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House G.O.P. Discusses Short-Term Fix on Debt Limit G.O.P. to Offer Short-Term Debt Limit Plan to Obama
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WASHINGTON — House Republicans, looking for a way out of a budget standoff they began, will offer to President Obama at a White House meeting Thursday a plan to increase the debt limit through Nov. 22, in exchange for a promise to negotiate a deal for long-term deficit reduction and a tax overhaul.WASHINGTON — House Republicans, looking for a way out of a budget standoff they began, will offer to President Obama at a White House meeting Thursday a plan to increase the debt limit through Nov. 22, in exchange for a promise to negotiate a deal for long-term deficit reduction and a tax overhaul.
The debt ceiling increase could come to a vote as soon as Friday, but House Republicans did not intend to reopen the government, hoping that the shuttering of federal programs would keep the pressure on Democrats to compromise.The debt ceiling increase could come to a vote as soon as Friday, but House Republicans did not intend to reopen the government, hoping that the shuttering of federal programs would keep the pressure on Democrats to compromise.
“What we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move,” Speaker John A. Boehner said. The offer, he said, would be “a temporary increase in the debt ceiling, an agreement to go to conference on the budget, for his willingness to sit down and talk with us a way forward to open the government.”“What we want to do is offer the president today the ability to move,” Speaker John A. Boehner said. The offer, he said, would be “a temporary increase in the debt ceiling, an agreement to go to conference on the budget, for his willingness to sit down and talk with us a way forward to open the government.”
The White House indicated that while the president might sign a short-term bill to avert default, it rejected the proposal as insufficient to begin negotiations over his health care law or further long-term deficit reductions because the plan does not address the measure passed by the Senate to finance and reopen the government. The White House press secretary, Jay Carney, declined to say whether Mr. Obama would sign a short-term debt limit increase, as the president suggested he would earlier this week. “We’ll see what the House Republicans propose, we’ll see what they’re able to pass,” Mr. Carney said.
“The president has made clear that he will not pay a ransom for Congress doing its job and paying our bills,” said a White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Mr. Carney also would not clarify whether Mr. Obama would sign an essential increase in the Treasury’s borrowing authority if House Republicans do not also reopen the government leaving it purposely ambiguous while the House Republicans’ latest tactics remain unclear.
Though Mr. Obama indicated this week that he would sign a short-term extension in the nation’s borrowing authority, he is still pressing for a Democratic Senate proposal to extend the debt limit for a full year with no “extraneous political strings attached,” the official said. But without an agreement to also end the shutdown, the president will not negotiate on other issues, the official said. But, he added, “they should do both.”
Still, the House Republican offer represented a significant breakthrough. Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said Republicans were now willing to go to formal negotiations with Senate Democrats over a long-term, comprehensive budget framework, a move Republicans have resisted since April. And while House Republicans are divided over even a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, Representative Tim Griffin, Republican of Arkansas, said the proposal would pass with Republican and Democratic votes.Still, the House Republican offer represented a significant breakthrough. Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said Republicans were now willing to go to formal negotiations with Senate Democrats over a long-term, comprehensive budget framework, a move Republicans have resisted since April. And while House Republicans are divided over even a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, Representative Tim Griffin, Republican of Arkansas, said the proposal would pass with Republican and Democratic votes.
Many Republicans said they would support their leadership’s proposal only if Mr. Obama agreed to not only negotiate a broader deal on a yearlong debt ceiling increase — which would most likely include spending and entitlement changes — but also negotiate over the terms for a stopgap spending measure that would reopen the government.Many Republicans said they would support their leadership’s proposal only if Mr. Obama agreed to not only negotiate a broader deal on a yearlong debt ceiling increase — which would most likely include spending and entitlement changes — but also negotiate over the terms for a stopgap spending measure that would reopen the government.
“We would get a commitment from the president, a concession, to sit down and talk with us, to negotiate before we go to a yearlong debt ceiling increase,” said Representative John Fleming, Republican of Louisiana. “There won’t be a vote on a temporary extension of the debt limit unless the president agrees this afternoon to sit down and talk with us.”“We would get a commitment from the president, a concession, to sit down and talk with us, to negotiate before we go to a yearlong debt ceiling increase,” said Representative John Fleming, Republican of Louisiana. “There won’t be a vote on a temporary extension of the debt limit unless the president agrees this afternoon to sit down and talk with us.”
In a closed-door meeting Thursday morning, Republican lawmakers argued, alternately, for both a more moderate and a more hard-line approach. Representative Charlie Dent, a Republican who represents a swing district in Eastern Pennsylvania, stood up and pushed for a vote on a stopgap measure to finance the government with no strings attached, according to members who were in the room. But other more conservative members, Mr. Fleming said, are “concerned that we don’t move the goal posts unless we get the president to come to us, that this has to work bilaterally.”In a closed-door meeting Thursday morning, Republican lawmakers argued, alternately, for both a more moderate and a more hard-line approach. Representative Charlie Dent, a Republican who represents a swing district in Eastern Pennsylvania, stood up and pushed for a vote on a stopgap measure to finance the government with no strings attached, according to members who were in the room. But other more conservative members, Mr. Fleming said, are “concerned that we don’t move the goal posts unless we get the president to come to us, that this has to work bilaterally.”
Leaving the meeting early, Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa and one of his party’s more conservative members, said he was “not very enthusiastic” about the new strategy.Leaving the meeting early, Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa and one of his party’s more conservative members, said he was “not very enthusiastic” about the new strategy.
Still, despite continuing divisions within the Republican ranks and between the parties, the maneuvering suggested that Congressional Republicans want to end a potentially calamitous standoff for which polls show they are getting more of the blame from the public.Still, despite continuing divisions within the Republican ranks and between the parties, the maneuvering suggested that Congressional Republicans want to end a potentially calamitous standoff for which polls show they are getting more of the blame from the public.
“When you’re genuinely convinced your own constituency — Democrats or Republicans — are beginning to waver, then that’s when you start closing down and moving forward,” said Representative Jack Kingston, Republican of Georgia, who is running for the Senate.“When you’re genuinely convinced your own constituency — Democrats or Republicans — are beginning to waver, then that’s when you start closing down and moving forward,” said Representative Jack Kingston, Republican of Georgia, who is running for the Senate.
He said that had not happened yet, “but I do think that what reopens shutdowns more than policy are polls.”He said that had not happened yet, “but I do think that what reopens shutdowns more than policy are polls.”
Economists across a broad spectrum agree that violating the debt limit — which could happen as early as next week, absent Congressional action — would probably severely damage the economy. The new Republican proposal could temporarily remove that threat.Economists across a broad spectrum agree that violating the debt limit — which could happen as early as next week, absent Congressional action — would probably severely damage the economy. The new Republican proposal could temporarily remove that threat.
Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew implored Congress on Thursday to raise the debt ceiling, warning the Senate Finance Committee of potentially severe market and economic repercussions if it did not.Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew implored Congress on Thursday to raise the debt ceiling, warning the Senate Finance Committee of potentially severe market and economic repercussions if it did not.
In testimony before the committee, Mr. Lew stressed that the Treasury Department would run out of “extraordinary measures” to free up cash in a matter of days. At that point, the country’s bills might overwhelm its cash on hand in addition to any receipts from taxes or other sources, leading to an unprecedented default.In testimony before the committee, Mr. Lew stressed that the Treasury Department would run out of “extraordinary measures” to free up cash in a matter of days. At that point, the country’s bills might overwhelm its cash on hand in addition to any receipts from taxes or other sources, leading to an unprecedented default.
Mr. Lew said that the Treasury had no workarounds to avoid breaching the debt ceiling. “There is no plan other than raising the debt limit,” he said. “The legal issues, even regarding interest and principal on the debt, are complicated.”Mr. Lew said that the Treasury had no workarounds to avoid breaching the debt ceiling. “There is no plan other than raising the debt limit,” he said. “The legal issues, even regarding interest and principal on the debt, are complicated.”
In not addressing the shutdown, Republicans would keep pressure on Democrats to negotiate on a package of deficit reduction and tax overhaul proposals.In not addressing the shutdown, Republicans would keep pressure on Democrats to negotiate on a package of deficit reduction and tax overhaul proposals.
Mr. Griffin, the Arkansas Republican, said that the plan the speaker presented appealed to him because it would give House Republicans some breathing room as they continued to try to plot their next steps.Mr. Griffin, the Arkansas Republican, said that the plan the speaker presented appealed to him because it would give House Republicans some breathing room as they continued to try to plot their next steps.
“We can’t even contemplate putting our full faith and credit, our credit rating and our financial system at risk, and this makes that clear,” he said.“We can’t even contemplate putting our full faith and credit, our credit rating and our financial system at risk, and this makes that clear,” he said.
House Republican leadership aides said the Nov. 22 date was picked to coincide with the Thanksgiving recess to add pressure on both parties to come to a compromise. But with so little time, Mr. Boehner conceded, “You could end up back in the same place.”House Republican leadership aides said the Nov. 22 date was picked to coincide with the Thanksgiving recess to add pressure on both parties to come to a compromise. But with so little time, Mr. Boehner conceded, “You could end up back in the same place.”
Representative Mark Meadows, a freshman Republican from North Carolina who was an initial champion of the “defund Obamacare” movement, said he was in favor of the new strategy.Representative Mark Meadows, a freshman Republican from North Carolina who was an initial champion of the “defund Obamacare” movement, said he was in favor of the new strategy.
“Really, what this is all about is negotiating and finding common ground,” he said. “This looks like a window to be able to do that, and I’m supportive.”“Really, what this is all about is negotiating and finding common ground,” he said. “This looks like a window to be able to do that, and I’m supportive.”
Meanwhile, a group of Republican senators began meeting with Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, to find a bipartisan solution to the twin fiscal impasses.Meanwhile, a group of Republican senators began meeting with Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, to find a bipartisan solution to the twin fiscal impasses.
The senators are examining a yearlong resolution to finance the government at levels that reflect the automatic spending cuts known as sequestration, but with added flexibility to help government agencies and departments deal with the tight budgets. The debt ceiling would also be raised.The senators are examining a yearlong resolution to finance the government at levels that reflect the automatic spending cuts known as sequestration, but with added flexibility to help government agencies and departments deal with the tight budgets. The debt ceiling would also be raised.
During the Senate hearing, Republicans chastised the administration for focusing on the debt limit more than the country’s debt, and for refusing to negotiate. Democrats and Republicans generally talked past one another at the hearing, with little agreement on how to raise the ceiling and how to manage the budget.During the Senate hearing, Republicans chastised the administration for focusing on the debt limit more than the country’s debt, and for refusing to negotiate. Democrats and Republicans generally talked past one another at the hearing, with little agreement on how to raise the ceiling and how to manage the budget.
If the Obama administration will not negotiate over entitlement programs like Medicare now, “when will they negotiate?” asked Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.If the Obama administration will not negotiate over entitlement programs like Medicare now, “when will they negotiate?” asked Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.
Mr. Lew said that the Obama administration would be willing to sit down and negotiate longer-term budgetary changes, but would not tie such negotiations to the debt ceiling. He would not say how long or how big a debt ceiling increase the administration wanted.Mr. Lew said that the Obama administration would be willing to sit down and negotiate longer-term budgetary changes, but would not tie such negotiations to the debt ceiling. He would not say how long or how big a debt ceiling increase the administration wanted.

Jackie Calmes contributed reporting.

Jackie Calmes contributed reporting.