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World Cup 2014: Argentina Fans Hope to Spoil Brazil's Tournament World Cup 2014: Argentina Fans Hope to Spoil Brazil's Tournament
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BRASÍLIA — There is a new song going around the World Cup, a ditty sung by the Argentines to taunt their Brazilian hosts and longstanding rivals. The gist is simple. It asks the Brazilians how they feel about being bossed around in their own country and tells them to prepare for an Argentine championship on their own soil.BRASÍLIA — There is a new song going around the World Cup, a ditty sung by the Argentines to taunt their Brazilian hosts and longstanding rivals. The gist is simple. It asks the Brazilians how they feel about being bossed around in their own country and tells them to prepare for an Argentine championship on their own soil.
It ends with the most incendiary statement of all: “Maradona es mas grande que Pele.”It ends with the most incendiary statement of all: “Maradona es mas grande que Pele.”
Even the Argentine players were singing it in their locker room after their 1-0 victory against Switzerland on Tuesday, just the latest salvo fired in one of international soccer’s greatest rivalries.Even the Argentine players were singing it in their locker room after their 1-0 victory against Switzerland on Tuesday, just the latest salvo fired in one of international soccer’s greatest rivalries.
The song, provocative and perhaps disrespectful, will probably be heard at Estádio Nacional on Saturday, when Argentina plays Belgium in a World Cup quarterfinal, as it was at a makeshift campground here filling up with Argentine fans. But the song is not nearly as provocative as what could come later.The song, provocative and perhaps disrespectful, will probably be heard at Estádio Nacional on Saturday, when Argentina plays Belgium in a World Cup quarterfinal, as it was at a makeshift campground here filling up with Argentine fans. But the song is not nearly as provocative as what could come later.
For many Brazilians, the notion of tens of thousands of Argentines roaming their countryside and descending en masse in various Brazilian cities is unappealing on its own. But the idea of them winning the World Cup on Brazilian soil, with Lionel Messi hoisting the trophy at Estádio do Maracanã and all those fans in sky blue and white drunkenly celebrating in the streets of Rio de Janeiro, is almost too much to bear.For many Brazilians, the notion of tens of thousands of Argentines roaming their countryside and descending en masse in various Brazilian cities is unappealing on its own. But the idea of them winning the World Cup on Brazilian soil, with Lionel Messi hoisting the trophy at Estádio do Maracanã and all those fans in sky blue and white drunkenly celebrating in the streets of Rio de Janeiro, is almost too much to bear.
Brazil desperately wants to win the World Cup. Just as desperately, most of its citizens recoil at the thought of the winners being the marauding invaders from the south.Brazil desperately wants to win the World Cup. Just as desperately, most of its citizens recoil at the thought of the winners being the marauding invaders from the south.
“Imagine for you, that the United State lost to Russia in basketball in New York with all their fans there to celebrate in Times Square,” said Marcelo Reis, a 35-year-old taxi inspector from Brasília. “It is just not acceptable.”“Imagine for you, that the United State lost to Russia in basketball in New York with all their fans there to celebrate in Times Square,” said Marcelo Reis, a 35-year-old taxi inspector from Brasília. “It is just not acceptable.”
His 30-year-old colleague, Ana Luisa Fibieredu, whose brother lives in Boston, said, “It is like the Red Sox winning in New York.”His 30-year-old colleague, Ana Luisa Fibieredu, whose brother lives in Boston, said, “It is like the Red Sox winning in New York.”
But more so.But more so.
There is little that gets under the skin of Brazilian soccer fans more than the Argentines, who have an illustrious soccer history of their own. But it is by no account as illustrious as Brazil’s. The hosts have won five World Cups; Argentina two. In a hotly disputed rivalry that dates back 100 years — to Sept. 20, 1914, when Argentina won, 3-0, in Buenos Aires — Brazil has the overall advantage: 43 wins, 37 losses and 24 draws.There is little that gets under the skin of Brazilian soccer fans more than the Argentines, who have an illustrious soccer history of their own. But it is by no account as illustrious as Brazil’s. The hosts have won five World Cups; Argentina two. In a hotly disputed rivalry that dates back 100 years — to Sept. 20, 1914, when Argentina won, 3-0, in Buenos Aires — Brazil has the overall advantage: 43 wins, 37 losses and 24 draws.
And yet many Argentines not only claim to be better at soccer, they say their best player, Diego Maradona, was better than Pelé, Brazil’s iconic star. What’s next? The tango is better than the samba?And yet many Argentines not only claim to be better at soccer, they say their best player, Diego Maradona, was better than Pelé, Brazil’s iconic star. What’s next? The tango is better than the samba?
“When I was a boy, I always heard we were the best in the world, when we had not yet won a world championship,” said Alejandro Sabella, Argentina’s 59-year-old coach. “It’s the way we are. It’s our culture.”“When I was a boy, I always heard we were the best in the world, when we had not yet won a world championship,” said Alejandro Sabella, Argentina’s 59-year-old coach. “It’s the way we are. It’s our culture.”
This is what the Brazilians get for hosting the World Cup. An estimated 100,000 Argentine fans have swarmed the country, in the eastern cities of Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte and particularly in Porto Alegre, which is not far from the Argentine border.This is what the Brazilians get for hosting the World Cup. An estimated 100,000 Argentine fans have swarmed the country, in the eastern cities of Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte and particularly in Porto Alegre, which is not far from the Argentine border.
For the past few days, they have been arriving in Brasília, Brazil’s on-edge capital city, easily distinguishable by their blue-and-white jerseys and Spanish accents.For the past few days, they have been arriving in Brasília, Brazil’s on-edge capital city, easily distinguishable by their blue-and-white jerseys and Spanish accents.
“I am a little nervous,” said Alfredo da Silva, a 22-year-old employee of a clothing store here. “They are very aggressive. Some of them are a little crazy.”“I am a little nervous,” said Alfredo da Silva, a 22-year-old employee of a clothing store here. “They are very aggressive. Some of them are a little crazy.”
Scenes of violence are not uncommon in the domestic leagues in both Argentina and Brazil, but there have been only a handful of fan-related incidents reported at this World Cup. But two involved Argentines, whose hard-core followers have reputations as being among the most belligerent in South America.Scenes of violence are not uncommon in the domestic leagues in both Argentina and Brazil, but there have been only a handful of fan-related incidents reported at this World Cup. But two involved Argentines, whose hard-core followers have reputations as being among the most belligerent in South America.
One was a simple gate-crashing affair at the Maracanã in Rio, and the other a drunken bottle-throwing incident involving Argentine and Brazilian fans in Belo Horizonte. The police ultimately broke it up with tear gas.One was a simple gate-crashing affair at the Maracanã in Rio, and the other a drunken bottle-throwing incident involving Argentine and Brazilian fans in Belo Horizonte. The police ultimately broke it up with tear gas.
There will be a heavy police presence Saturday, with 3,448 officers on hand from various branches of the Brazilian security forces — the same number used at the other World Cup games here, according to Paulo Roberto B. Oliveira, the secretary of public security in Brasília.There will be a heavy police presence Saturday, with 3,448 officers on hand from various branches of the Brazilian security forces — the same number used at the other World Cup games here, according to Paulo Roberto B. Oliveira, the secretary of public security in Brasília.
Oliveira has spoken with his counterparts in Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and Rio, asking about what to expect and how to prepare. He has also met with a delegation from the Argentine embassy here and has been gathering information from highway checkpoints to gauge the number of fans headed for Brasília.Oliveira has spoken with his counterparts in Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and Rio, asking about what to expect and how to prepare. He has also met with a delegation from the Argentine embassy here and has been gathering information from highway checkpoints to gauge the number of fans headed for Brasília.
Although a large number of fans, most without tickets, descended on Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and São Paulo, Oliveira said he thought the numbers would be smaller in Brasília, perhaps only 30,000, even as the games grow more important.Although a large number of fans, most without tickets, descended on Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and São Paulo, Oliveira said he thought the numbers would be smaller in Brasília, perhaps only 30,000, even as the games grow more important.
“They believe they will win and go to the semifinals,” he said. “Brasília is far away. Many of their fans are waiting for them to come back to São Paulo.”“They believe they will win and go to the semifinals,” he said. “Brasília is far away. Many of their fans are waiting for them to come back to São Paulo.”
Part of the thinking, also, is that Argentine tourists love beaches. As much as they were willing to visit the coast cities, fewer are inclined to travel to Brasília, a 13-hour drive from São Paulo.Part of the thinking, also, is that Argentine tourists love beaches. As much as they were willing to visit the coast cities, fewer are inclined to travel to Brasília, a 13-hour drive from São Paulo.
But many have made the trip. Argentines, more than most South Americans, travel by camper and motor home, Oliveria said. The federal district supplied a large parking lot nine miles from the stadium, replete with 120 showers, 60 toilets, a makeshift food court and television screens to watch the game, for those who do not have tickets. But many have made the trip. Argentines, more than most South Americans, travel by camper and motor home, Oliveira said. The federal district supplied a large parking lot nine miles from the stadium, replete with 120 showers, 60 toilets, a makeshift food court and television screens to watch the game, for those who do not have tickets.
“We want to welcome them with the minimum amount of services so they can stay here with dignity,” Oliveira said. “They are our guests.”“We want to welcome them with the minimum amount of services so they can stay here with dignity,” Oliveira said. “They are our guests.”
By Thursday night, about 20 campers, vans and a few buses set up camp in the parking lot as police officers, members of the Argentine embassy and a few Argentine police officers, acting as observers, stood watch.By Thursday night, about 20 campers, vans and a few buses set up camp in the parking lot as police officers, members of the Argentine embassy and a few Argentine police officers, acting as observers, stood watch.
“It is tranquil here, but far away,” said Luis Antonio Salcer, the driver of a bus that sleeps 12 and traveled more than 4,000 miles from Parana, northeast of Buenos Aires.“It is tranquil here, but far away,” said Luis Antonio Salcer, the driver of a bus that sleeps 12 and traveled more than 4,000 miles from Parana, northeast of Buenos Aires.
Leandro Arabem and his crew from Mendoza, near the Chilean border, have traveled farther. They drove for four days from Mendoza to Salvador in Brazil and have been on the road for five weeks, driving nearly 5,000 miles in their beat-up white van.Leandro Arabem and his crew from Mendoza, near the Chilean border, have traveled farther. They drove for four days from Mendoza to Salvador in Brazil and have been on the road for five weeks, driving nearly 5,000 miles in their beat-up white van.
Thursday night, they sat in folding chairs playing the card game Truco outside the decaying van, which sleeps four in makeshift bunks.Thursday night, they sat in folding chairs playing the card game Truco outside the decaying van, which sleeps four in makeshift bunks.
“As you can see, we have been on the road a long time,” Arabem said. “But the Brazilian people have been great to us. Very welcoming.”“As you can see, we have been on the road a long time,” Arabem said. “But the Brazilian people have been great to us. Very welcoming.”
Many of these fans are only temporary comrades. They support rival clubs in Argentina like the most famous, Boca Juniors and River Plate, where violence sometimes mars the games. But while on tour in Brazil, they are united.Many of these fans are only temporary comrades. They support rival clubs in Argentina like the most famous, Boca Juniors and River Plate, where violence sometimes mars the games. But while on tour in Brazil, they are united.
“For the World Cup we are friends,” said Ezequuiel Martinez, who flew in from Buenos Aires on Thursday. “But only for one month.”“For the World Cup we are friends,” said Ezequuiel Martinez, who flew in from Buenos Aires on Thursday. “But only for one month.”
As they drank beer and chatted about the games, the fans were all supremely confident, not only about the quarterfinal against Belgium, but about the whole tournament. As the song goes, they will boss Brazil around, even if they meet in the final at the Maracanã.As they drank beer and chatted about the games, the fans were all supremely confident, not only about the quarterfinal against Belgium, but about the whole tournament. As the song goes, they will boss Brazil around, even if they meet in the final at the Maracanã.
Oliveira, the security secretary whose job it is to ease tension, tried to be diplomatic about that prospect.Oliveira, the security secretary whose job it is to ease tension, tried to be diplomatic about that prospect.
“It would be great if Brazil plays Argentina at the final, and let the best team win,” he said. “Of course, that will be Brazil.”“It would be great if Brazil plays Argentina at the final, and let the best team win,” he said. “Of course, that will be Brazil.”