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Blunkett 'in machine-gun order' Blunkett 'gave machine-gun order'
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David Blunkett told the head of the Prison Service to call in the Army and "machine-gun" rioting inmates to regain control of a jail in 2002, reports say.David Blunkett told the head of the Prison Service to call in the Army and "machine-gun" rioting inmates to regain control of a jail in 2002, reports say.
Martin Narey, then director general, said the then home secretary told him he did not care about possible deaths during bids to retake Lincoln prison.Martin Narey, then director general, said the then home secretary told him he did not care about possible deaths during bids to retake Lincoln prison.
Mr Narey's comments in the Times are in response to Mr Blunkett's diaries which accuse him of dithering over the riots.Mr Narey's comments in the Times are in response to Mr Blunkett's diaries which accuse him of dithering over the riots.
A spokesman for Mr Blunkett denied he had made any reference to machine guns.A spokesman for Mr Blunkett denied he had made any reference to machine guns.
The diaries, which record Mr Blunkett's eight years in Cabinet, were published on Monday.The diaries, which record Mr Blunkett's eight years in Cabinet, were published on Monday.
In an article for the newspaper, Mr Narey said he could not allow the former home secretary's account of the prison riots to go unchallenged. Mr Narey said when he read Mr Blunkett's account of the riot he was "very angry".
What you are looking for is calm guidance, it's leadership, from a Secretary of State, and that was sadly lacking on that occasion Martin NareyFormer Prison Service head
"And on behalf of all those who worked so bravely that night - particularly my deputy, Phil Wheatley - I was determined to put the record straight," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
He said that, during a telephone conversation in October 2002, he told Mr Blunkett he would not rush into ordering staff back into jail if it put lives at risk.He said that, during a telephone conversation in October 2002, he told Mr Blunkett he would not rush into ordering staff back into jail if it put lives at risk.
He told The Times: "[Mr Blunkett] shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the Army and 'machine-gun' the prisoners and - still shrieking - again ordered me to take the prison back immediately.He told The Times: "[Mr Blunkett] shrieked at me that he didn't care about lives, told me to call in the Army and 'machine-gun' the prisoners and - still shrieking - again ordered me to take the prison back immediately.
"I refused. David hung up.""I refused. David hung up."
'Under pressure'
Mr Narey acknowledged that the comments were not meant literally.Mr Narey acknowledged that the comments were not meant literally.
"He surely cannot have intended us to take (them) seriously," he wrote. "He surely cannot have intended us to take (them) seriously," he wrote in the Times.
Martin Narey claimed Mr Blunkett was "hysterical" Mr Narey described Mr Blunkett as being "reckless" during the crisis.
However, he said the reaction showed that when Mr Blunkett was under pressure "he could be almost impossible to work with". "What you are looking for is calm guidance, it's leadership, from a Secretary of State, and that was sadly lacking on that occasion."
"I found him always unpredictable and inclined to rush to a decision, sometimes on the basis of what had been read to him that morning from the tabloid press," he said. Martin Narey claimed Mr Blunkett was "reckless"
He added: "I don't think David was decisive that evening; I think he was reckless."
Mr Narey said he "was well aware of the capacity for riots to spread" because of his experience of the riots at Strangeways prison in 1990.
But the ex-minister has stood by his account of the Lincoln prison riot and denied Mr Narey's account.But the ex-minister has stood by his account of the Lincoln prison riot and denied Mr Narey's account.
A spokesman for Mr Blunkett told the newspaper: "The diary records precisely what happened.A spokesman for Mr Blunkett told the newspaper: "The diary records precisely what happened.
"He did order the retaking of the prison. He did not say anything about machine guns. Quite apart from anything else, they do not carry machine guns in the Prison Service."He did order the retaking of the prison. He did not say anything about machine guns. Quite apart from anything else, they do not carry machine guns in the Prison Service.
"Any such phone call would have been monitored by Mr Blunkett's private office.""Any such phone call would have been monitored by Mr Blunkett's private office."
Mr Narey said he would be "delighted" to hear such a recording.
"I promise you my account is absolutely true."