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Andy Coulson 'knew about phone-hacking project' | Andy Coulson 'knew about phone-hacking project' |
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Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson knew about a "project" to hack phones, the paper's former royal editor has told the phone-hacking trial. | Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson knew about a "project" to hack phones, the paper's former royal editor has told the phone-hacking trial. |
Clive Goodman answered "yes" when asked if his former boss knew the "Alexander project" involved private investigator Glenn Mulcaire hacking phones. | Clive Goodman answered "yes" when asked if his former boss knew the "Alexander project" involved private investigator Glenn Mulcaire hacking phones. |
Mr Coulson, editor between 2003 and 2007, denies conspiracy to hack phones. | Mr Coulson, editor between 2003 and 2007, denies conspiracy to hack phones. |
Both he and Mr Goodman deny conspiring to commit misconduct in a public office. | Both he and Mr Goodman deny conspiring to commit misconduct in a public office. |
Former royal editor Mr Goodman, 56, of Addlestone, Surrey, and private investigator Mulcaire were jailed for phone hacking in January 2007. | Former royal editor Mr Goodman, 56, of Addlestone, Surrey, and private investigator Mulcaire were jailed for phone hacking in January 2007. |
Royal phones | Royal phones |
Mr Goodman has previously told the Old Bailey his former editor agreed to payments in 2005 that led to three phones in the royal household being hacked. | Mr Goodman has previously told the Old Bailey his former editor agreed to payments in 2005 that led to three phones in the royal household being hacked. |
But Mr Goodman had stopped short of saying Mr Coulson knew about phone hacking at that time. | But Mr Goodman had stopped short of saying Mr Coulson knew about phone hacking at that time. |
Mr Coulson agreed to extra payments of £500 a week to Mulcaire, who had the codename "Alexander", Mr Goodman had told the jury. | Mr Coulson agreed to extra payments of £500 a week to Mulcaire, who had the codename "Alexander", Mr Goodman had told the jury. |
Under cross-examination on Thursday, Mr Goodman was asked: "You have told the court Andy Coulson, as a result of what you told him, knew that the source described as 'Alexander' was in fact Glenn Mulcaire, is that right?" | Under cross-examination on Thursday, Mr Goodman was asked: "You have told the court Andy Coulson, as a result of what you told him, knew that the source described as 'Alexander' was in fact Glenn Mulcaire, is that right?" |
Mr Goodman answered: "Yes." | Mr Goodman answered: "Yes." |
Timothy Langdale QC, for Mr Coulson, then asked: "And that what Mr Mulcaire was doing as part of the 'Alexander project' was hacking phones?" | Timothy Langdale QC, for Mr Coulson, then asked: "And that what Mr Mulcaire was doing as part of the 'Alexander project' was hacking phones?" |
Mr Goodman responded: "Yes." | Mr Goodman responded: "Yes." |
Mr Langdale went on: "So he knew all about that project... he knew it was Glenn Mulcaire hacking. That's what the 'Alexander project' was?" | Mr Langdale went on: "So he knew all about that project... he knew it was Glenn Mulcaire hacking. That's what the 'Alexander project' was?" |
To which Mr Goodman said: "Yes." | To which Mr Goodman said: "Yes." |
'Story-spotting payments' | |
Later in the hearing, Mr Goodman said NoW journalists were paid hundreds of pounds for spotting stories and quotations in rival papers which might provide copy for the Sunday tabloid. | |
He said one anonymous source, codenamed Mr Hall, received £200 for passing on a quote by singer Gene Simmons from the Daily Telegraph, which was then published in the NoW. | |
Mr Langdale asked Mr Goodman: "You were paying Mr Hall for his ability to read?" | |
Mr Goodman responded: "I was paying for his ability to spot a story that was up our street, in a long interview in a low-circulation paper... it is the sort of thing that is done all the time." | |
He later said: "The skill is in identifying the story and passing it through. Not getting it or writing it yourself." | |
Mr Goodman also denied keeping money which was meant to go to his sources for stories. | |
"Is it the case we just have to take your word for it that all the cash you received as a result of cash contribution requests actually went to that person concerned?" asked Mr Langdale. | |
"Have you got any other evidence to show the money actually went to the person in respect of the request?" | |
Mr Goodman replied: "It did." |