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UK non-Christian claims 'absurd', senior Tories say UK non-Christian claims 'absurd', senior Tories say
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The UK is a Christian country and those who deny it are "deluding themselves" and ignoring "reality", two senior Conservative MPs have said.The UK is a Christian country and those who deny it are "deluding themselves" and ignoring "reality", two senior Conservative MPs have said.
Attorney General Dominic Grieve and Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith told the Daily Telegraph modern Britain had "Christian heritage".Attorney General Dominic Grieve and Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith told the Daily Telegraph modern Britain had "Christian heritage".
Last week David Cameron said Britons should be "more confident about our status as a Christian country".Last week David Cameron said Britons should be "more confident about our status as a Christian country".
But a group of public figures objected and said the PM could cause "division".But a group of public figures objected and said the PM could cause "division".
Mr Grieve, a patron of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, said atheism had not made "much progress" in the UK.Mr Grieve, a patron of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, said atheism had not made "much progress" in the UK.
"Many of the underlying ethics of society are Christian-based and the result of 1,500 years of Christian input into our national life," he said."Many of the underlying ethics of society are Christian-based and the result of 1,500 years of Christian input into our national life," he said.
"It is not going to disappear overnight. They [atheists] are deluding themselves.""It is not going to disappear overnight. They [atheists] are deluding themselves."
'Fundamentalism' fear'Fundamentalism' fear
Mr Grieve went on to say that there had been a rise in the "assertiveness" of some religious groups, which some people with "softer religions" had found "disturbing".Mr Grieve went on to say that there had been a rise in the "assertiveness" of some religious groups, which some people with "softer religions" had found "disturbing".
"I do think that the rise of religious fundamentalism is a major deterrent to people," he said."I do think that the rise of religious fundamentalism is a major deterrent to people," he said.
"It is a big turn-off away from religion generally, and it's very damaging in that context.""It is a big turn-off away from religion generally, and it's very damaging in that context."
Mr Duncan Smith said claims that Britain was not a Christian country were "absurd" and ignored "both historical and constitutional reality".Mr Duncan Smith said claims that Britain was not a Christian country were "absurd" and ignored "both historical and constitutional reality".
"It is arguably our Christian heritage, with its innate tolerance and inclusivity, that has ensured the freedom of all voices - religious or non-religious - to be heard and to be valued," he said."It is arguably our Christian heritage, with its innate tolerance and inclusivity, that has ensured the freedom of all voices - religious or non-religious - to be heard and to be valued," he said.
Their comments come after criticism of Mr Cameron, who said people should be "more confident" in defending "Christian values".Their comments come after criticism of Mr Cameron, who said people should be "more confident" in defending "Christian values".
A group including academics, authors and philosophers responded in an open letter to the Telegraph in which they said Mr Cameron's description of Britain as a Christian country had "negative consequences for politics and society".A group including academics, authors and philosophers responded in an open letter to the Telegraph in which they said Mr Cameron's description of Britain as a Christian country had "negative consequences for politics and society".
The group, which included author Philip Pullman, comedian Tim Minchin and philosopher AC Grayling, wrote: "Repeated surveys, polls and studies show that most of us as individuals are not Christian in our beliefs or our religious identities."The group, which included author Philip Pullman, comedian Tim Minchin and philosopher AC Grayling, wrote: "Repeated surveys, polls and studies show that most of us as individuals are not Christian in our beliefs or our religious identities."
They added that claiming Britain was a religious society "fosters alienation and division".They added that claiming Britain was a religious society "fosters alienation and division".
In response to Mr Grieve and Mr Duncan Smith's comments, Andrew Copson, from the British Humanist Association, said: "We'll leave it to other people to argue whether, in light of its pre-Christian Anglo-Saxon and Roman influences and post-Christian enlightenment influences, our law can be described as Christian."
He said the letter "made it clear that we respect the right of people to their religious beliefs but that in a very diverse society like today's we need to build an inclusive national identity not a narrow one. To try and make this instead a war of words about religion as such is a distraction."
The 2011 census found 59% of people in England and Wales said they were Christians - down from 72% a decade earlier.The 2011 census found 59% of people in England and Wales said they were Christians - down from 72% a decade earlier.
In Scotland the figure was 54% - down from 65% - while the percentage fell slightly to 83% in Northern Ireland.In Scotland the figure was 54% - down from 65% - while the percentage fell slightly to 83% in Northern Ireland.