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Carwyn Jones criticises Ann Clwyd's attacks on Welsh NHS Carwyn Jones criticises Ann Clwyd's attacks on Welsh NHS
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First Minister Carwyn Jones has criticised Labour MP Ann Clwyd for her attacks on the state of the Welsh NHS.First Minister Carwyn Jones has criticised Labour MP Ann Clwyd for her attacks on the state of the Welsh NHS.
He told AMs: "Ann Clwyd has produced no evidence and no facts."He told AMs: "Ann Clwyd has produced no evidence and no facts."
Mr Jones said Ms Clwyd had provided "anonymous" and "unattributable" comments that "can't be investigated".Mr Jones said Ms Clwyd had provided "anonymous" and "unattributable" comments that "can't be investigated".
She said last year deaths of patients waiting for heart surgery at University Hospital of Wales, Cardiff, were the equivalent of the Stafford Hospital scandal where patients died needlessly.She said last year deaths of patients waiting for heart surgery at University Hospital of Wales, Cardiff, were the equivalent of the Stafford Hospital scandal where patients died needlessly.
Monday's Times raised concerns of the Royal College of Surgeons about Welsh hospital waiting times, reporting that 152 patients had died in the past five years waiting for operations at the University Hospital of Wales and Swansea' Morriston Hospital. In her latest criticism, in an article in Monday's Times newspaper, Ms Clwyd said the NHS in Wales was facing a "crisis" and the latest waiting waiting times statistics were a "warning sign of deep problems in the Welsh NHS".
The newspaper quoted Ms Clwyd saying: "This is further firm evidence of the crisis facing the NHS in Wales.
"These are record-breaking figures of the worst kind, and are a further warning sign of deep problems in the Welsh NHS."
During First Minister's Questions on Tuesday, Mr Jones said Ms Clwyd had been asked "on more than one occasion" to produce the evidence to back up her claims.During First Minister's Questions on Tuesday, Mr Jones said Ms Clwyd had been asked "on more than one occasion" to produce the evidence to back up her claims.
When asked by Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies about Ms Clwyd's criticism of the length of waiting times in the Welsh NHS, Mr Jones said: "I'm afraid Ann has based her allegations on the way her husband was treated.When asked by Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies about Ms Clwyd's criticism of the length of waiting times in the Welsh NHS, Mr Jones said: "I'm afraid Ann has based her allegations on the way her husband was treated.
"She has refused permission for the report surrounding her husband's treatment to be made public."She has refused permission for the report surrounding her husband's treatment to be made public.
"I think it's important for people to make a judgement on what happened when that report is made public but that is ultimately a matter of course for others.""I think it's important for people to make a judgement on what happened when that report is made public but that is ultimately a matter of course for others."
'Ingrained problems''Ingrained problems'
Speaking later, Mr Davies said Welsh minsters should be "listening carefully and acting on her fears" rather than "condemning Ann Clwyd for speaking out".Speaking later, Mr Davies said Welsh minsters should be "listening carefully and acting on her fears" rather than "condemning Ann Clwyd for speaking out".
"Each and every time Mrs Clwyd has raised concerns they have been proved correct," he said."Each and every time Mrs Clwyd has raised concerns they have been proved correct," he said.
"I have asked the first minister if he will work with me to facilitate joint discussions with Ann Clwyd and, despite his response, I will continue to work towards this aim."I have asked the first minister if he will work with me to facilitate joint discussions with Ann Clwyd and, despite his response, I will continue to work towards this aim.
"Case after case. Fault after fault. The deeply ingrained problems within Labour's NHS are clear for all to see.""Case after case. Fault after fault. The deeply ingrained problems within Labour's NHS are clear for all to see."
Ms Clwyd has been asked to respond to the criticism.Ms Clwyd has been asked to respond to the criticism.