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Phone-hacking trial: Reporter lied because he was 'toeing the line' Phone-hacking trial: Reporter lied because he was 'toeing the line'
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A former News of the World reporter said he lied to police when he was caught trying to hack a phone as he was "just toeing the line", a jury hears.A former News of the World reporter said he lied to police when he was caught trying to hack a phone as he was "just toeing the line", a jury hears.
Dan Evans, who was caught trying to hack into designer Kelly Hoppen's phone, said he "bitterly regretted not taking a braver course of action".Dan Evans, who was caught trying to hack into designer Kelly Hoppen's phone, said he "bitterly regretted not taking a braver course of action".
Evans, who has admitted hacking, said ex-editor Andy Coulson had direct knowledge of what he was doing in 2005.Evans, who has admitted hacking, said ex-editor Andy Coulson had direct knowledge of what he was doing in 2005.
Mr Coulson denies all charges including conspiracy to hack phones.Mr Coulson denies all charges including conspiracy to hack phones.
Under questioning from Mr Coulson's lawyer, Timothy Langdale QC, Evans reflected on his change of approach, saying: "I appear to be open, honest and truthful."Under questioning from Mr Coulson's lawyer, Timothy Langdale QC, Evans reflected on his change of approach, saying: "I appear to be open, honest and truthful."
'Sticky keys''Sticky keys'
Evans was arrested in August 2011 and produced a prepared statement for police.Evans was arrested in August 2011 and produced a prepared statement for police.
He told the Old Bailey that statement was "cobblers" and he had just been "maintaining the lie", claiming "the sticky keys defence" - that Ms Hoppen's phone may have been hacked accidentally because Evans had damaged keys on his mobile phone.He told the Old Bailey that statement was "cobblers" and he had just been "maintaining the lie", claiming "the sticky keys defence" - that Ms Hoppen's phone may have been hacked accidentally because Evans had damaged keys on his mobile phone.
He also admitted he had lodged papers as part of Ms Hoppen's civil claim against the NoW which repeated the lie and resulted in prosecution for perverting the course of justice.He also admitted he had lodged papers as part of Ms Hoppen's civil claim against the NoW which repeated the lie and resulted in prosecution for perverting the course of justice.
Evans said: "That was entirely my decision.Evans said: "That was entirely my decision.
"I was caught between the tabloid world, caught between very expensive lawyers... I'm very sorry for lying about that." "I was one person caught between...the prime minister, caught between the tabloid world, caught between highly paid lawyers I didn't know what to do, I'm very sorry for lying about that."
However, Evans then changed his story, admitted phone hacking and became a witness for the prosecution.However, Evans then changed his story, admitted phone hacking and became a witness for the prosecution.
He was asked why he had later said to investigators that "every journalist was mucking around with phone tapping?"He was asked why he had later said to investigators that "every journalist was mucking around with phone tapping?"
Evans told the jury: "I'm saying most reporters at that time had access to inquiry agents and were able to get people's phone records and medical records, not just at the News of the World but at other tabloid newspapers at that time."Evans told the jury: "I'm saying most reporters at that time had access to inquiry agents and were able to get people's phone records and medical records, not just at the News of the World but at other tabloid newspapers at that time."
Mr Langdale said: "Boiling it down to essentials you wouldn't really be a candidate for immunity unless you spoke about others (phone hacking)." Evans agreed.Mr Langdale said: "Boiling it down to essentials you wouldn't really be a candidate for immunity unless you spoke about others (phone hacking)." Evans agreed.
'Sweeping assertions''Sweeping assertions'
He was asked why he claimed phone hacking was discussed at daily editorial meetings at which he had not been present.He was asked why he claimed phone hacking was discussed at daily editorial meetings at which he had not been present.
Evans said he was told by someone who had been in a particular meeting.Evans said he was told by someone who had been in a particular meeting.
"As far as I was concerned it was so widely known, and so extensively, there was a very wide conspiracy within the organisation," he said."As far as I was concerned it was so widely known, and so extensively, there was a very wide conspiracy within the organisation," he said.
Mr Langdale later said: "You are prone to making sweeping assertions which are not based on fact."Mr Langdale later said: "You are prone to making sweeping assertions which are not based on fact."
Evans replied: "That is incorrect sir - though I understand why you may want people to believe that."Evans replied: "That is incorrect sir - though I understand why you may want people to believe that."
The reporter was also challenged over his claim during evidence on Tuesday that Mr Coulson exclaimed "Brilliant!" when he heard a tape of actress Sienna Miller's voicemail message to Bond star Daniel Craig.The reporter was also challenged over his claim during evidence on Tuesday that Mr Coulson exclaimed "Brilliant!" when he heard a tape of actress Sienna Miller's voicemail message to Bond star Daniel Craig.
Mr Langdale asked whether it was truthful evidence, to which Evans replied: "That is truthful. The exact word may be paraphrasing." Under questioning earlier, Evans said his use of the word "brilliant" was an attempt to paraphrase the scene in the newsroom.
Later, when he decided to speak to the police in an attempt to obtain immunity from prosecution, he told them that he wanted to honest for the sake of his children. "It is truthful evidence," he said "The general context of the exact word, brilliant, I was paraphrasing. I think the word came out of my mouth as... trying to explain the general sense of how happy he was.
Mr Langdale said: "Do you accept... you did not say the word brilliant in your police statements?" "Yes," replied the former reporter.
Later, when he decided to speak to the police in an attempt to obtain immunity from prosecution, Evans told them that he wanted to honest for the sake of his children.
But he said: "I can pinpoint the moment many years ago I took the wrong path. I want to look my kids in the eye and tell them they need to be honest... I want to go down my life on the right path."But he said: "I can pinpoint the moment many years ago I took the wrong path. I want to look my kids in the eye and tell them they need to be honest... I want to go down my life on the right path."
The jury has heard that Evans pleaded guilty to hacking at the Sunday Mirror between 2003 and 2005 and at the News of the World up to 2010. He also pleaded guilty to misconduct in a public office between 2005 and 2010.The jury has heard that Evans pleaded guilty to hacking at the Sunday Mirror between 2003 and 2005 and at the News of the World up to 2010. He also pleaded guilty to misconduct in a public office between 2005 and 2010.
Evans also confirmed he had admitted intending to pervert the course of justice.Evans also confirmed he had admitted intending to pervert the course of justice.
The court heard he entered into an agreement with the Crown Prosecution Service in 2012 and had given two statements since.The court heard he entered into an agreement with the Crown Prosecution Service in 2012 and had given two statements since.
Mr Coulson, 46, is one of seven people who deny charges related to phone hacking.Mr Coulson, 46, is one of seven people who deny charges related to phone hacking.
He also denies conspiracy to commit misconduct in a public office.He also denies conspiracy to commit misconduct in a public office.