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Moors Murderer Ian Brady has told a mental health tribunal he has been misdiagnosed as mentally ill.Moors Murderer Ian Brady has told a mental health tribunal he has been misdiagnosed as mentally ill.
Brady, speaking publicly for the first time in 47 years, also refused to confirm if he intended to kill himself were he to return to jail.Brady, speaking publicly for the first time in 47 years, also refused to confirm if he intended to kill himself were he to return to jail.
The authorities believe Brady, who has previously fought for the right to kill himself, should remain in hospital because he is mentally ill.The authorities believe Brady, who has previously fought for the right to kill himself, should remain in hospital because he is mentally ill.
With Myra Hindley, Brady, now 75, tortured and murdered five children.With Myra Hindley, Brady, now 75, tortured and murdered five children.
The pair buried some of their victims' bodies on Saddleworth Moor in the Peak District.The pair buried some of their victims' bodies on Saddleworth Moor in the Peak District.
Brady is speaking at the final day of the tribunal, which is sitting at Ashworth high-security psychiatric hospital in Maghull, Merseyside, where he has been held since 1985.Brady is speaking at the final day of the tribunal, which is sitting at Ashworth high-security psychiatric hospital in Maghull, Merseyside, where he has been held since 1985.
'Penal warehouse' 'Method acting'
Brady's legal team say he has a severe personality disorder but is not mentally ill and could be treated in prison rather than hospital.Brady's legal team say he has a severe personality disorder but is not mentally ill and could be treated in prison rather than hospital.
But staff at Ashworth say he remains a paranoid schizophrenic who should stay at the hospital.But staff at Ashworth say he remains a paranoid schizophrenic who should stay at the hospital.
Brady is said to have been on hunger strike since 1999 and doctors at Ashworth are able to force-feed him through a tube in his nose under mental health law. But the tribunal has previously heard from a nurse that Brady does eat. Brady is said to have been on hunger strike since 1999, but doctors at Ashworth can force-feed him through a tube in his nose under mental health law.
The killer told the tribunal he had been in solitary confinement for a while in prison and would occupy his days by memorising pages of Shakespeare and Plato - and then recite them aloud as he walked up and down in his cell. On Monday a nurse said Brady makes himself toast every morning and eats other food offered to him on "most days".
He said any similar activity in Ashworth was seen as a sign of mental illness and then used against him. When this was put to him, Brady replied: "According to whom? I'm not eating anything."
"If I interact with the TV, Tony Blair or something on, and make any comment, this is interpreted as psychosis. Eleanor Grey QC, counsel for Ashworth, asked Brady if he was mentally ill when he was transferred to Ashworth in 1985.
"And who doesn't talk to themselves? This is a question people very rarely ask." He replied: "Have you heard of Stanislavski?
"If you knew who Stanislavski is... have you heard of method acting? Does that make it clear to you?"
Miss Grey asked Brady about claims he had complained of physical ailments at Ashworth then refused to see medics when they visited him, citing a time when he apparently reported pain in his arm,
Brady said: "I have a photographic memory and I don't remember this particular incident you are referring to."
He added: "If you are outnumbered three to one, two to one, the staff are always right, the prisoner is always wrong."
Asked why he wanted to leave Ashworth, he said he hated it because "the regime has changed to a penal warehouse".Asked why he wanted to leave Ashworth, he said he hated it because "the regime has changed to a penal warehouse".
"They give you false drugs and turn you into a zombie," he added."They give you false drugs and turn you into a zombie," he added.
But Brady refused to answer a question from his own lawyer about whether he wants to kill himself if he is declared fit to return to prison.But Brady refused to answer a question from his own lawyer about whether he wants to kill himself if he is declared fit to return to prison.
He said: "I have been asked the question repeatedly. I have answered hypothetically from all angles.He said: "I have been asked the question repeatedly. I have answered hypothetically from all angles.
"In prison you are a monkey in a cage being poked with a stick. How can you pretend to be omnipotent?"In prison you are a monkey in a cage being poked with a stick. How can you pretend to be omnipotent?
"You cannot make plans when you have no freedom of control, movement or anything."You cannot make plans when you have no freedom of control, movement or anything.
"You cannot talk sensibly about anything with a question like that.""You cannot talk sensibly about anything with a question like that."
Brady, who never looked up during the opening half hour of his evidence, spoke carefully in a soft and quiet Scottish accent. As he started to give evidence Brady did not look up and spoke carefully in a soft and quiet Scottish accent.
Proceedings are being relayed to the press and public on TV screens at Manchester Civil Justice Centre.Proceedings are being relayed to the press and public on TV screens at Manchester Civil Justice Centre.
The tribunal had earlier heard Brady sometimes blocked out the world by listening to white noise on headphones - but he told the tribunal it was a "simply pragmatic" decision to make conditions more tolerable. He said his resistance at Ashworth began in 1999 after he said he was assaulted by a group of riot-gear clad warders who were moving him from one unit to another.
He said his resistance of the regime at Ashworth began in 1999 after he says he was assaulted by a group of riot-gear clad warders who were moving him from one unit to another. Asked how he had spent his time in prison over the years, he said he had studied psychology and German and had worked on Braille texts.
Asked how he had spent his time in prison over the years, he said he had studied psychology and German and had worked on braille texts.
He said he had also worked as a barber at Wormwood Scrubs before he was sent to Ashworth.He said he had also worked as a barber at Wormwood Scrubs before he was sent to Ashworth.
Paranoia accusationsParanoia accusations
Brady said he had mainly stayed in his room for the past 10 months because of "negative, regressive, provocative staff that I am avoiding".Brady said he had mainly stayed in his room for the past 10 months because of "negative, regressive, provocative staff that I am avoiding".
Asked about the theory he stayed in his room because he was paranoid about other patients, he said his relationship with other patients was "unremarkable".Asked about the theory he stayed in his room because he was paranoid about other patients, he said his relationship with other patients was "unremarkable".
The serial killer, who said he had mixed down the years with the notorious Kray twins and IRA terrorists, added: "Only the authorities call it paranoia - the prisoners say it is sensible suspicion." The serial killer, who said he had mixed down the years with the Kray twins and IRA terrorists, added: "Only the authorities call it paranoia - the prisoners say it is sensible suspicion."
The judgement of the panel will be released at a later date yet to be fixed.The judgement of the panel will be released at a later date yet to be fixed.
The last time Brady was heard in public was in 1966 at Chester Assizes, where he denied the murders.The last time Brady was heard in public was in 1966 at Chester Assizes, where he denied the murders.
He was eventually found guilty of three of the murders and jailed for life. He and Hindley later confessed to the other two. Hindley died in prison in 2002, aged 60.He was eventually found guilty of three of the murders and jailed for life. He and Hindley later confessed to the other two. Hindley died in prison in 2002, aged 60.