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The Prince of Wales tried to persuade Tony Blair's government to expand grammar schools, former education secretary David Blunkett has said.The Prince of Wales tried to persuade Tony Blair's government to expand grammar schools, former education secretary David Blunkett has said.
Charles "didn't like" it when his request was refused, according to a BBC Radio 4 documentary.Charles "didn't like" it when his request was refused, according to a BBC Radio 4 documentary.
Mr Blunkett is one of three former cabinet ministers interviewed for the documentary, The Royal Activist, the BBC reported.Mr Blunkett is one of three former cabinet ministers interviewed for the documentary, The Royal Activist, the BBC reported.
The former education secretary said: "I would explain that our policy was not to expand grammar schools, and he didn't like that.The former education secretary said: "I would explain that our policy was not to expand grammar schools, and he didn't like that.
"He was very keen that we should go back to a different era where youngsters had what he would have seen as the opportunity to escape from their background, whereas I wanted to change their background.""He was very keen that we should go back to a different era where youngsters had what he would have seen as the opportunity to escape from their background, whereas I wanted to change their background."
Mr Blunkett added: "I can see constitutionally that there's an argument that the heir to the throne should not get involved in controversy; the honest truth is I didn't mind.Mr Blunkett added: "I can see constitutionally that there's an argument that the heir to the throne should not get involved in controversy; the honest truth is I didn't mind.
"If you are waiting to be the king of the United Kingdom, and you've waited a very long time, you genuinely have to engage with something or you'd go spare.""If you are waiting to be the king of the United Kingdom, and you've waited a very long time, you genuinely have to engage with something or you'd go spare."
Former environment minister Michael Meacher said he and the Prince "would consort together quietly" to affect policy on climate change and genetically modified crops.Former environment minister Michael Meacher said he and the Prince "would consort together quietly" to affect policy on climate change and genetically modified crops.
"I knew that he largely agreed with me and he knew that I largely agreed with him," said Mr Meacher."I knew that he largely agreed with me and he knew that I largely agreed with him," said Mr Meacher.
"We were together in trying to persuade Tony Blair to change course.""We were together in trying to persuade Tony Blair to change course."
Another former Labour cabinet minister, Peter Hain, said they shared an interest in complementary medicine.Another former Labour cabinet minister, Peter Hain, said they shared an interest in complementary medicine.
"He had been constantly frustrated at his inability to persuade any health ministers anywhere that that was a good idea, and so he, as he once described it to me, found me unique from this point of view, in being somebody that actually agreed with him on this, and might want to deliver it.""He had been constantly frustrated at his inability to persuade any health ministers anywhere that that was a good idea, and so he, as he once described it to me, found me unique from this point of view, in being somebody that actually agreed with him on this, and might want to deliver it."
Mr Hain added: "When I was Secretary of State for Northern Ireland in 2005-7, he was delighted when I told him that since I was running the place I could more or less do what I wanted to do.Mr Hain added: "When I was Secretary of State for Northern Ireland in 2005-7, he was delighted when I told him that since I was running the place I could more or less do what I wanted to do.
"I was able to introduce a trial for complementary medicine on the NHS, and it had spectacularly good results, that people's well-being and health was vastly improved."I was able to introduce a trial for complementary medicine on the NHS, and it had spectacularly good results, that people's well-being and health was vastly improved.
"And when he learnt about this he was really enthusiastic and tried to persuade the Welsh government to do the same thing and the government in Whitehall to do the same thing for England, but not successfully.""And when he learnt about this he was really enthusiastic and tried to persuade the Welsh government to do the same thing and the government in Whitehall to do the same thing for England, but not successfully."
The Prince's policy interventions were supported by former prime minister Sir John Major, who said: "I think it is encouraging that the Prince of Wales is entirely free from his unique perspective to write to ministers or the prime minister in a way that is invariably intended to be helpful, and I think to cut that off, or to make sure those letters are much more bland than they otherwise might be, would be a loss."The Prince's policy interventions were supported by former prime minister Sir John Major, who said: "I think it is encouraging that the Prince of Wales is entirely free from his unique perspective to write to ministers or the prime minister in a way that is invariably intended to be helpful, and I think to cut that off, or to make sure those letters are much more bland than they otherwise might be, would be a loss."
Sir John also revealed that he occasionally changed policy as a result of discussions with the Queen - although he would not be drawn on the specific times this took place.Sir John also revealed that he occasionally changed policy as a result of discussions with the Queen - although he would not be drawn on the specific times this took place.
Asked if he remembered being influenced by the Queen, Sir John said: "I think every prime minister can think that, and can think of occasions where that happened...Asked if he remembered being influenced by the Queen, Sir John said: "I think every prime minister can think that, and can think of occasions where that happened...
"But the answer is yes of course. It would be very foolish indeed not to be influenced.""But the answer is yes of course. It would be very foolish indeed not to be influenced."
:: The Royal Activist is on BBC Radio 4 at 1.30pm today. The Royal Activist is on BBC Radio 4 at 1.30pm today.
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