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Rebekah Brooks 'did not know hacking was illegal' | Rebekah Brooks 'did not know hacking was illegal' |
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Rebekah Brooks has told the phone-hacking trial she did not realise the practice was illegal when she was editor of the News of the World | Rebekah Brooks has told the phone-hacking trial she did not realise the practice was illegal when she was editor of the News of the World |
Mrs Brooks said she "didn't think anybody, me included, knew it was illegal". | Mrs Brooks said she "didn't think anybody, me included, knew it was illegal". |
She told the Old Bailey she felt "shock and horror" after she discovered murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler's phone had been hacked. | |
Mrs Brooks, one of seven defendants on trial, denies four charges. | Mrs Brooks, one of seven defendants on trial, denies four charges. |
Asked was she ever asked to sanction the accessing of voicemails for a story during her time as editor of the newspaper, Mrs Brooks replied: "No." | Asked was she ever asked to sanction the accessing of voicemails for a story during her time as editor of the newspaper, Mrs Brooks replied: "No." |
She said: "No journalist ever came to me and said we're working on so and so a story but we need to access their voicemail and we need to ask for my sanction to do it. | She said: "No journalist ever came to me and said we're working on so and so a story but we need to access their voicemail and we need to ask for my sanction to do it. |
"Even though I didn't know it was illegal, I absolutely felt it was in the category of a serious breach of privacy." | "Even though I didn't know it was illegal, I absolutely felt it was in the category of a serious breach of privacy." |
Mrs Brooks denies conspiring to hack phones, conspiring to commit misconduct in public office, and conspiring to cover up evidence to pervert the course of justice. | Mrs Brooks denies conspiring to hack phones, conspiring to commit misconduct in public office, and conspiring to cover up evidence to pervert the course of justice. |
Mrs Brooks said she knew nothing about the tasking of the convicted phone hacker Glenn Mulcaire to access 13-year-old Milly's voicemails in 2002. | Mrs Brooks said she knew nothing about the tasking of the convicted phone hacker Glenn Mulcaire to access 13-year-old Milly's voicemails in 2002. |
She told the court she only became aware Milly's phone had been hacked on 4 July 2011. | She told the court she only became aware Milly's phone had been hacked on 4 July 2011. |
The NoW was closed later that month following the revelations. | |
Asked about her reaction to hearing the schoolgirl's phone had been targeted, the 45-year-old said: "Shock, horror, everything. I just think anyone would think that that was pretty abhorrent, so my reaction was that." | |
The court heard Milly's mobile phone was hacked between 10 and 12 April, when Mrs Brooks was on holiday in Dubai with her then husband, Ross Kemp. | |
Mr Laidlaw asked the former editor: "Was that ever brought to your attention at any point, firstly during your holiday in Dubai?" | |
"Absolutely not," Brooks said. | |
"Or thereafter?" Mr Laidlaw asked, to which she replied "No". | |
When asked if it was brought to her attention before 4 July 2011 she again replied "No." | |
Mr Laidlaw also questioned whether she would have sanctioned phone hacking if there had been a strong public interest. | |
Mr Brooks said she "may have done" but said the question was "hypothetical, because no-one ever asked me". | |
'Pretty normal' | 'Pretty normal' |
The court has also heard details of a contract which agreed to pay convicted phone hacker Mulcaire £1,769 a week, or £92,000 a year, to supply information. | The court has also heard details of a contract which agreed to pay convicted phone hacker Mulcaire £1,769 a week, or £92,000 a year, to supply information. |
Asked if she had seen the contract, Mrs Brooks told the Old Bailey: "No, I didn't." | Asked if she had seen the contract, Mrs Brooks told the Old Bailey: "No, I didn't." |
Asked by her barrister, Jonathan Laidlaw QC, whether her attention was ever drawn to the contract, which started on September 1, 2001, she said: "Not at the time, no." | Asked by her barrister, Jonathan Laidlaw QC, whether her attention was ever drawn to the contract, which started on September 1, 2001, she said: "Not at the time, no." |
Pressed on what she meant by "at the time", she added: "During my editorship." | Pressed on what she meant by "at the time", she added: "During my editorship." |
Mulcaire was jailed in 2007, along with the News of the World's then-royal editor, Clive Goodman, after admitting intercepting voicemails. | Mulcaire was jailed in 2007, along with the News of the World's then-royal editor, Clive Goodman, after admitting intercepting voicemails. |
Mrs Brooks said the NoW used "a lot" of investigators during the late 1990s and early 2000s, adding that it was "pretty normal" in Fleet Street. | Mrs Brooks said the NoW used "a lot" of investigators during the late 1990s and early 2000s, adding that it was "pretty normal" in Fleet Street. |
She said investigators did the "leg work" for journalists, citing an example when the newspaper traced convicted paedophiles living in the community. | She said investigators did the "leg work" for journalists, citing an example when the newspaper traced convicted paedophiles living in the community. |
She said Mulcaire's payments wouldn't usually have gone to her unless department heads were going over their budgets. | She said Mulcaire's payments wouldn't usually have gone to her unless department heads were going over their budgets. |
Mrs Brooks also denied seeing an internal email asking for a payment to Mulcaire in return for information on the killers of Jamie Bulger. | Mrs Brooks also denied seeing an internal email asking for a payment to Mulcaire in return for information on the killers of Jamie Bulger. |
"I never heard his name before he was arrested - I never heard the name of Glenn Mulcaire," she said. | "I never heard his name before he was arrested - I never heard the name of Glenn Mulcaire," she said. |
All seven defendants deny the various charges against them. | All seven defendants deny the various charges against them. |