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Currency union with Scotland may not be in UK's interest, says Osborne Currency union with Scotland may not be in UK's interest, says Osborne
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George Osborne has stepped up his warning that an independent Scotland would be unable to operate with a currency linked to sterling, let alone be able to form a currency union with it. "The best arrangement is if they stay in the UK," he said. An independent Scotland would be forced to adopt new currency arrangements that would be a "very deep dive into uncharted waters", George Osborne has warned. The chancellor said that an independent Scotland would be unable to operate with a currency linked to sterling, let alone be able to form a currency union with it.
"The best arrangement is if they stay in the UK," he said.
Setting out the options, the chancellor said: "I think Scotland could either join the euro, and Alex Salmond is very nervous of saying that, or Scotland can set up its own currency. That is what lots of countries do, but Alex Salmond is again nervous of saying that.Setting out the options, the chancellor said: "I think Scotland could either join the euro, and Alex Salmond is very nervous of saying that, or Scotland can set up its own currency. That is what lots of countries do, but Alex Salmond is again nervous of saying that.
"They can use the pound without our consent like Panama uses the American dollar, or they can negotiate with the rest of the UK to form a currency zone. But Britain has had poor experience with things like the ERM when it has had tried to lock or peg its currency together with other currencies. So it is not clear that it would be in the rest of the UK's interest to enter into a euro-style currency zone with the rest of Scotland." "They can use the pound without our consent, like Panama uses the American dollar, or they can negotiate with the rest of the UK to form a currency zone. But Britain has had poor experience with things like the ERM [exchange rate mechanism], when it has had tried to lock or peg its currency together with other currencies. So it is not clear that it would be in the rest of the UK's interest to enter into a euro-style currency zone with the rest of Scotland."
Speaking on the BBC's Today programme, Osborne denied he was threatening Scotland over the consequences of independence, arguing there was a legitimate right to question whether the other countries in the UK wished to form a currency union with Scotland. Speaking at the launch of a Treasury report in Edinburgh, Osborne said: "The fundamental political question this analysis provokes is this why would 58 million citizens give away some of their sovereignty over monetary and potentially other economic policy to 5 million people in another state?"
He said: "For England, 5% of our exports go to Scotland whilst 30% of their output goes to England." He said the Scottish Nationalists were trying to make independence seem like an easy step when it was not. Around a third of total Scottish output relies on exports to the rest of the UK while the reverse only amounts to less than 5%, he said.
"The rest of the UK, as the larger economy, would be much more exposed to the risk of an independent Scotland running into fiscal and financial difficulties.
"Let's be clear – abandoning current arrangements would represent a very deep dive indeed in to uncharted waters.
"Would a newly independent Scottish state be prepared to accept significant limits on its economic sovereignty? To submit its economic plans to Westminster before Holyrood?"
He went on: "The conclusion is clear – the pound we share works well. The saying goes: 'If it ain't broke, why fix it?' but I say: 'If it ain't broke, don't break it'.
"The alternatives to the way Scotland now uses the pound are second best. Is second best really good enough for Scotland and for all our United Kingdom? We are better together."
Osborne dismissed claims that it would be in everyone's interest to keep the pound as part of a sterling zone.
He added: "Let's stop speculating and look at the evidence. Would the rest of the UK family agree to take that risk?
"Could a situation where an independent Scotland and the rest of the UK share the pound and the Bank of England be made to work?
"Frankly, it's unlikely because there is real doubt about the answers to these questions.
"In other words, the only way to be sure of keeping the pound as Scotland's currency is to stay in the United Kingdom."
Speaking earlier on the BBC's Today programme, Osborne denied he was threatening Scotland over the consequences of independence, arguing there was a legitimate right to question whether the other countries in the UK wished to form a currency union with Scotland.
He said Scottish nationalists were trying to make independence seem like an easy step when it was not.
Osborne said a big question remained over whether an independent Scotland would have to take on some of the debt the UK faces.Osborne said a big question remained over whether an independent Scotland would have to take on some of the debt the UK faces.
In a detailed critique of Salmond's proposals to create a new sterling area, the Treasury said on Tuesday it had significant doubts about whether a currency pact would be in the UK's interests.In a detailed critique of Salmond's proposals to create a new sterling area, the Treasury said on Tuesday it had significant doubts about whether a currency pact would be in the UK's interests.
It said if Salmond won next year's independence referendum, a currency union would expose the UK to greater risks from speculators and downgrading on financial markets.It said if Salmond won next year's independence referendum, a currency union would expose the UK to greater risks from speculators and downgrading on financial markets.
The Scottish economy would be a tenth of the size of the UK's and its heavy dependence on volatile North Sea oil and gas receipts and on financial services would leave it more vulnerable to economic shocks. Its status as a newly separate sterling economy may also unnerve investors and the markets.The Scottish economy would be a tenth of the size of the UK's and its heavy dependence on volatile North Sea oil and gas receipts and on financial services would leave it more vulnerable to economic shocks. Its status as a newly separate sterling economy may also unnerve investors and the markets.
The Treasury report said that would mean there was "a fundamental asymmetry in the degree of exposure to fiscal and financial risk as a sterling union would comprise two members of very different sizes".The Treasury report said that would mean there was "a fundamental asymmetry in the degree of exposure to fiscal and financial risk as a sterling union would comprise two members of very different sizes".
It added: "Even with constraints in place, the economic rationale for the UK to agree to enter a formal sterling union with a separate state is not clear."It added: "Even with constraints in place, the economic rationale for the UK to agree to enter a formal sterling union with a separate state is not clear."
The UK government believes that a newly independent Scottish government would be required to formally commit to joining the euro as a condition of its EU membership, raising further doubts about the durability of a sterling pact.The UK government believes that a newly independent Scottish government would be required to formally commit to joining the euro as a condition of its EU membership, raising further doubts about the durability of a sterling pact.
The Treasury and the Bank of England, which Salmond hopes will become Scotland's central bank and lender of last resort, would then insist on "rigorous oversight of Scotland's economic and fiscal plans by both the new Scottish and the continuing UK authorities. These constraints would need to reflect the difference in the degree of exposure to fiscal risk."The Treasury and the Bank of England, which Salmond hopes will become Scotland's central bank and lender of last resort, would then insist on "rigorous oversight of Scotland's economic and fiscal plans by both the new Scottish and the continuing UK authorities. These constraints would need to reflect the difference in the degree of exposure to fiscal risk."
The BoE might even refuse to continue to allow Scotland's three banks – Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale – to continue issuing sterling banknotes. The three banks have about £3.8bn of their own notes in circulation, underpinned by equivalent cash and securities deposits in the Bank of England.The BoE might even refuse to continue to allow Scotland's three banks – Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale – to continue issuing sterling banknotes. The three banks have about £3.8bn of their own notes in circulation, underpinned by equivalent cash and securities deposits in the Bank of England.
The paper, titled Scotland analysis: currency and monetary policy, concluded: "If financial markets perceive that a currency union (or a fixed exchange rate regime) is not economically or politically durable, or only a transitional arrangement, speculative activity can put immediate pressure on the arrangement." The paper, titled Scotland Analysis: Currency and Monetary Policy, concluded: "If financial markets perceive that a currency union (or a fixed exchange rate regime) is not economically or politically durable, or only a transitional arrangement, speculative activity can put immediate pressure on the arrangement."
It said Scotland's finances and economy would therefore be weakened under independence. Its other options – joining the euro immediately, creating its own currency or simply using sterling without any deal – were also flawed and risky.It said Scotland's finances and economy would therefore be weakened under independence. Its other options – joining the euro immediately, creating its own currency or simply using sterling without any deal – were also flawed and risky.
Describing the UK as "one of the most successful monetary, fiscal and political unions in history", it argues: "All of the alternative currency arrangements would be likely to be less economically suitable for both Scotland and the rest of the UK."Describing the UK as "one of the most successful monetary, fiscal and political unions in history", it argues: "All of the alternative currency arrangements would be likely to be less economically suitable for both Scotland and the rest of the UK."
Trailed heavily in Scotland over the weekend, the Treasury report is being circulated widely within City and financial institutions, as London seeks to shore up its case within the business world against independence.Trailed heavily in Scotland over the weekend, the Treasury report is being circulated widely within City and financial institutions, as London seeks to shore up its case within the business world against independence.
But its analysis is being resisted by Salmond and the Scottish government, which rushed out its own currency report in response. It believes the very close economic and business ties, and the tightly integrated economies cited by the Treasury, are good reasons for agreeing a sterling pact.But its analysis is being resisted by Salmond and the Scottish government, which rushed out its own currency report in response. It believes the very close economic and business ties, and the tightly integrated economies cited by the Treasury, are good reasons for agreeing a sterling pact.
John Swinney, the Scottish finance secretary, said its analysis of Scotland's balance of payments showed the Scottish economy was consistently healthier and less indebted than the UK's as a whole over the last 30 years, despite higher per head state spending.John Swinney, the Scottish finance secretary, said its analysis of Scotland's balance of payments showed the Scottish economy was consistently healthier and less indebted than the UK's as a whole over the last 30 years, despite higher per head state spending.
This was due to oil receipts, which were expected to increase, and added £40bn last year to the UK's balance of payments. The Scottish government's fiscal commission, which included the Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, had said a sterling pact was clearly in the UK's interests, Swinney added.This was due to oil receipts, which were expected to increase, and added £40bn last year to the UK's balance of payments. The Scottish government's fiscal commission, which included the Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, had said a sterling pact was clearly in the UK's interests, Swinney added.
"A sterling zone, with the pound as a shared currency will provide the full flexibility to set tax and spending decisions to target key opportunities and challenges in Scotland," Swinney said."A sterling zone, with the pound as a shared currency will provide the full flexibility to set tax and spending decisions to target key opportunities and challenges in Scotland," Swinney said.
"A sterling zone is also in the overwhelming economic interests of the rest of the UK every bit as much as it is in the interests of Scotland. An independent Scotland using the pound will mean sterling's balance of payments will be massively supported by Scotland's huge assets, including North Sea oil and gas – which alone swelled the UK's balance of payments by £40bn in 2011-12."A sterling zone is also in the overwhelming economic interests of the rest of the UK every bit as much as it is in the interests of Scotland. An independent Scotland using the pound will mean sterling's balance of payments will be massively supported by Scotland's huge assets, including North Sea oil and gas – which alone swelled the UK's balance of payments by £40bn in 2011-12.
"Far from holding the Scottish economy back, independence would allow a future Scottish government to tailor its economic, investment, taxation and capital spending strategies far more intelligently to suit the country's interests: this would strengthen rather than weaken its economy.""Far from holding the Scottish economy back, independence would allow a future Scottish government to tailor its economic, investment, taxation and capital spending strategies far more intelligently to suit the country's interests: this would strengthen rather than weaken its economy."