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Hacking trial: Goodman warned 'We could all end up in jail' Hacking trial: Goodman warned 'We could all end up in jail'
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The News of the World's royal editor warned "We could all end up in jail" if payments to police officers were traced, the Old Bailey has heard.The News of the World's royal editor warned "We could all end up in jail" if payments to police officers were traced, the Old Bailey has heard.
Clive Goodman wrote the warning in an email to Beverley Stokes, the PA of managing editor Stuart Kuttner.Clive Goodman wrote the warning in an email to Beverley Stokes, the PA of managing editor Stuart Kuttner.
Two recipients were "in uniform" but Mr Goodman said they were untraceable. the jury heard. Two recipients were "in uniform" but Mr Goodman said they were untraceable, the jury heard.
Mr Goodman denies conspiracy to commit misconduct, while Mr Kuttner denies phone hacking charges.Mr Goodman denies conspiracy to commit misconduct, while Mr Kuttner denies phone hacking charges.
The jury in what is widely known as the phone-hacking trial was told that in an email exchange with Mrs Stokes in July 2005, Mr Goodman was told Mr Kuttner wanted to talk to him about cash payments to a contributor.The jury in what is widely known as the phone-hacking trial was told that in an email exchange with Mrs Stokes in July 2005, Mr Goodman was told Mr Kuttner wanted to talk to him about cash payments to a contributor.
In reply, Mr Goodman said he had written to Mr Kuttner saying there were only three sources he paid in cash, and quoted the email he had written to him.In reply, Mr Goodman said he had written to Mr Kuttner saying there were only three sources he paid in cash, and quoted the email he had written to him.
"Two are in uniform and we - them, you, me, the editor would all end up in jail if anyone traced their payments - and they've had Special Branch crawling all over them since we ran a five-paragraph story about an Operation Trident arrest at Clarence House."Two are in uniform and we - them, you, me, the editor would all end up in jail if anyone traced their payments - and they've had Special Branch crawling all over them since we ran a five-paragraph story about an Operation Trident arrest at Clarence House.
"Thanks to the way we pay them, they're untraceable."Thanks to the way we pay them, they're untraceable.
"The third is an executive at another newspaper who is also taking on potentially life-altering risks for us and will not accept any other form of payment," he wrote."The third is an executive at another newspaper who is also taking on potentially life-altering risks for us and will not accept any other form of payment," he wrote.
Another email in January 2006 referred to a contributor the jury has been told was a police officer. Mr Goodman says he "is a cash only contributor because of his extremely sensitive job... curtains for him and us".Another email in January 2006 referred to a contributor the jury has been told was a police officer. Mr Goodman says he "is a cash only contributor because of his extremely sensitive job... curtains for him and us".
'Work his magic''Work his magic'
The jury was also shown evidence that payments made by the now-defunct tabloid to private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were authorised by Mr Kuttner's office.The jury was also shown evidence that payments made by the now-defunct tabloid to private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were authorised by Mr Kuttner's office.
Mulcaire has already admitted hacking phones.Mulcaire has already admitted hacking phones.
Mr Goodman referred, in one message of April 2006 to Mrs Stokes, to payments that needed to be made to "Mr Alexander" - a codename for Mulcaire.Mr Goodman referred, in one message of April 2006 to Mrs Stokes, to payments that needed to be made to "Mr Alexander" - a codename for Mulcaire.
He told Mrs Stokes that Mr Alexander was "the most important in terms of the contact" and he was hoping to get a story about Prince Harry from him.He told Mrs Stokes that Mr Alexander was "the most important in terms of the contact" and he was hoping to get a story about Prince Harry from him.
The email read: "I'm relying heavily on him to work his magic over Harry's passing-out party."The email read: "I'm relying heavily on him to work his magic over Harry's passing-out party."
When reassured by Mrs Stokes that the payments were going to be made, Goodman told the PA: "Fantastic. I won't be found in the Thames wearing concrete wellies tonight."When reassured by Mrs Stokes that the payments were going to be made, Goodman told the PA: "Fantastic. I won't be found in the Thames wearing concrete wellies tonight."
He added in a further email to her on the subject of Mulcaire: "As long as they're useful, I don't ask many questions about their Sunday school records."He added in a further email to her on the subject of Mulcaire: "As long as they're useful, I don't ask many questions about their Sunday school records."
The court also heard of a 2006 proposal to cut Mulcaire's company Nine Consultancy's annual payments by £28,000 to £76,000.The court also heard of a 2006 proposal to cut Mulcaire's company Nine Consultancy's annual payments by £28,000 to £76,000.
On Wednesday, the jury were shown a series of documents relating to former news editor Ian Edmondson, including an email from editor Andy Coulson to all staff announcing Mr Edmondson's appointment.On Wednesday, the jury were shown a series of documents relating to former news editor Ian Edmondson, including an email from editor Andy Coulson to all staff announcing Mr Edmondson's appointment.
However, the jury were also shown Mr Edmondson's dismissal letter when he was sacked for gross misconduct in January 2011. It cites the reason for his dismissal as, "complicity in illegal interception of voicemail messages whilst working as Assistant Editor (News) at the News of the World."However, the jury were also shown Mr Edmondson's dismissal letter when he was sacked for gross misconduct in January 2011. It cites the reason for his dismissal as, "complicity in illegal interception of voicemail messages whilst working as Assistant Editor (News) at the News of the World."
Mr Kuttner, 73, from Woodford Green, Essex, and Mr Edmondson, 44, from Raynes Park in west London, deny conspiracy to intercept mobile phone messages. Mr Goodman, 56, from Addlestone in Surrey, denies conspiracy to commit misconduct in public office.Mr Kuttner, 73, from Woodford Green, Essex, and Mr Edmondson, 44, from Raynes Park in west London, deny conspiracy to intercept mobile phone messages. Mr Goodman, 56, from Addlestone in Surrey, denies conspiracy to commit misconduct in public office.
The trial continues.The trial continues.