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David Cameron seeks EU support for new migration curbs David Cameron seeks EU support for new migration curbs
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David Cameron has passionately urged other EU leaders to support his "reasonable" proposals for far-reaching curbs on welfare benefits for migrants.David Cameron has passionately urged other EU leaders to support his "reasonable" proposals for far-reaching curbs on welfare benefits for migrants.
Britain's prime minister said lower EU migration would be a priority in future negotiations on the UK's membership and he said would "rule nothing out" if he did not get the changes he wanted.Britain's prime minister said lower EU migration would be a priority in future negotiations on the UK's membership and he said would "rule nothing out" if he did not get the changes he wanted.
Under his plans, migrants will have to wait four years for certain benefits.Under his plans, migrants will have to wait four years for certain benefits.
Brussels said the ideas were "part of the debate" to be "calmly considered".Brussels said the ideas were "part of the debate" to be "calmly considered".
But UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the PM was "behind the curve" on immigration, while Labour said Mr Cameron had "no credibility" on the subject.But UKIP leader Nigel Farage said the PM was "behind the curve" on immigration, while Labour said Mr Cameron had "no credibility" on the subject.
In a long-awaited speech in a factory in the West Midlands, Mr Cameron said he was confident he could change the basis of EU migration into the UK and therefore campaign for the UK to stay in the EU in a future referendum planned for 2017.In a long-awaited speech in a factory in the West Midlands, Mr Cameron said he was confident he could change the basis of EU migration into the UK and therefore campaign for the UK to stay in the EU in a future referendum planned for 2017.
But he warned that if the UK's demands fall on "deaf ears" he will "rule nothing out" - the strongest hint to date he could countenance the UK leaving the EU.But he warned that if the UK's demands fall on "deaf ears" he will "rule nothing out" - the strongest hint to date he could countenance the UK leaving the EU.
The main proposals in the speech - which are dependent on Mr Cameron remaining in power after May's general election - are:The main proposals in the speech - which are dependent on Mr Cameron remaining in power after May's general election - are:
Mr Cameron said there was "no doubt" his package of proposals would require changes to the treaties governing the European Union.Mr Cameron said there was "no doubt" his package of proposals would require changes to the treaties governing the European Union.
'Must be heard'
He began his speech by saying migration had benefited the UK and that he was proud of the "multiracial" nature of modern Britain.He began his speech by saying migration had benefited the UK and that he was proud of the "multiracial" nature of modern Britain.
But he said immigration levels in recent years, which he said were the largest in peacetime, had put unsustainable pressure on public services. View from Europe: Adam Easton, BBC Warsaw Correspondent
He said the UK public's concerns about levels of EU immigration were "not outlandish or unreasonable" and the changes will create the "toughest welfare system" for migration in Europe. David Cameron's speech has made headlines here in Poland, with commercial news channel TVN24 lead on the story on its website.
"Cameron wants to raise a barrier to immigrants, including from Poland," it wrote.
But Mr Cameron's speech has not provoked the outrage here that his comments on Andrew Marr's show in January did.
Then Mr Cameron specifically mentioned Poles when he spoke about the need to crack down on EU immigrants claiming benefits payments in the UK. Polish government officials said his words "stigmatised" Poles and were discriminatory.
This time around Mr Cameron called the Polish Prime Minister Ewa Kopacz last night to appraise Warsaw about his speech.
When he mentioned the Poles in the speech he spoke about the contribution of Polish pilots during the Battle of Britain.
One Polish government official told me the speech was "rather moderate" and he noted Downing Street kept Warsaw in the loop about it.
The government here does not oppose moves in the UK to close benefit payment loopholes but Warsaw wants London to do it in a way that is non-discriminatory and in line with EU regulations.
I watched the speech with students at Torun's Copernicus University. Several told me they planned to go to the UK following their studies. None said the proposed benefit restrictions would put them off as they planned to work, not claim benefits.
But he said immigration levels in recent years, which he said were the largest in peacetime, had put unsustainable pressure on public services and demands for change were "not outlandish or unreasonable".
"We deserve to be heard and we must be heard," he said. "Here is an issue which matters to the British people and to our future of the European Union."We deserve to be heard and we must be heard," he said. "Here is an issue which matters to the British people and to our future of the European Union.
"The British people will not understand - frankly I will not understand - if a sensible way through cannot be found, which will help settle this country's place in the EU once and for all.""The British people will not understand - frankly I will not understand - if a sensible way through cannot be found, which will help settle this country's place in the EU once and for all."
Mr Cameron, who spoke to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker in advance of the speech, said he wanted the package to be adopted across the EU but that if it was not, he would seek a new arrangement applying only to the UK. Mr Cameron, who spoke to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker before the speech, said he wanted the package to be adopted across the EU but that if it was not, he would seek a new UK-only arrangement.
'Cap dropped''Cap dropped'
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said Mr Cameron's welfare curbs were "a tougher version of an approach already set out by Labour and the Liberal Democrats" but the proposed four-year limit on benefits would be difficult to negotiate in Brussels.BBC political editor Nick Robinson said Mr Cameron's welfare curbs were "a tougher version of an approach already set out by Labour and the Liberal Democrats" but the proposed four-year limit on benefits would be difficult to negotiate in Brussels.
Ideas of a cap on the numbers coming in had been abandoned, he added, amid the realisation the UK could not get support elsewhere in Europe for it.Ideas of a cap on the numbers coming in had been abandoned, he added, amid the realisation the UK could not get support elsewhere in Europe for it.
Analysis by BBC political editor Nick Robinson
It is a speech which David Cameron and his advisers have agonised over for months.
Ideas for it have been floated in the media, tested in capitals across Europe, debated with civil servants and, no doubt, market tested as well.
What is revealing is not just what has stayed in but what has come out.
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At the moment EU citizens are free to come to the UK and compete for jobs without being subject to any immigration controls. Those from outside the EU face much tighter controls if they wish to enter the country.At the moment EU citizens are free to come to the UK and compete for jobs without being subject to any immigration controls. Those from outside the EU face much tighter controls if they wish to enter the country.
Outlining proposed restrictions on tax credits and child benefits, Mr Cameron said a migrant in work with two children was getting £700 a month on average in support from the state, twice the amount paid in Germany and three times as much as in France.Outlining proposed restrictions on tax credits and child benefits, Mr Cameron said a migrant in work with two children was getting £700 a month on average in support from the state, twice the amount paid in Germany and three times as much as in France.
"No wonder so many people want to come to Britain," he said."No wonder so many people want to come to Britain," he said.
Dr Carlos Vargas-Silva, a migration expert at Oxford University, told the BBC there were an estimated 50,000 EU migrants who have been in the UK for fewer than four years claiming tax credits, adding that the changes could have a real impact.Dr Carlos Vargas-Silva, a migration expert at Oxford University, told the BBC there were an estimated 50,000 EU migrants who have been in the UK for fewer than four years claiming tax credits, adding that the changes could have a real impact.
Mr Cameron responded to criticism that the Conservatives' stated aim in its 2010 manifesto to reduce overall levels of net migration below 100,000 was "in tatters".Mr Cameron responded to criticism that the Conservatives' stated aim in its 2010 manifesto to reduce overall levels of net migration below 100,000 was "in tatters".
Net migration - the numbers coming to live in Britain minus those leaving - is estimated to have risen by 78,000 to 260,000 in the year to June, 16,000 higher than in 2010.Net migration - the numbers coming to live in Britain minus those leaving - is estimated to have risen by 78,000 to 260,000 in the year to June, 16,000 higher than in 2010.
The PM acknowledged the goal would not met by May, blaming the economic weakness in the eurozone, and said "more time and work" was needed to accomplish it.The PM acknowledged the goal would not met by May, blaming the economic weakness in the eurozone, and said "more time and work" was needed to accomplish it.
Tory MPs responded positively to the speech but several urged him to go further. 'Negotiating position'
Jacob Rees-Mogg said Mr Cameron's promise to "rule nothing out" if his proposals are not agreed "has to mean that he is willing to campaign to leave, and that's very important and I believe strengthens his negotiating position substantially". Tory MPs reacted positively to the speech but several urged him to go further.
Jacob Rees-Mogg said Mr Cameron's language indicated "he is willing to campaign to leave (the EU) and I believe that strengthens his negotiating position substantially".
But Bill Cash, chairman of the Commons European Scrutiny Committee, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One the proposals did not go far enough, while another Conservative MP, Nigel Mills, said an outright cap on numbers was needed.But Bill Cash, chairman of the Commons European Scrutiny Committee, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One the proposals did not go far enough, while another Conservative MP, Nigel Mills, said an outright cap on numbers was needed.
Analysis by BBC home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani The Labour leader said Mr Cameron had "made a promise at the last general election". "He said 'no ifs, no buts' he will get net migration down and it's gone up."
The prime minister's speech on immigration has been billed as a plan that will change the face of the nation.
But the official figures published on Thursday show how it has already been transformed and will continue to change in an era of mass movement of people.
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Reacting to Mr Cameron's speech, Mr Miliband said: "This is somebody who made a promise at the last general election. He said 'no ifs, no buts' he will get net migration down and it's gone up."
Mr Farage said the prime minister should have apologised for missing his immigration target, and said he was "playing catch-up" with UKIP.Mr Farage said the prime minister should have apologised for missing his immigration target, and said he was "playing catch-up" with UKIP.
He added: "He cannot control immigration from the EU and has revealingly dropped his suggestions of a cap or an emergency brake on numbers coming in."He added: "He cannot control immigration from the EU and has revealingly dropped his suggestions of a cap or an emergency brake on numbers coming in."
European Commission spokesman Margaritis Schinas said : "These are UK ideas and they are part of the debate.European Commission spokesman Margaritis Schinas said : "These are UK ideas and they are part of the debate.
"They will have to be examined without drama and should be discussed calmly and carefully. It is up to national lawmakers to fight against abuses of the system and the EU law allows for this.""They will have to be examined without drama and should be discussed calmly and carefully. It is up to national lawmakers to fight against abuses of the system and the EU law allows for this."
Have you moved to the UK from another EU country in the last four years? Will you be affected by the proposed changes? Email haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk with your reaction to the proposals.Have you moved to the UK from another EU country in the last four years? Will you be affected by the proposed changes? Email haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk with your reaction to the proposals.
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