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Moors Murderer Ian Brady's care 'affected by his notoriety' Moors Murderer Ian Brady's care 'affected by his notoriety'
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Ian Brady's "notoriety" may have affected the quality of the treatment he has received in a secure hospital, his mental health tribunal has heard.Ian Brady's "notoriety" may have affected the quality of the treatment he has received in a secure hospital, his mental health tribunal has heard.
Consultant psychologist David Glasgow, who has been called by the Moors Murderer's legal team, said it was "exceptional" for someone to be with the same carers for 30 years.Consultant psychologist David Glasgow, who has been called by the Moors Murderer's legal team, said it was "exceptional" for someone to be with the same carers for 30 years.
"This is just not a healthy position to be in," he added."This is just not a healthy position to be in," he added.
Brady, 75, is asking to be moved from Ashworth Hospital to a normal prison.Brady, 75, is asking to be moved from Ashworth Hospital to a normal prison.
He will speak publicly for the first time in almost 50 years on Tuesday in an effort to prove he is no longer mentally ill so he can move to prison, where he believes he would have more choice about how to end his life.He will speak publicly for the first time in almost 50 years on Tuesday in an effort to prove he is no longer mentally ill so he can move to prison, where he believes he would have more choice about how to end his life.
Brady, who was jailed for life in 1966, has refused to eat since 1999, but doctors at the hospital in Merseyside can force-feed him under mental health law.Brady, who was jailed for life in 1966, has refused to eat since 1999, but doctors at the hospital in Merseyside can force-feed him under mental health law.
'Compromised''Compromised'
Mr Glasgow told the tribunal on Monday he thought the care being given to Brady did not amount to treatment and the overall therapeutic approach to him did not appear to have any goals.Mr Glasgow told the tribunal on Monday he thought the care being given to Brady did not amount to treatment and the overall therapeutic approach to him did not appear to have any goals.
"My concern is that his notoriety has affected his treatment," he said."My concern is that his notoriety has affected his treatment," he said.
"There is a compelling argument that the move in 1999 [from one hospital ward to another] irretrievably compromised his relationship with that care team."There is a compelling argument that the move in 1999 [from one hospital ward to another] irretrievably compromised his relationship with that care team.
"I was very surprised to learn that he is exceptional in that he has stayed in the same place with the same team for 30 years. This is just not a healthy position to be in.""I was very surprised to learn that he is exceptional in that he has stayed in the same place with the same team for 30 years. This is just not a healthy position to be in."
Brady's precise reasons for wanting to return to prison remain unclear, although it is thought he might try to starve himself to death, thinking that prison governors might be powerless to intervene.Brady's precise reasons for wanting to return to prison remain unclear, although it is thought he might try to starve himself to death, thinking that prison governors might be powerless to intervene.
But Dr James Collins, the leading doctor responsible for Brady's care at Ashworth, said the killer's primary motive for seeking to return to prison was to have "a win" over the authorities.But Dr James Collins, the leading doctor responsible for Brady's care at Ashworth, said the killer's primary motive for seeking to return to prison was to have "a win" over the authorities.
Addressing that suggestion, Mr Glasgow said: "It would be foolish to say that he does not really mean it because he is narcissistic and is working the system."Addressing that suggestion, Mr Glasgow said: "It would be foolish to say that he does not really mean it because he is narcissistic and is working the system."
The psychologist said that when it was pointed out to Brady he could be at risk of being killed by another inmate in prison, he had replied: "As long as it is quick, that is fine by me."The psychologist said that when it was pointed out to Brady he could be at risk of being killed by another inmate in prison, he had replied: "As long as it is quick, that is fine by me."
'Civil and caring''Civil and caring'
Doctors at Ashworth say Brady is mentally ill and shows symptoms of hallucinations and delusions.Doctors at Ashworth say Brady is mentally ill and shows symptoms of hallucinations and delusions.
His legal team, however, assert he has a severe narcissistic personality disorder but is not mentally ill.His legal team, however, assert he has a severe narcissistic personality disorder but is not mentally ill.
Mr Glasgow said Brady believed incidents were "embellished or invented" by Ashworth staff in order to "pathologise his behaviour".Mr Glasgow said Brady believed incidents were "embellished or invented" by Ashworth staff in order to "pathologise his behaviour".
The psychologist said he accepted the diagnosis of schizophrenia on Brady in the 1980s but that did not mean he suffered from it now and he had seen numerous examples of him being thoughtful, civil and caring to staff.The psychologist said he accepted the diagnosis of schizophrenia on Brady in the 1980s but that did not mean he suffered from it now and he had seen numerous examples of him being thoughtful, civil and caring to staff.
The tribunal heard earlier that Brady had been banned from carrying pens in case he used them as a weapon.
Ashworth charge nurse Mark Sheppard told the tribunal on Monday about the incident in September 2012 which led to the ban.
He said Brady spat at him and was "baring his teeth", adding: "He pointed the pen towards my face with such anger that he was going to make contact with me.
"I am absolutely convinced if I had not brought my hand up his pen would have contacted with my face."
Brady and Hindley tortured and murdered five children aged from 10 to 17, burying some of their victims' bodies on Saddleworth Moor.Brady and Hindley tortured and murdered five children aged from 10 to 17, burying some of their victims' bodies on Saddleworth Moor.
Hindley died in prison in 2002, aged 60.Hindley died in prison in 2002, aged 60.