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| 'Self-defence' law to be reviewed | 'Self-defence' law to be reviewed |
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| There is to be an urgent review of the law protecting those who intervene in criminal situations in England and Wales, the government has said. | |
| Justice Secretary Jack Straw, who has been a "have-a-go hero" four times, said he wanted to clarify "that the law is on the side of the citizen". | Justice Secretary Jack Straw, who has been a "have-a-go hero" four times, said he wanted to clarify "that the law is on the side of the citizen". |
| Both he and the home secretary have addressed the Labour Party conference. | |
| He said self-defence laws work "much better than most people think, but not as well as it could or should". | |
| Mr Straw wants to reassure victims or witnesses that they can use reasonable force to stop and detain offenders. | Mr Straw wants to reassure victims or witnesses that they can use reasonable force to stop and detain offenders. |
| 'Good citizens' | 'Good citizens' |
| Labour's gathering in Bournemouth is drawing to a close on Thursday with the party's traditional send-off, delivered by deputy leader Harriet Harman. | |
| Before then, Mr Straw said he knew "from personal experience that you have all of a millisecond to make the judgement about whether to intervene" in a crime. | |
| You haven't got time in that situation to wonder where does the balance lie - what constitutes reasonable force Justice Secretary Jack Straw on being a "have-a-go hero" | You haven't got time in that situation to wonder where does the balance lie - what constitutes reasonable force Justice Secretary Jack Straw on being a "have-a-go hero" |
| "The justice system must not only work on the side of people who do the right thing as good citizens but also be seen to work on their side." | "The justice system must not only work on the side of people who do the right thing as good citizens but also be seen to work on their side." |
| Of the four times when Mr Straw has intervened to stop criminals, he managed to detain the offender on three occasions. | Of the four times when Mr Straw has intervened to stop criminals, he managed to detain the offender on three occasions. |
| In 1980 he overheard a burglar breaking into a members club in his Blackburn constituency, chased him down the street and detained him until police arrived. | In 1980 he overheard a burglar breaking into a members club in his Blackburn constituency, chased him down the street and detained him until police arrived. |
| HAVE YOUR SAY As soon as you commit a crime you lose any rights that you may have had Adrian Mugridge, Chester Send us your comments | HAVE YOUR SAY As soon as you commit a crime you lose any rights that you may have had Adrian Mugridge, Chester Send us your comments |
| In the mid 1980s at Oval Tube station in south London he came across an 11-year-old boy who had just been robbed by a man and detained the offender. | In the mid 1980s at Oval Tube station in south London he came across an 11-year-old boy who had just been robbed by a man and detained the offender. |
| He chased a man who had attacked a woman at the same underground station in the early 1990s, but did not catch him. | He chased a man who had attacked a woman at the same underground station in the early 1990s, but did not catch him. |
| Then in 1996 he chased a man who had robbed a member of the public and detained the suspect until police arrived. | Then in 1996 he chased a man who had robbed a member of the public and detained the suspect until police arrived. |
| Public 'anxiety' | Public 'anxiety' |
| "I was presented, just by chance, with being a witness to criminal behaviour and thought I should intervene," Mr Straw told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. | "I was presented, just by chance, with being a witness to criminal behaviour and thought I should intervene," Mr Straw told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. |
| The government "appears to be a bit confused", Mr Clegg argued"You haven't got time in that situation to wonder where does the balance lie - what constitutes reasonable force." | The government "appears to be a bit confused", Mr Clegg argued"You haven't got time in that situation to wonder where does the balance lie - what constitutes reasonable force." |
| He went on: "No-one knows whether you're going to intervene until it happens. | He went on: "No-one knows whether you're going to intervene until it happens. |
| "Those that do intervene in this situation face the anxiety that they'll be the subject of a police investigation. | "Those that do intervene in this situation face the anxiety that they'll be the subject of a police investigation. |
| "Too many unnecessary police investigations take place. I want to make the law clearer." | "Too many unnecessary police investigations take place. I want to make the law clearer." |
| Mr Straw wants people to be aware that the Criminal Law Act 1967 allows them to use reasonable force to apprehend suspects, but was not advocating recklessness, his spokesman said. | Mr Straw wants people to be aware that the Criminal Law Act 1967 allows them to use reasonable force to apprehend suspects, but was not advocating recklessness, his spokesman said. |
| Government 'confused' | Government 'confused' |
| However, the Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman, Nick Clegg, said the law did not need to be changed as it was "already very, very clear" that "proportionate, reasonable force" could be used. | However, the Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman, Nick Clegg, said the law did not need to be changed as it was "already very, very clear" that "proportionate, reasonable force" could be used. |
| "My concern, frankly, is the government appears to be a bit confused," he told BBC Radio Five Live. | "My concern, frankly, is the government appears to be a bit confused," he told BBC Radio Five Live. |
| "On the one hand, Straw seems to be saying the law is working better than people think. | "On the one hand, Straw seems to be saying the law is working better than people think. |
| "On the other hand he seems to be stoking up public fear, if you like, by saying 'I'm going to review it', but not really saying in what way it's going to be reviewed." | "On the other hand he seems to be stoking up public fear, if you like, by saying 'I'm going to review it', but not really saying in what way it's going to be reviewed." |
| The Association of Chief Police Officers, the Crown Prosecution Service, judges and other government ministers are expected to be consulted during the review. | The Association of Chief Police Officers, the Crown Prosecution Service, judges and other government ministers are expected to be consulted during the review. |
| Meanwhile Home Secretary Jacqui Smith's speech covered, among other issues, Labour's commitment to give local people more information about the performance of local police, and tougher checks on people travelling to the UK. | |
| She rejected Conservative claims there was "anarchy in the UK" and said it was irresponsible to stoke up people's fear of crime. |