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| Scotland referendum: Carwyn Jones calls for reformed UK | Scotland referendum: Carwyn Jones calls for reformed UK |
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| First Minister Carwyn Jones has urged the people of Scotland to reject independence and help "rebuild" the UK. | First Minister Carwyn Jones has urged the people of Scotland to reject independence and help "rebuild" the UK. |
| He was visiting Scotland on Tuesday in support of the union after opinion polls put the two sides in next week's referendum neck-and-neck. | He was visiting Scotland on Tuesday in support of the union after opinion polls put the two sides in next week's referendum neck-and-neck. |
| The three main UK parties have all proposed extra powers for Scotland if its people vote to stay in the UK. | The three main UK parties have all proposed extra powers for Scotland if its people vote to stay in the UK. |
| But former Plaid Cymru leader Lord Wigley said Wales should have confidence to push for independence. | |
| Speaking on BBC Radio Wales, Carwyn Jones called for "solidarity" among the people of the UK. | Speaking on BBC Radio Wales, Carwyn Jones called for "solidarity" among the people of the UK. |
| He said: "There are enormous risks in independence and we in Wales want to make sure our fellow Celts are part of the union. | He said: "There are enormous risks in independence and we in Wales want to make sure our fellow Celts are part of the union. |
| "There's a great alternative - we can see further devolution, we can see greater autonomy for Scotland and to my mind for Wales but at the same time enjoying the benefits of being part of the UK and the EU as well. | "There's a great alternative - we can see further devolution, we can see greater autonomy for Scotland and to my mind for Wales but at the same time enjoying the benefits of being part of the UK and the EU as well. |
| "It's not all about fear... there is a positive alternative vision for Scotland." | "It's not all about fear... there is a positive alternative vision for Scotland." |
| UK's future | UK's future |
| Mr Jones accepted it had taken time for the pro-union parties to agree on "a common way forward", and called again for a constitutional convention to discuss the UK's future. | Mr Jones accepted it had taken time for the pro-union parties to agree on "a common way forward", and called again for a constitutional convention to discuss the UK's future. |
| "We should sit down and work out what the UK should look like over the next few years," he said. | "We should sit down and work out what the UK should look like over the next few years," he said. |
| "If things are clearer, it's easier for the general public... to understand who does what. | "If things are clearer, it's easier for the general public... to understand who does what. |
| "That process will have to happen whatever the result next Thursday so we have greater clarity in terms of the way the UK operates." | "That process will have to happen whatever the result next Thursday so we have greater clarity in terms of the way the UK operates." |
| Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies also called on Scottish voters to support the UK as a "positive example of social, economic and national union". | Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies also called on Scottish voters to support the UK as a "positive example of social, economic and national union". |
| "Everyone can celebrate their own nationality but also get the strengths that the union has brought for the last 300 years," he said. | "Everyone can celebrate their own nationality but also get the strengths that the union has brought for the last 300 years," he said. |
| "We should be celebrating that and emphasising what exactly is on offer for the next 300 years of the most successful economic and social union the world has ever seen." | "We should be celebrating that and emphasising what exactly is on offer for the next 300 years of the most successful economic and social union the world has ever seen." |
| But the former Plaid Cymru leader Lord Wigley said Wales should have the same confidence as Scotland in pushing for independence. | But the former Plaid Cymru leader Lord Wigley said Wales should have the same confidence as Scotland in pushing for independence. |
| 'Wider debate' | |
| "If I was a Scot I most certainly would be voting yes because that's the only way they will have control over the future well being of their country and not to be subservient to the needs of London and particularly the city of London from now to infinitum," he told BBC Radio Wales. | "If I was a Scot I most certainly would be voting yes because that's the only way they will have control over the future well being of their country and not to be subservient to the needs of London and particularly the city of London from now to infinitum," he told BBC Radio Wales. |
| He said if the Scots missed this chance to vote for independence they would "live to regret it". | He said if the Scots missed this chance to vote for independence they would "live to regret it". |
| Lord Wigley added: "We have got to get the political clout if we are going to get a fair deal for Wales whatever the outcome of this referendum and that is a central message." | Lord Wigley added: "We have got to get the political clout if we are going to get a fair deal for Wales whatever the outcome of this referendum and that is a central message." |
| Meanwhile deputy prime minister Nick Clegg has said greater devolution in England, Wales and Northern Ireland must follow the handing of greater power to Scotland if the referendum result goes against independence. | |
| Mr Clegg told MPs: "I don't think anyone should imagine that we can embark upon a new chapter of very significant devolution of further powers to Scotland without having a wider debate about how we decentralise power more generally across the United Kingdom." | |
| "The big missing bit of that jigsaw is to explore how we can decentralise the British state within England," he said. |