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Bath Ales and Abbey Ales in 'similar name' battle | Bath Ales and Abbey Ales in 'similar name' battle |
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Brewer Bath Ales is battling to stop another firm in the city from starting a company with a similar name. | |
Abbey Ales, based in the city's Camden Row, wants to set up a new subsidiary called Bath Brewing Company. | Abbey Ales, based in the city's Camden Row, wants to set up a new subsidiary called Bath Brewing Company. |
Bath Ales, which is actually based in Warmley, South Gloucestershire, said that could lead to confusion with beer drinkers. | Bath Ales, which is actually based in Warmley, South Gloucestershire, said that could lead to confusion with beer drinkers. |
Solicitors on both sides are looking into the case. | Solicitors on both sides are looking into the case. |
'Totally unfair' | 'Totally unfair' |
"We brought the first brew out, which was extremely successful, and then we got a complaint from Bath Ales saying that they objected to us using the Bath name," said Alan Morgan, who runs Abbey Ales. | "We brought the first brew out, which was extremely successful, and then we got a complaint from Bath Ales saying that they objected to us using the Bath name," said Alan Morgan, who runs Abbey Ales. |
"We're brewing in Bath and we're a Bath company - it just seemed to make sense. | "We're brewing in Bath and we're a Bath company - it just seemed to make sense. |
"I also feel it's unfair that a company that have never brewed in Bath can object to a company based in Bath, calling themselves the Bath Brewing Company Limited. | "I also feel it's unfair that a company that have never brewed in Bath can object to a company based in Bath, calling themselves the Bath Brewing Company Limited. |
"We pay Bath taxes and Bath business rates. It's just totally unfair". | "We pay Bath taxes and Bath business rates. It's just totally unfair". |
Founded in 1997, Abbey Ales owns four pubs in the city of Bath. | Founded in 1997, Abbey Ales owns four pubs in the city of Bath. |
Bath Ales was established in 1995, and has 10 pubs in the west, including establishments in Bath, Bristol and Cirencester - its first pub opened in Bath 1997. | Bath Ales was established in 1995, and has 10 pubs in the west, including establishments in Bath, Bristol and Cirencester - its first pub opened in Bath 1997. |
Roger Jones, from Bath Ales, agreed that Mr Morgan had a "good point" but it wasn't true to say the company had never brewed in Bath. | Roger Jones, from Bath Ales, agreed that Mr Morgan had a "good point" but it wasn't true to say the company had never brewed in Bath. |
"We do have a big presence in Bath now with the Graze Brewery, Bar and Chophouse which is right next to the station and we're brewing there these days," he added. | "We do have a big presence in Bath now with the Graze Brewery, Bar and Chophouse which is right next to the station and we're brewing there these days," he added. |
"There's no real problem, there is room for everybody. We have a deserved reputation for quality and we just want to protect that, and not confuse the consumers really." | "There's no real problem, there is room for everybody. We have a deserved reputation for quality and we just want to protect that, and not confuse the consumers really." |
'Passing off' | 'Passing off' |
Mr Jones added that a similar move to register the Bath Brewing Company Limited as a trademark had previously been undertaken by The City Pub Company (West) Plc. | Mr Jones added that a similar move to register the Bath Brewing Company Limited as a trademark had previously been undertaken by The City Pub Company (West) Plc. |
"They accepted we had prior rights, so they withdrew the application," he added. | "They accepted we had prior rights, so they withdrew the application," he added. |
Andrew Gregg, a solicitor from Gregg Latchems in Bristol - who is not associated with either company - said whilst he "had sympathy" with Abbey Ales, Bath Ales had a good case. | Andrew Gregg, a solicitor from Gregg Latchems in Bristol - who is not associated with either company - said whilst he "had sympathy" with Abbey Ales, Bath Ales had a good case. |
"It's my opinion and view that if the Bath Brewing Company were to try and set up and use that name, they would find themselves on the wrong end of what's called a Passing Off Action," he added. | "It's my opinion and view that if the Bath Brewing Company were to try and set up and use that name, they would find themselves on the wrong end of what's called a Passing Off Action," he added. |
"I am in no doubt that, if the matter where to come to court, that the Bath Brewing Company would have to admit - or be found guilty of, whatever you want to call it - passing off that name." | "I am in no doubt that, if the matter where to come to court, that the Bath Brewing Company would have to admit - or be found guilty of, whatever you want to call it - passing off that name." |
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