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HONG KONG — As dusk settled over Hong Kong, Regina Ip glanced out the window of her office in the Legislative Council building. Eight floors below, students chanted slogans as they prepared to escalate the student boycott that within 48 hours would turn into the most momentous street demonstrations on Chinese soil since the Tiananmen protests in Beijing a quarter-century ago.HONG KONG — As dusk settled over Hong Kong, Regina Ip glanced out the window of her office in the Legislative Council building. Eight floors below, students chanted slogans as they prepared to escalate the student boycott that within 48 hours would turn into the most momentous street demonstrations on Chinese soil since the Tiananmen protests in Beijing a quarter-century ago.
“We have an identity crisis,” Ms. Ip said in an interview in the past week. “These young people, they are congregating outside. There’s a lot of problems with them — their sense of identity. How come they cannot identify themselves with China?” “We have an identity crisis,” Ms. Ip said in an interview last week. “These young people, they are congregating outside. There’s a lot of problems with them — their sense of identity. How come they cannot identify themselves with China?”
Squaring Hong Kong’s British colonial heritage with its reality as a part of China is a problem that Regina Ip, student of Elizabethan poetry, former colonial official and now pro-Beijing lawmaker in Hong Kong’s legislature, has been tackling for decades. Her seesaw intellectual struggle in many ways is Hong Kong’s in microcosm, and she says her aim is to build an effective democratic system that fits Hong Kong’s reality: rule by Beijing.Squaring Hong Kong’s British colonial heritage with its reality as a part of China is a problem that Regina Ip, student of Elizabethan poetry, former colonial official and now pro-Beijing lawmaker in Hong Kong’s legislature, has been tackling for decades. Her seesaw intellectual struggle in many ways is Hong Kong’s in microcosm, and she says her aim is to build an effective democratic system that fits Hong Kong’s reality: rule by Beijing.
Ms. Ip is one of the few establishment figures seeking to meet with leaders of the Occupy Central movement to find a way to end the protests that have caught the world’s attention. “If you see it in a positive light, it’s another demonstration of our tradition of large-scale peaceful protests, if we can resolve it peacefully,” she said on Thursday. She said she may run for Hong Kong’s top post in 2017, seeking to replace the increasingly unpopular incumbent, Leung Chun-ying.Ms. Ip is one of the few establishment figures seeking to meet with leaders of the Occupy Central movement to find a way to end the protests that have caught the world’s attention. “If you see it in a positive light, it’s another demonstration of our tradition of large-scale peaceful protests, if we can resolve it peacefully,” she said on Thursday. She said she may run for Hong Kong’s top post in 2017, seeking to replace the increasingly unpopular incumbent, Leung Chun-ying.
For Ms. Ip, 64, the path of compromise was not always the natural choice. More than a decade ago, as Hong Kong’s top security official, she led the government’s push to pass a law on subversion and treason. Her efforts to ram the bill through the legislature, despite widespread concern that it would erode the city’s civil liberties, ended in failure and her resignation in 2003. She was also hobbled by her public statements, at one point remarking that democracy helped Hitler’s rise to power in Germany in the 1930s and the subsequent Holocaust, and that it was not “a panacea for all problems.” She later said she regretted making that comparison, though maintaining that the point about democracy not being a cure-all was a valid one.For Ms. Ip, 64, the path of compromise was not always the natural choice. More than a decade ago, as Hong Kong’s top security official, she led the government’s push to pass a law on subversion and treason. Her efforts to ram the bill through the legislature, despite widespread concern that it would erode the city’s civil liberties, ended in failure and her resignation in 2003. She was also hobbled by her public statements, at one point remarking that democracy helped Hitler’s rise to power in Germany in the 1930s and the subsequent Holocaust, and that it was not “a panacea for all problems.” She later said she regretted making that comparison, though maintaining that the point about democracy not being a cure-all was a valid one.
It was an unusual remark coming from someone who in the 1980s as a civil servant under the British helped set up some of Hong Kong’s first democratic institutions — elections for local councils. She then went to Stanford University and took a seminar on democracy taught be some of the world’s foremost scholars on the subject, Seymour Martin Lipset and Larry Diamond.It was an unusual remark coming from someone who in the 1980s as a civil servant under the British helped set up some of Hong Kong’s first democratic institutions — elections for local councils. She then went to Stanford University and took a seminar on democracy taught be some of the world’s foremost scholars on the subject, Seymour Martin Lipset and Larry Diamond.
And after her resignation in 2003 she went to Stanford again, this time to study under Mr. Diamond for a master’s degree. Her thesis was on how to build democracy in Hong Kong.And after her resignation in 2003 she went to Stanford again, this time to study under Mr. Diamond for a master’s degree. Her thesis was on how to build democracy in Hong Kong.
“She came here very burned and kind of wanting to withdraw and contemplate, and kind of recovered some political creativity and energy,” Mr. Diamond said in an interview. “And as a result of her thinking began to develop what she thought was some kind of middle way or independent path that could navigate this difficult contradiction between hopes for greater popular sovereignty in Hong Kong and a pace and level of reform that Beijing could be comfortable with.”“She came here very burned and kind of wanting to withdraw and contemplate, and kind of recovered some political creativity and energy,” Mr. Diamond said in an interview. “And as a result of her thinking began to develop what she thought was some kind of middle way or independent path that could navigate this difficult contradiction between hopes for greater popular sovereignty in Hong Kong and a pace and level of reform that Beijing could be comfortable with.”
Ms. Ip’s master’s thesis argued for a stronger political party system in Hong Kong and a chief executive, much like in the United States, who was also a party leader, giving him or her more authority. She viewed democracy as more of a tool than anything — a mechanism to help Hong Kong’s leader govern more effectively. She concluded in the thesis that “if this opportunity is seized to good effect, the spinoffs for the future democratization of China are immeasurable.”Ms. Ip’s master’s thesis argued for a stronger political party system in Hong Kong and a chief executive, much like in the United States, who was also a party leader, giving him or her more authority. She viewed democracy as more of a tool than anything — a mechanism to help Hong Kong’s leader govern more effectively. She concluded in the thesis that “if this opportunity is seized to good effect, the spinoffs for the future democratization of China are immeasurable.”
Now, though, she makes it clear that democracy has to be more than something nice to have in principle — it has to deliver. “While I fully support, understand the normative justifications for a democratic system, having seen Hong Kong’s democratic transformation, the big question in my mind is in what way more democracy added value,” Ms. Ip said in the interview.
After returning to Hong Kong she quickly set out to enter the public arena again, this time in the Legislative Council. In 2007, she ran in an election against her onetime boss, Anson Chan, the former chief secretary of Hong Kong. Mrs. Chan, who won the race, said in an interview that a desire to keep Ms. Ip out of the Legislative Council helped her decide to enter the race.After returning to Hong Kong she quickly set out to enter the public arena again, this time in the Legislative Council. In 2007, she ran in an election against her onetime boss, Anson Chan, the former chief secretary of Hong Kong. Mrs. Chan, who won the race, said in an interview that a desire to keep Ms. Ip out of the Legislative Council helped her decide to enter the race.
“Quite frankly, with her background, with her beliefs and with her character, I thought it would be sending to the community of Hong Kong quite a wrong message about democracy,” Mrs. Chan said in an interview. “I also knew, particularly with the entire Communist machinery behind her, the only person who stands a chance of defeating her is me. So that’s why I decided to run.”“Quite frankly, with her background, with her beliefs and with her character, I thought it would be sending to the community of Hong Kong quite a wrong message about democracy,” Mrs. Chan said in an interview. “I also knew, particularly with the entire Communist machinery behind her, the only person who stands a chance of defeating her is me. So that’s why I decided to run.”
Mrs. Chan said she doesn’t believe Ms. Ip really believes in democracy, saying, “a leopard doesn’t change its spots.”Mrs. Chan said she doesn’t believe Ms. Ip really believes in democracy, saying, “a leopard doesn’t change its spots.”
Ms. Ip successfully contested an election in 2008 and has been in the legislature ever since.Ms. Ip successfully contested an election in 2008 and has been in the legislature ever since.
Ms. Ip was recruited in London to serve in Hong Kong’s colonial-era civil service after studying the works of the 16th-century English poet Philip Sidney at the University of Glasgow. She speaks of the British colonial administrators with admiration — unusual because Chinese officials often view Hong Kong officials who rose through the ranks of the British system with suspicion. “My British bosses, they actually governed Hong Kong in accordance with Confucian values,” she said, noting that she received commendations from several colonial governors.Ms. Ip was recruited in London to serve in Hong Kong’s colonial-era civil service after studying the works of the 16th-century English poet Philip Sidney at the University of Glasgow. She speaks of the British colonial administrators with admiration — unusual because Chinese officials often view Hong Kong officials who rose through the ranks of the British system with suspicion. “My British bosses, they actually governed Hong Kong in accordance with Confucian values,” she said, noting that she received commendations from several colonial governors.
“Is Hong Kong Chinese or is Hong Kong Western?” she asked. “It is in our interest to be both.”“Is Hong Kong Chinese or is Hong Kong Western?” she asked. “It is in our interest to be both.”
It is her affection for Chinese culture, and passion for order and authority, that may draw her toward Beijing. Her website features a picture of former Prime Minister Zhu Rongji giving her a thumbs up during a meeting in Brussels in 2001, when she was Hong Kong’s top security official. And, like other pro-Beijing officials and lawmakers, she acknowledges Beijing’s authority. During an interview, she rattled off the names of senior officials she had just met in Beijing, where she had taken a delegation of business executives, quoting several of them in Mandarin.It is her affection for Chinese culture, and passion for order and authority, that may draw her toward Beijing. Her website features a picture of former Prime Minister Zhu Rongji giving her a thumbs up during a meeting in Brussels in 2001, when she was Hong Kong’s top security official. And, like other pro-Beijing officials and lawmakers, she acknowledges Beijing’s authority. During an interview, she rattled off the names of senior officials she had just met in Beijing, where she had taken a delegation of business executives, quoting several of them in Mandarin.
“The reality in Hong Kong, naturally, is we are part of China,” she said. “You can’t really go against Beijing. These students — all these protests, Occupy Central, class boycott — is not going to move Beijing.”“The reality in Hong Kong, naturally, is we are part of China,” she said. “You can’t really go against Beijing. These students — all these protests, Occupy Central, class boycott — is not going to move Beijing.”