned about discovered issues, and know if it can affect you. | You're funny meestersmeeth. Generally you are in the "it just works" category. When I look in the Apple user forums, peek in the update releases, and listen to the moaning of our system admins. I have told you this before, and I am telling you this again as we are in the same situation: the fact that your updating went well, doesn't mean that it will go well for everyone else. The majority will have no issues, but Mac-users seem to be less aware of the risks of updating an operating system, so it's better to be warned about discovered issues, and know if it can affect you. |
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| 25 July 2012 8:05PM | 25 July 2012 8:05PM |
| The only thing which is pathetic, is that they simply haven't got enough bandwidth to deal with all the downloads. | The only thing which is pathetic, is that they simply haven't got enough bandwidth to deal with all the downloads. |
It's to be expected really. Downloading the OS is so easy nowadays. You go to the App store app. Click the icon and it starts. Meaning that a huge chunk of the Mac community starts at pretty much the same time. For me I had the 'try again later' error and it went away when I tried at a less peak time an hour or so later. | It's to be expected really. Downloading the OS is so easy nowadays. You go to the App store app. Click the icon and it starts. Meaning that a huge chunk of the Mac community starts at pretty much the same time. For me I had the 'try again later' error and it went away when I tried at a less peak time an hour or so later. |
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| 25 July 2012 8:08PM | 25 July 2012 8:08PM |
| But like I said in the other article, Apple's releases are getting more buggy. | But like I said in the other article, Apple's releases are getting more buggy. |
But you've got to have some kind of objective measure to make this kind of claim. So how in bugginess do say the last 2 OS releases compare to say MobileMe? | But you've got to have some kind of objective measure to make this kind of claim. So how in bugginess do say the last 2 OS releases compare to say MobileMe? |
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| 25 July 2012 8:16PM | 25 July 2012 8:16PM |
| Mountain Lion downloaded quickly for me. Installed perfectly okay. My 2011 iMac is running even faster than before. | Mountain Lion downloaded quickly for me. Installed perfectly okay. My 2011 iMac is running even faster than before. |
| No news here. Why not make up a story instead? | No news here. Why not make up a story instead? |
| And Windoze users: you just don't get it. Which is what makes you Windoze users. | And Windoze users: you just don't get it. Which is what makes you Windoze users. |
| *cue outraged clicking of clunky keyboards* | *cue outraged clicking of clunky keyboards* |
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| 25 July 2012 8:21PM | 25 July 2012 8:21PM |
| Been upgrading all the way through from 10.1 to 10.8 with no real problems, just a few out of date apps and preference panes. There will be some people in the millions of up-graders that will have problems. This is usually resolved with a clean install. People install all sorts of stuff, hard drives get corrupted as do files in the course of a year. They go onto Apple discussions to get help and usually find help. There is no story here. I hope win8 goes a smooth. | Been upgrading all the way through from 10.1 to 10.8 with no real problems, just a few out of date apps and preference panes. There will be some people in the millions of up-graders that will have problems. This is usually resolved with a clean install. People install all sorts of stuff, hard drives get corrupted as do files in the course of a year. They go onto Apple discussions to get help and usually find help. There is no story here. I hope win8 goes a smooth. |
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| 25 July 2012 8:32PM | 25 July 2012 8:32PM |
| Less aware than whom? Most Mac users are probably former (and very likely current) Windows users, so I don't see that they would me any less aware of the issues than you or I. OS X is an operating system, written by humans, packaged by humans, just as z/OS, Windows, or AIX are. So of course we need to be able to find out what problems others have had and learn from their experience. But meestersmeeth is right that some people (not you!) do seem to gloat at the problems that others have with different products from the ones they use. A depressing side to human nature, and one that I am guilty of only in the context of football. | Less aware than whom? Most Mac users are probably former (and very likely current) Windows users, so I don't see that they would me any less aware of the issues than you or I. OS X is an operating system, written by humans, packaged by humans, just as z/OS, Windows, or AIX are. So of course we need to be able to find out what problems others have had and learn from their experience. But meestersmeeth is right that some people (not you!) do seem to gloat at the problems that others have with different products from the ones they use. A depressing side to human nature, and one that I am guilty of only in the context of football. |
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| 25 July 2012 8:43PM | 25 July 2012 8:43PM |
| Usually trolling BS - spec up similar machines and you won't get a price too different - as an example the Ultrabooks cannot touch a MacBook Air for specs, build quality or support. You also forget that your Windows laptop is more or less worthless in 3 years time - I can sell my MacBook pro 3 years old for £700. | Usually trolling BS - spec up similar machines and you won't get a price too different - as an example the Ultrabooks cannot touch a MacBook Air for specs, build quality or support. You also forget that your Windows laptop is more or less worthless in 3 years time - I can sell my MacBook pro 3 years old for £700. |
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| 25 July 2012 8:51PM | 25 July 2012 8:51PM |
| ...Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. | ...Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. |
| I'm no Windows fan, but surely you don't get Windows for $30. A quick look at microsoft.com show me that they charge $119.99 for Windows Home Premium. | I'm no Windows fan, but surely you don't get Windows for $30. A quick look at microsoft.com show me that they charge $119.99 for Windows Home Premium. |
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| 25 July 2012 9:05PM | 25 July 2012 9:05PM |
| Ha oh this is funny, no I get it, oh dear I'm not going to be able to stop chuckling on this one it's so multi layered and creative. | Ha oh this is funny, no I get it, oh dear I'm not going to be able to stop chuckling on this one it's so multi layered and creative. |
| WindoZe, like dozy, foolish clunky keyboards because it's for people who have no money, those silly poor people | WindoZe, like dozy, foolish clunky keyboards because it's for people who have no money, those silly poor people |
| Ha, I like you Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett | Ha, I like you Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett |
| Oh but wait hang on now a sec last week o2 services went down for millions but not me, why did people write about that as if it was a big deal? None of my o2 services went down yet others did and they complained, why when mine was fine. Oh dear, I think I've realised that Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett is not as clever as I first imagined. | Oh but wait hang on now a sec last week o2 services went down for millions but not me, why did people write about that as if it was a big deal? None of my o2 services went down yet others did and they complained, why when mine was fine. Oh dear, I think I've realised that Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett is not as clever as I first imagined. |
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| 25 July 2012 9:08PM | 25 July 2012 9:08PM |
| You have to pay for an upgrade? | You have to pay for an upgrade? |
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| 25 July 2012 9:11PM | 25 July 2012 9:11PM |
| Mine has been saying waiting for the longest.... | Mine has been saying waiting for the longest.... |
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| 25 July 2012 9:37PM | 25 July 2012 9:37PM |
| When a popular version of linux called ubuntu is released , the demand is high and the traditional servers can sometimes be overloaded.Thankfully its also released via bit torrent ,this is very useful as it spreads the load across many more machines to cope much better. | When a popular version of linux called ubuntu is released , the demand is high and the traditional servers can sometimes be overloaded.Thankfully its also released via bit torrent ,this is very useful as it spreads the load across many more machines to cope much better. |
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| 25 July 2012 9:53PM | 25 July 2012 9:53PM |
| Which they offset with charging you silly amounts for the hardware you install it on. Really now. You think Apple are thieves of their own pockets? | Which they offset with charging you silly amounts for the hardware you install it on. Really now. You think Apple are thieves of their own pockets? |
| MBP = expensive iMac = not expensive | MBP = expensive iMac = not expensive |
| In my humble opinion of course | In my humble opinion of course |
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| 25 July 2012 10:00PM | 25 July 2012 10:00PM |
| Integrating Facebok and Twitter into the core OS, now where have I seen that before. Its a good job Microsoft are more friendly than Apple is with Samsung. | Integrating Facebok and Twitter into the core OS, now where have I seen that before. Its a good job Microsoft are more friendly than Apple is with Samsung. |
| But £20 per year for a decent OSX upgrade, is probably better value than £100+ every three years for Windows upgrade, and can acccept that typicaly OSX probably works better on the narrow Mac based system hardware base. It will be interesting to see if Windows 8 will be any more reliable. So far its looking pretty rock solid, and I would expect MS servers to be similarly overloaded on Release day. | But £20 per year for a decent OSX upgrade, is probably better value than £100+ every three years for Windows upgrade, and can acccept that typicaly OSX probably works better on the narrow Mac based system hardware base. It will be interesting to see if Windows 8 will be any more reliable. So far its looking pretty rock solid, and I would expect MS servers to be similarly overloaded on Release day. |
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| 25 July 2012 10:31PM | 25 July 2012 10:31PM |
| So Apple charges $20 every year for what amount to service packs, said service packs break older software (assuming the user was even able to install it), and yet I'm expected to believe that Macs are better because "they just work." Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. | So Apple charges $20 every year for what amount to service packs, said service packs break older software (assuming the user was even able to install it), and yet I'm expected to believe that Macs are better because "they just work." Thanks but no thanks, I'll pay $30 once for Win7 over $20 every year for OSX. |
| Pure comedy gold, the old 'service packs' line from a Windows fan about Mac OS X. Releasing Mountain Lion just one year after Lion is a new approach for Apple but that's reflected in the low price. Apple release the equivalent of Microsofts service packs on a regular basis, for free. That's why Tiger finished on 10.4.11 (11 free updates), Leopard finished on 10.5.8, Snow Leopard on 10.6.8, even Lion has reached 10.7.4. | Pure comedy gold, the old 'service packs' line from a Windows fan about Mac OS X. Releasing Mountain Lion just one year after Lion is a new approach for Apple but that's reflected in the low price. Apple release the equivalent of Microsofts service packs on a regular basis, for free. That's why Tiger finished on 10.4.11 (11 free updates), Leopard finished on 10.5.8, Snow Leopard on 10.6.8, even Lion has reached 10.7.4. |
| We get it you are a Windows fan, good for you, but please stop spouting this nonsense about Mac OS X when you clearly don't have a clue about it. | We get it you are a Windows fan, good for you, but please stop spouting this nonsense about Mac OS X when you clearly don't have a clue about it. |
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| 25 July 2012 10:33PM | 25 July 2012 10:33PM |
| You have to pay for an upgrade? | You have to pay for an upgrade? |
| It is a new version of Mac OS X, not an upgrade. I'm guessing Microsoft will ask you to pay for Windows8? | It is a new version of Mac OS X, not an upgrade. I'm guessing Microsoft will ask you to pay for Windows8? |
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| 25 July 2012 10:36PM | 25 July 2012 10:36PM |
| apart from the inevitable teething problems about, there are loads of people wishing they had the chance of teething troubles | apart from the inevitable teething problems about, there are loads of people wishing they had the chance of teething troubles |
| come and share your grief if you have an orphaned MacPro | come and share your grief if you have an orphaned MacPro |
| https://www.facebook.com/AppleBringMountainLionSupportToEarlyMacPros | https://www.facebook.com/AppleBringMountainLionSupportToEarlyMacPros |
| lets hope apple listens to the needy :-) | lets hope apple listens to the needy :-) |
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| 25 July 2012 10:37PM | 25 July 2012 10:37PM |
| https://www.facebook.com/AppleBringMountainLionSupportToEarlyMacPros | https://www.facebook.com/AppleBringMountainLionSupportToEarlyMacPros |
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| 25 July 2012 10:45PM | 25 July 2012 10:45PM |
| Had three crashes in two years with Windows 7 on my cheapish Acer laptop. | Had three crashes in two years with Windows 7 on my cheapish Acer laptop. |
| Don't get me started on Vista though..... | Don't get me started on Vista though..... |
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| 25 July 2012 10:55PM | 25 July 2012 10:55PM |
| do you have to pay for the same system with a UI which you can switch off???... 4 times this "upgrade"?... talking about sad things... | do you have to pay for the same system with a UI which you can switch off???... 4 times this "upgrade"?... talking about sad things... |
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| 25 July 2012 10:58PM | 25 July 2012 10:58PM |
| I've just installed it this evening with no problems. Took about 1.5 hours altogether. I did think about leaving off for a bit as there would be such high demand. Which there is bound to be for a low cost update that is so easy to install. I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning! | I've just installed it this evening with no problems. Took about 1.5 hours altogether. I did think about leaving off for a bit as there would be such high demand. Which there is bound to be for a low cost update that is so easy to install. I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning! |
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| 25 July 2012 11:58PM | 25 July 2012 11:58PM |
| Jamie Kelly "Downloaded and installed without a problem. Mountain Lion is definitely worth £13.99, it's a fantastic update to an already brilliant OS." | Jamie Kelly "Downloaded and installed without a problem. Mountain Lion is definitely worth £13.99, it's a fantastic update to an already brilliant OS." |
| Guy with Apple logo avatar thinks Apple OS is "brilliant". Hold the front page! | Guy with Apple logo avatar thinks Apple OS is "brilliant". Hold the front page! |
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| 25 July 2012 11:59PM | 25 July 2012 11:59PM |
| tspsugar "I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning!" | tspsugar "I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning!" |
| No, you didn't. | No, you didn't. |
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| 26 July 2012 12:11AM | 26 July 2012 12:11AM |
| tspsugar "I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning!" | tspsugar "I left my work windows PC installing updates the other day and it was still doing it the next morning!" |
| No, you didn't. | No, you didn't. |
| Did you see him?... just asking, if you are able to said such a fact... just saying | Did you see him?... just asking, if you are able to said such a fact... just saying |
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| 26 July 2012 12:11AM | 26 July 2012 12:11AM |
| Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett "And Windoze users: you just don't get it." | Andrew Hinkinson-Hodnett "And Windoze users: you just don't get it." |
| Thank fuck. | Thank fuck. |
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| iOS 6: what to expect - and not to expect from Apple's WWDC 2012 | iOS 6: what to expect - and not to expect from Apple's WWDC 2012 |
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| Apple newest desktop operating system is causing several problems as users attempt to download it • Apple releases OSX 10.8: here's what reviewers say | Apple newest desktop operating system is causing several problems as users attempt to download it • Apple releases OSX 10.8: here's what reviewers say |
| Today Apple released Mountain Lion, its newest desktop operating system, but users are facing a host of problems as they attempt to download the highly anticipated system. | Today Apple released Mountain Lion, its newest desktop operating system, but users are facing a host of problems as they attempt to download the highly anticipated system. |
| Apple announced that it would release Mountain Lion today during Tuesday's third quarter earnings call, where they attributed the lower than expected figures to rumors of new products. | Apple announced that it would release Mountain Lion today during Tuesday's third quarter earnings call, where they attributed the lower than expected figures to rumors of new products. |
| The announcement caused excitement in tech circles and Mac fans were on social media in a display of enthusiasm: | The announcement caused excitement in tech circles and Mac fans were on social media in a display of enthusiasm: |
| Ahhh Mountain Lion comes out tomorrow! Waiting til midnight to see if I can order it then :) #applefreak | Ahhh Mountain Lion comes out tomorrow! Waiting til midnight to see if I can order it then :) #applefreak |
| So who's camped outside their house all night waiting to be first in the Q at their MacBook to download OS X Mountain Lion? | So who's camped outside their house all night waiting to be first in the Q at their MacBook to download OS X Mountain Lion? |
| If you can get there, it's worth it, according to an an exhaustive 17-page review of the $19.99 operating system. The Next Web reports that Mountain Lion tries to unify Apple's desktop features with its incredibly popular mobile products. Critics are pleased with the results – especially its wallet-friendly pricing – but as users attempted to download the new system this morning, they faced several downloading issues. | If you can get there, it's worth it, according to an an exhaustive 17-page review of the $19.99 operating system. The Next Web reports that Mountain Lion tries to unify Apple's desktop features with its incredibly popular mobile products. Critics are pleased with the results – especially its wallet-friendly pricing – but as users attempted to download the new system this morning, they faced several downloading issues. |
| If I get 'error 100' one more time I'm going to eat something!! Potentially a Mars bar. | If I get 'error 100' one more time I'm going to eat something!! Potentially a Mars bar. |
| After closing my account, closing MAS, deleting Safari cookies and rebooting my Mac 9673 times I still get the Error 100. Not nice, Apple :( | After closing my account, closing MAS, deleting Safari cookies and rebooting my Mac 9673 times I still get the Error 100. Not nice, Apple :( |
| Error 100 trying to download Mountain Lion, don't Apple ever plan for the bandwidth needed during big updates? | Error 100 trying to download Mountain Lion, don't Apple ever plan for the bandwidth needed during big updates? |
| Apple sent me (and countless other users) a faulty Mountain Lion redeem code. Says "already been used." 45 mins with phone support, no joy. | Apple sent me (and countless other users) a faulty Mountain Lion redeem code. Says "already been used." 45 mins with phone support, no joy. |
| problems with mountain lion huh? shoulda got windows | problems with mountain lion huh? shoulda got windows |
| For those getting an Error 100, an iOS and OSX developer posted these troubleshooting directions online. | For those getting an Error 100, an iOS and OSX developer posted these troubleshooting directions online. |
| If your redemption code is not working, the MacRumors forum is collecting responses from users with the same problem. | If your redemption code is not working, the MacRumors forum is collecting responses from users with the same problem. |
| On Twitter, New Mountain Lion users shared their initial takes on the new operating system: | On Twitter, New Mountain Lion users shared their initial takes on the new operating system: |
| I sketched my review of Mac OSX Mountain Lion: twitter.com/SamSpratt/stat… | I sketched my review of Mac OSX Mountain Lion: twitter.com/SamSpratt/stat… |
| First impressions are if u use Google & Dropbox for most of ur online life…there's really very little to get excited about in Mountain Lion. | First impressions are if u use Google & Dropbox for most of ur online life…there's really very little to get excited about in Mountain Lion. |
| Already loving Mountain Lion. Notification Center is slick and the new Safari is FAST. | Already loving Mountain Lion. Notification Center is slick and the new Safari is FAST. |
| which of these 200 Features in Mountain Lion is worth to upgrade? #stillsearching | which of these 200 Features in Mountain Lion is worth to upgrade? #stillsearching |
| Did you download Mountain Lion? Have any tips on how to work around the bugs? Is it worth the pain? Tell us more... | Did you download Mountain Lion? Have any tips on how to work around the bugs? Is it worth the pain? Tell us more... |