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| Unity call as Afghan jirga opens | Unity call as Afghan jirga opens |
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| Afghanistan must work with Pakistan to defeat Islamic militants, President Hamid Karzai has told hundreds of tribal leaders at a key peace summit. | Afghanistan must work with Pakistan to defeat Islamic militants, President Hamid Karzai has told hundreds of tribal leaders at a key peace summit. |
| The Afghan leader was opening the three-day "peace jirga" or tribal council, on combating the Taleban and al-Qaeda, in the Afghan capital Kabul. | The Afghan leader was opening the three-day "peace jirga" or tribal council, on combating the Taleban and al-Qaeda, in the Afghan capital Kabul. |
| He told 700 Afghan and Pakistani delegates of their "common destiny". | He told 700 Afghan and Pakistani delegates of their "common destiny". |
| Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, who was to attend, had pulled out citing other commitments. | Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, who was to attend, had pulled out citing other commitments. |
| But Mr Karzai was upbeat as he opened the jirga - in a huge tent - saying it brought together "brother nations". | But Mr Karzai was upbeat as he opened the jirga - in a huge tent - saying it brought together "brother nations". |
| "I am confident, I believe... if both Afghanistan and Pakistan put their hands together, we will eliminate in one day oppression against both nations," he said. | "I am confident, I believe... if both Afghanistan and Pakistan put their hands together, we will eliminate in one day oppression against both nations," he said. |
| "If the problem is from the Afghanistan side, we should seek ways to solve it. If the problem is in Pakistan, we should find solutions for it. | "If the problem is from the Afghanistan side, we should seek ways to solve it. If the problem is in Pakistan, we should find solutions for it. |
| "Our future and our destiny is intertwined," he said. | "Our future and our destiny is intertwined," he said. |
| Although the Afghan president did not mention the recent kidnapping of a group of South Koreans, he denounced the kidnapping of women. | Although the Afghan president did not mention the recent kidnapping of a group of South Koreans, he denounced the kidnapping of women. |
| "Never in Afghanistan's history has anyone kidnapped women. Even robbers would back off when they found women in a caravan, respecting their dignity and honour." | "Never in Afghanistan's history has anyone kidnapped women. Even robbers would back off when they found women in a caravan, respecting their dignity and honour." |
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| Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz - who came to the meeting instead of President Musharraf - welcomed President Karzai's comments. | Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz - who came to the meeting instead of President Musharraf - welcomed President Karzai's comments. |
| "Terrorism, militancy, the violent creed preached by al-Qaeda, extremism and Talebanisation represent pain, intolerance and backwardness in our societies and a phenomenon that has maligned our great and noble faith, Islam," he said. | "Terrorism, militancy, the violent creed preached by al-Qaeda, extremism and Talebanisation represent pain, intolerance and backwardness in our societies and a phenomenon that has maligned our great and noble faith, Islam," he said. |
| "They are not the future of Pakistan or Afghanistan. We must fight these dark forces with determination and resolve," he said. | "They are not the future of Pakistan or Afghanistan. We must fight these dark forces with determination and resolve," he said. |
| Waziristan | Waziristan |
| Afghan officials often accuse Pakistan of harbouring Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters, but Islamabad has strongly denied the charge, pointing out that it has arrested several senior militant leaders and is battling its own Taleban threat in its tribal areas. | Afghan officials often accuse Pakistan of harbouring Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters, but Islamabad has strongly denied the charge, pointing out that it has arrested several senior militant leaders and is battling its own Taleban threat in its tribal areas. |
| This is only a display, which cannot produce the true views of the Afghan people Abdul Ghafoor HaideriSecretary General, Pakistan's Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam class="" href="/1/hi/talking_point/6940842.stm">Readers' reaction | |
| Around 175 Pakistani officials, politicians and tribal elders are attending the jirga. | Around 175 Pakistani officials, politicians and tribal elders are attending the jirga. |
| However, tribal elders from Waziristan, the Pakistani region from which much of the instability stems, refused to attend. | However, tribal elders from Waziristan, the Pakistani region from which much of the instability stems, refused to attend. |
| The BBC's Alistair Leithead in Kabul says that must mean there will be questions over just how much of a difference the jirga can make in reducing the effectiveness of the insurgents that operate across the border. | The BBC's Alistair Leithead in Kabul says that must mean there will be questions over just how much of a difference the jirga can make in reducing the effectiveness of the insurgents that operate across the border. |
| The idea of a joint Afghan-Pakistan peace jirga was first suggested by Mr Karzai during talks with US President George W Bush in September. | The idea of a joint Afghan-Pakistan peace jirga was first suggested by Mr Karzai during talks with US President George W Bush in September. |
| Supporters of the Taleban say talks that do not include them could be futile. | Supporters of the Taleban say talks that do not include them could be futile. |
| Abdul Ghafoor Haideri, secretary general of Pakistan's Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) told the Associated Press news agency: "This is only a display, which cannot produce the true views of the Afghan people." | Abdul Ghafoor Haideri, secretary general of Pakistan's Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI) told the Associated Press news agency: "This is only a display, which cannot produce the true views of the Afghan people." |