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| Miliband vows to fulfil Scottish devolution pledge | Miliband vows to fulfil Scottish devolution pledge |
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| Ed Miliband has said the pledge of further devolution to Scotland will be fulfilled "no ifs, no buts" amid a row over additional powers for England. | Ed Miliband has said the pledge of further devolution to Scotland will be fulfilled "no ifs, no buts" amid a row over additional powers for England. |
| He said he and other leaders made a "clear" pledge of new powers during the referendum and they must "honour" it. | He said he and other leaders made a "clear" pledge of new powers during the referendum and they must "honour" it. |
| The Labour leader said he was "open" to the idea of a new role for English MPs but not building a new English Parliament, as favoured by many Tories. | The Labour leader said he was "open" to the idea of a new role for English MPs but not building a new English Parliament, as favoured by many Tories. |
| No 10 has made it clear that it will not renege on its Scottish commitments. | No 10 has made it clear that it will not renege on its Scottish commitments. |
| But Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has said voters were "tricked" by the pledge to publish, in draft form, new powers for the Scottish Parliament on tax and welfare before the 2015 general election. | But Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has said voters were "tricked" by the pledge to publish, in draft form, new powers for the Scottish Parliament on tax and welfare before the 2015 general election. |
| He claims the timetable for delivering more powers in the event of a No vote - promised by the leaders of the three main Westminster parties in a joint declaration - is slipping because Mr Cameron cannot guarantee his backbenchers, who want more power for English MPs, will vote for it. | |
| In other developments: | In other developments: |
| 'Trap' | 'Trap' |
| The prime minister announced on Friday that he wanted tax-raising powers for Holyrood to be introduced at the same time as changes to the House of Commons, ending the anomaly which allows 59 Scottish MPs currently to vote on English-only legislation, such as health and education. | |
| But No 10 sources have made clear that "one is not conditional upon the other". | |
| Analysis by political correspondent Ross Hawkins | Analysis by political correspondent Ross Hawkins |
| Will Scotland only get more powers in Holyrood if Scottish MPs get fewer votes in Westminster? | Will Scotland only get more powers in Holyrood if Scottish MPs get fewer votes in Westminster? |
| It could sound that way. David Cameron said the two matters should be decided "in tandem". | It could sound that way. David Cameron said the two matters should be decided "in tandem". |
| His chief whip Michael Gove said it would be "impossible to move forward" without being certain of change in Scotland and England. | His chief whip Michael Gove said it would be "impossible to move forward" without being certain of change in Scotland and England. |
| Yet on the idea of swiftly drawing up plans that could stop Scottish MPs voting on England-only laws, Ed Miliband disagrees. It feels a lot like politics as usual. | Yet on the idea of swiftly drawing up plans that could stop Scottish MPs voting on England-only laws, Ed Miliband disagrees. It feels a lot like politics as usual. |
| The pre-referendum arrangement between the Westminster parties was designed to look very simple. Since the vote, things have grown complicated. | The pre-referendum arrangement between the Westminster parties was designed to look very simple. Since the vote, things have grown complicated. |
| And yet voices in all three parties are clear - they will make good their vow to Scotland. No ifs. No buts. The Scottish people will hold them to it. | And yet voices in all three parties are clear - they will make good their vow to Scotland. No ifs. No buts. The Scottish people will hold them to it. |
| Some in the Labour Party fear the surprise announcement is a "trap" that could undermine a future Labour government, which would rely on its Scottish MPs to give it a majority on key votes. | Some in the Labour Party fear the surprise announcement is a "trap" that could undermine a future Labour government, which would rely on its Scottish MPs to give it a majority on key votes. |
| Mr Miliband rejected this argument in an interview on the BBC's Andrew Marr programme, saying most Labour governments had also had a majority in England. | Mr Miliband rejected this argument in an interview on the BBC's Andrew Marr programme, saying most Labour governments had also had a majority in England. |
| He refused to be drawn on whether he supports the principle of England-only votes at Westminster, only saying that he was not against "greater scrutiny" by English MPs. | He refused to be drawn on whether he supports the principle of England-only votes at Westminster, only saying that he was not against "greater scrutiny" by English MPs. |
| Mr Miliband repeated his call for a national debate on the constitution, saying major changes of the kind being proposed by Mr Cameron could not be drawn up "on the back of a fag packet". | Mr Miliband repeated his call for a national debate on the constitution, saying major changes of the kind being proposed by Mr Cameron could not be drawn up "on the back of a fag packet". |
| 'Together, not apart' | 'Together, not apart' |
| "Let's not drive our country apart because David Cameron thinks it is an opportunity for him to do it. Let's keep our country together and it is very important we do it (change) in the right way." | "Let's not drive our country apart because David Cameron thinks it is an opportunity for him to do it. Let's keep our country together and it is very important we do it (change) in the right way." |
| He suggested the pledge for more powers for Scotland could be dealt with separately, telling Andrew Marr that the referendum campaign commitment would be kept. | He suggested the pledge for more powers for Scotland could be dealt with separately, telling Andrew Marr that the referendum campaign commitment would be kept. |
| "People right across the UK will say David Cameron made a promise. He did not make a conditional promise. He made a clear promise and he is going to be kept to that. | "People right across the UK will say David Cameron made a promise. He did not make a conditional promise. He made a clear promise and he is going to be kept to that. |
| "I know David Cameron will want to honour that promise....For my part, I am going to keep the promise I made…We are going to deliver on the pledge, no ifs not buts." | "I know David Cameron will want to honour that promise....For my part, I am going to keep the promise I made…We are going to deliver on the pledge, no ifs not buts." |
| The prime minister, he added, had not raised the English issue with him before they signed their joint "vow" with Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg ahead of Thursday's referendum. | The prime minister, he added, had not raised the English issue with him before they signed their joint "vow" with Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg ahead of Thursday's referendum. |
| The BBC's assistant political editor Norman Smith said Labour was looking at "a grand committee" of English MPs to consider English laws. | The BBC's assistant political editor Norman Smith said Labour was looking at "a grand committee" of English MPs to consider English laws. |
| 'Non-negotiable' | 'Non-negotiable' |
| The head of the Better Together campaign, Alistair Darling, said the pledge of extra powers for the Scottish Parliament is "non-negotiable". | The head of the Better Together campaign, Alistair Darling, said the pledge of extra powers for the Scottish Parliament is "non-negotiable". |
| "It was promised, it has to be delivered," he told the Andrew Marr show. "Anyone who welches on that will pay a very high price for years to come." | "It was promised, it has to be delivered," he told the Andrew Marr show. "Anyone who welches on that will pay a very high price for years to come." |
| "The three leaders gave an absolute commitment. I am confident they will deliver it." | "The three leaders gave an absolute commitment. I am confident they will deliver it." |
| And Lib Dem Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael said the government would be sticking to the undertakings given in respect of new powers for Scotland. | |
| "We've set out the timetable for the Scottish reform - there can be no movement from that timetable," he told BBC Radio 5Live's Pieenaar's Politics. | |
| Tory chairman Grant Shapps said there would be no "reneging" on the parties' Scottish commitments but a new English settlement had to be reached "at the same time". | Tory chairman Grant Shapps said there would be no "reneging" on the parties' Scottish commitments but a new English settlement had to be reached "at the same time". |
| "We fought for a no vote (in Scotland) even though we don't benefit," he told Dermot Murnaghan on Sky News "We put politics aside. Miliband needs to put politics aside." | "We fought for a no vote (in Scotland) even though we don't benefit," he told Dermot Murnaghan on Sky News "We put politics aside. Miliband needs to put politics aside." |
| And Mr Grayling said Holyrood should not receive more powers while Scottish MPs can still "shape the destiny" of the NHS and schools in England and force "socialist policies". | And Mr Grayling said Holyrood should not receive more powers while Scottish MPs can still "shape the destiny" of the NHS and schools in England and force "socialist policies". |
| "That would be a travesty of democracy, and would be regarded with fury by the English," he told the Sunday Telegraph. | "That would be a travesty of democracy, and would be regarded with fury by the English," he told the Sunday Telegraph. |