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US economy grows at fastest pace in a decade – live US economy grows at fastest pace in a decade – live
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European markets keep Santa rally goingEuropean markets keep Santa rally going
On the last full trading day before Christmas, European shares shrugged off worries about the weak oil price to record another positive performance. There was a mixed bag of economic news, with UK growth disappointing but US GDP stronger than expected. The failure of the second Greek presidential vote, while not unexpected, acted as a slight restraint on the positive mood, with the Athens market not surprisingly falling back. The final scores showed:On the last full trading day before Christmas, European shares shrugged off worries about the weak oil price to record another positive performance. There was a mixed bag of economic news, with UK growth disappointing but US GDP stronger than expected. The failure of the second Greek presidential vote, while not unexpected, acted as a slight restraint on the positive mood, with the Athens market not surprisingly falling back. The final scores showed:
On Wall Street the Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently 81 points or 0.45% higher at 18,040.On Wall Street the Dow Jones Industrial Average is currently 81 points or 0.45% higher at 18,040.
The rouble is up around 1.6% to just below 55 to the dollar, while Brent crude is up 1% at $60.74.The rouble is up around 1.6% to just below 55 to the dollar, while Brent crude is up 1% at $60.74.
On that note it’s time to close up for the evening. Thanks for all your comments and we’ll be back tomorrow.On that note it’s time to close up for the evening. Thanks for all your comments and we’ll be back tomorrow.
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Dow set for the fifth fastest 1,000-point rise in history. $DJIA http://t.co/ZzRNzbtvdO pic.twitter.com/utbo1kCpZ0Dow set for the fifth fastest 1,000-point rise in history. $DJIA http://t.co/ZzRNzbtvdO pic.twitter.com/utbo1kCpZ0
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As the Dow Jones Industrial Average passes through 18,000 to a new high, and the S&P 500 also setting an intra-day record in the wake of the GDP figures, it is no surprise that the US is outpacing other markets. But here’s the visual evidence:As the Dow Jones Industrial Average passes through 18,000 to a new high, and the S&P 500 also setting an intra-day record in the wake of the GDP figures, it is no surprise that the US is outpacing other markets. But here’s the visual evidence:
A contender for chart of the year: MSCI World Index (excluding the U.S.) vs. the MSCI U.S. Index pic.twitter.com/oVW4VzpcHGA contender for chart of the year: MSCI World Index (excluding the U.S.) vs. the MSCI U.S. Index pic.twitter.com/oVW4VzpcHG
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And now a disappointing US number.And now a disappointing US number.
Sales of new single family homes fell for the second month in a row in November, down 1.6% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 438,000 units compared with expectations of a rise to 460,000.Sales of new single family homes fell for the second month in a row in November, down 1.6% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 438,000 units compared with expectations of a rise to 460,000.
To emphasise the fragility of the US housing market, October’s figure was revised down from 458,000 to 445,000.To emphasise the fragility of the US housing market, October’s figure was revised down from 458,000 to 445,000.
US New Home Sales drop 1.6% in November following on from yesterday's poor Existing Home sales numbers.US New Home Sales drop 1.6% in November following on from yesterday's poor Existing Home sales numbers.
Separately consumer spending recorded its biggest gain in three months, up 0.6% in November according to the Commerce Department, as the fall in oil prices gave people more disposable income.Separately consumer spending recorded its biggest gain in three months, up 0.6% in November according to the Commerce Department, as the fall in oil prices gave people more disposable income.
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US consumer confidence hit its best level for nearly eight years this month, thanks to cheaper petrol (sorry, gasoline) prices and better job and wage prospects.US consumer confidence hit its best level for nearly eight years this month, thanks to cheaper petrol (sorry, gasoline) prices and better job and wage prospects.
The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan index came in at 93.6 on its final reading, the highest since January 2007 and up from 88.8 in November. It was just below the initial estimate of 93.8 but better than the 93.5 that analysts had been expecting.The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan index came in at 93.6 on its final reading, the highest since January 2007 and up from 88.8 in November. It was just below the initial estimate of 93.8 but better than the 93.5 that analysts had been expecting.
Richard Curtin, the survey’s director, said:Richard Curtin, the survey’s director, said:
Consumers held the most favourable long-term prospects for the national economy in the past decade. Importantly, the 2014 gains in jobs and wages were widespread across all population subgroups and regions.Consumers held the most favourable long-term prospects for the national economy in the past decade. Importantly, the 2014 gains in jobs and wages were widespread across all population subgroups and regions.
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Of course, the upbeat US data has revived the prospect of higher interest rates from the Federal Reserve, reflected in a rise in the dollar. Michael Hewson at CMC Markets said:Of course, the upbeat US data has revived the prospect of higher interest rates from the Federal Reserve, reflected in a rise in the dollar. Michael Hewson at CMC Markets said:
What this data does...is raise expectations that the Fed might find it much more difficult to resist calls for tighter policy as we head into 2015 irrespective of the deflationary effects of the recent falls in the oil price.What this data does...is raise expectations that the Fed might find it much more difficult to resist calls for tighter policy as we head into 2015 irrespective of the deflationary effects of the recent falls in the oil price.
The performance of the US dollar would also appear to reflect that with the US dollar index posting its best levels since 2006, and the euro/dollar and dollar/yen looking to test and potentially break some very important technical levels.The performance of the US dollar would also appear to reflect that with the US dollar index posting its best levels since 2006, and the euro/dollar and dollar/yen looking to test and potentially break some very important technical levels.
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Dow Jones hits 18,000 for the first timeDow Jones hits 18,000 for the first time
Wall Street has opened, and in the wake of the better than expected US growth numbers, it has opened well.Wall Street has opened, and in the wake of the better than expected US growth numbers, it has opened well.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average is up 54 points or 0.3% to break through the 18,000 barrier for the first time. while the S&P has climbed 4.42 points or 0.2%.The Dow Jones Industrial Average is up 54 points or 0.3% to break through the 18,000 barrier for the first time. while the S&P has climbed 4.42 points or 0.2%.
More US data is due shortly, including confidence, housing and manufacturing figures.More US data is due shortly, including confidence, housing and manufacturing figures.
Dow Jones above 18,000, meaning it has risen 1,000 points ... in just one week: pic.twitter.com/wAFUZ44Y6ADow Jones above 18,000, meaning it has risen 1,000 points ... in just one week: pic.twitter.com/wAFUZ44Y6A
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Allianz chief economist, Mohamed El-Erian, points out that the US is diverging from other advanced economies....Allianz chief economist, Mohamed El-Erian, points out that the US is diverging from other advanced economies....
The "wow" revision (up to 5%) in US Q3 #GDP higlights global economic/policy #divergence . Look for many analysts to revist 2015 projectionsThe "wow" revision (up to 5%) in US Q3 #GDP higlights global economic/policy #divergence . Look for many analysts to revist 2015 projections
2.21pm GMT2.21pm GMT
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Respective GDP revisions today another reason to expect the Fed to hike rates before the Bank of England.Respective GDP revisions today another reason to expect the Fed to hike rates before the Bank of England.
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There is one small fly in the ointment - sales of US durable goods (items meant to last at least three years) fell by 0.7% in November.There is one small fly in the ointment - sales of US durable goods (items meant to last at least three years) fell by 0.7% in November.
2.14pm GMT2.14pm GMT
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This is the latest in a stream of decent-looking US economic data that hasn’t (yet at least) boosted president Obama’s popularity, points out the FT’s Richard Blackden:This is the latest in a stream of decent-looking US economic data that hasn’t (yet at least) boosted president Obama’s popularity, points out the FT’s Richard Blackden:
US GDP: 5%, Job growth: 321,000; Gas:$2.40 Obama poll rating: 45%. Clinton adage "it's all about the economy" looks out of date post crisisUS GDP: 5%, Job growth: 321,000; Gas:$2.40 Obama poll rating: 45%. Clinton adage "it's all about the economy" looks out of date post crisis
2.11pm GMT2.11pm GMT
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US growth rate surges to 5%: Early reactionUS growth rate surges to 5%: Early reaction
From 1981-2000, US had 21 quarters of 5% real GDP growth or faster, since then, just 2 -- including 3Q 2014From 1981-2000, US had 21 quarters of 5% real GDP growth or faster, since then, just 2 -- including 3Q 2014
US GDP data just enhanced US/Eurozone economies' decoupling. US rates hike & EZ QE getting closer.US GDP data just enhanced US/Eurozone economies' decoupling. US rates hike & EZ QE getting closer.
Blistering 5% US GDP growth pushes dollar to 8-yr high. Increasingly looks like its 3-decade downtrend may be over: pic.twitter.com/wTOLerOkGVBlistering 5% US GDP growth pushes dollar to 8-yr high. Increasingly looks like its 3-decade downtrend may be over: pic.twitter.com/wTOLerOkGV
Merry Xmas #US - #Consumer spending powers Q3 #GDP to 5.0% #rate http://t.co/FKthV0EQ3K #Market #Business #Investment #Equity #Stocks #MoneyMerry Xmas #US - #Consumer spending powers Q3 #GDP to 5.0% #rate http://t.co/FKthV0EQ3K #Market #Business #Investment #Equity #Stocks #Money
2.03pm GMT2.03pm GMT
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The outlook for US growth looks “rosy”, says Paul Dales of Capital Economics, even though today’s data shows families had to dip into their savings.The outlook for US growth looks “rosy”, says Paul Dales of Capital Economics, even though today’s data shows families had to dip into their savings.
Dales explains:Dales explains:
The upward revision to third-quarter annualised GDP growth, to 5.0% from 3.9% (consensus 4.3%), left the economy expanding at its fastest rate in 11 years. The revision was mainly due to faster consumption growth (3.2% v.s. 2.2%). That was despite a downward revision to annualised growth of real disposable incomes (to 2.0% from 2.3%), which suggests households reduced their saving rate.The upward revision to third-quarter annualised GDP growth, to 5.0% from 3.9% (consensus 4.3%), left the economy expanding at its fastest rate in 11 years. The revision was mainly due to faster consumption growth (3.2% v.s. 2.2%). That was despite a downward revision to annualised growth of real disposable incomes (to 2.0% from 2.3%), which suggests households reduced their saving rate.
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The US Dow Jones index is expected to smash through the 18,000 point mark for the first time, when trading begins in 30 minutes.The US Dow Jones index is expected to smash through the 18,000 point mark for the first time, when trading begins in 30 minutes.
ALERT: Dow futures indicating an open above 18,000 for the first time ever. http://t.co/SLY593j96l pic.twitter.com/TgUssc2OKdALERT: Dow futures indicating an open above 18,000 for the first time ever. http://t.co/SLY593j96l pic.twitter.com/TgUssc2OKd
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AP: US growth is sizzlingAP: US growth is sizzling
Here’s Associated Press’s take on the forecast-busting American growth data:Here’s Associated Press’s take on the forecast-busting American growth data:
US economy grew at fast 5 pct. annual rate in Q3US economy grew at fast 5 pct. annual rate in Q3
The U.S. economy grew at a sizzling 5% annual rate in the July-September period, the fastest in more than a decade, boosted by strength in consumer spending and business investment.The U.S. economy grew at a sizzling 5% annual rate in the July-September period, the fastest in more than a decade, boosted by strength in consumer spending and business investment.
The Commerce Department on Tuesday sharply revised up its estimate of third-quarter growth from a previous figure of 3.9%. Much of the strength came from consumer spending on health care and business spending on structures and computer software.The Commerce Department on Tuesday sharply revised up its estimate of third-quarter growth from a previous figure of 3.9%. Much of the strength came from consumer spending on health care and business spending on structures and computer software.
It was the fastest quarterly growth since the summer of 2003. It followed a 4.6% annual growth rate in the April-June quarter.It was the fastest quarterly growth since the summer of 2003. It followed a 4.6% annual growth rate in the April-June quarter.
Most economists think growth is slowing to an annual rate of around 2.5% in the current October-December quarter. They foresee growth around 3% in 2015.Most economists think growth is slowing to an annual rate of around 2.5% in the current October-December quarter. They foresee growth around 3% in 2015.
That would be the strongest figure since the economy expanded 3.3% in 2005, two years before the Great Recession began.That would be the strongest figure since the economy expanded 3.3% in 2005, two years before the Great Recession began.
The 2007-2009 downturn, the worst since the 1930s, cost millions of people their jobs. Since then, the economy has struggled to regain full health. Even after the recession ended in June 2009, the economy has turned in mediocre growth rates averaging 2.2 percent annually.The 2007-2009 downturn, the worst since the 1930s, cost millions of people their jobs. Since then, the economy has struggled to regain full health. Even after the recession ended in June 2009, the economy has turned in mediocre growth rates averaging 2.2 percent annually.
But many analysts think growth is finally set to accelerate as more businesses have grown confident about hiring. The country is on track to have its healthiest year for job growth since 1999. In November, employers added 321,000 jobs, the biggest one-month increase in three years.But many analysts think growth is finally set to accelerate as more businesses have grown confident about hiring. The country is on track to have its healthiest year for job growth since 1999. In November, employers added 321,000 jobs, the biggest one-month increase in three years.
With more people working and having money to spend, solid gains are expected in consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.With more people working and having money to spend, solid gains are expected in consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy.
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A quick note: It can be confusing to compare US and UK GDP data, because America reports an ‘annualised’ growth rate, in this case a remarkable 5.0%.A quick note: It can be confusing to compare US and UK GDP data, because America reports an ‘annualised’ growth rate, in this case a remarkable 5.0%.
That means it actually grew by around 1.25% in July-September.That means it actually grew by around 1.25% in July-September.
In comparison, the UK expanded by 0.7%, or 2.8% on an annualised basis. That’s different to Britain’s year-on-year growth rate, which was revised down to 2.6% earlier today.In comparison, the UK expanded by 0.7%, or 2.8% on an annualised basis. That’s different to Britain’s year-on-year growth rate, which was revised down to 2.6% earlier today.
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The Commerce Department says that personal consumption, business investment, federal and local government spending, and exports all contributed to US growth in the last quarter.The Commerce Department says that personal consumption, business investment, federal and local government spending, and exports all contributed to US growth in the last quarter.
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US consumer spending and business investment were both stronger than first estimated, leading the US Commerce Department to revise up its estimate for US growth to 5% (annualised).US consumer spending and business investment were both stronger than first estimated, leading the US Commerce Department to revise up its estimate for US growth to 5% (annualised).
1.34pm GMT1.34pm GMT
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US smashes forecasts with 5.0% annualised growthUS smashes forecasts with 5.0% annualised growth
Breaking! The US economy grew at a blistering 5.0% annual rate in the third quarter of 2014, the fastest rate in over a decade.Breaking! The US economy grew at a blistering 5.0% annual rate in the third quarter of 2014, the fastest rate in over a decade.
That’s the equivalent of 1.25% growth quarter-on-quarter.That’s the equivalent of 1.25% growth quarter-on-quarter.
The previous estimate was a 3.9% annual rate, or almost 1% quarter-on-quarter.The previous estimate was a 3.9% annual rate, or almost 1% quarter-on-quarter.
So, a BIG beat, and a genuinely strong reading. It’s the fastest quarterly rate since the third quarter of 2003.So, a BIG beat, and a genuinely strong reading. It’s the fastest quarterly rate since the third quarter of 2003.
The Commerce Departmant has revised up its forecast for consumer spending, and business investment.The Commerce Departmant has revised up its forecast for consumer spending, and business investment.
Bottom line: the US economy is picking up pace, at a time when Europe is stagnating, Japan is back in recession, China is slowing, and Russia is risking a full-blown crisis.Bottom line: the US economy is picking up pace, at a time when Europe is stagnating, Japan is back in recession, China is slowing, and Russia is risking a full-blown crisis.
Details and reaction to follow...Details and reaction to follow...
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OK, it’s nearly time for the next data splurge – updated GDP data from the US and Canada for the last quarter....OK, it’s nearly time for the next data splurge – updated GDP data from the US and Canada for the last quarter....
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Sterling has hit a 16-month low agains the US dollar, as the City gives its verdict on today’s data.Sterling has hit a 16-month low agains the US dollar, as the City gives its verdict on today’s data.
The pound is down almost 0.5%, or 0.7 of a cent, at $1.552, the lowest since September 2013.The pound is down almost 0.5%, or 0.7 of a cent, at $1.552, the lowest since September 2013.
That’s partly because the dollar is rallying against most currencies; the euro has hit a 28-month low against the greenback.That’s partly because the dollar is rallying against most currencies; the euro has hit a 28-month low against the greenback.
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Back in the City of London, shoppers are hitting the streets as the clock ticks towards Christmas Day.Back in the City of London, shoppers are hitting the streets as the clock ticks towards Christmas Day.
The Times’ Juliet Samuel spies a lengthy queue at popular scent firm Jo Malone.The Times’ Juliet Samuel spies a lengthy queue at popular scent firm Jo Malone.
Panicked Christmas shoppers outside Jo Malone in the city today pic.twitter.com/bFYtzmmkFzPanicked Christmas shoppers outside Jo Malone in the city today pic.twitter.com/bFYtzmmkFz
"Every year it's the same," observes a passing suit."Every year it's the same," observes a passing suit.
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A reader has politely suggested I’m being too pessimistic about the UK’s growth figures.A reader has politely suggested I’m being too pessimistic about the UK’s growth figures.
And to be fair, a 2.6% increase in GDP over the last 12 months is much better than the European average.And to be fair, a 2.6% increase in GDP over the last 12 months is much better than the European average.
France, for example, has only grown by 0.4% over the last 12 months, while Germany expanded by 1.2%. And both economies are expected to under-perform the UK in 2015, when the economy is predicted to grow by another 2.4%France, for example, has only grown by 0.4% over the last 12 months, while Germany expanded by 1.2%. And both economies are expected to under-perform the UK in 2015, when the economy is predicted to grow by another 2.4%
Martin Beck, senior economic advisor to the EY ITEM Club, reckons the fall in the oil price could mean faster growth next year, so it’s not all doom and gloom.Martin Beck, senior economic advisor to the EY ITEM Club, reckons the fall in the oil price could mean faster growth next year, so it’s not all doom and gloom.
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Heads up: We get updated US growth data in around 45 minutes.Heads up: We get updated US growth data in around 45 minutes.
Economists reckon that America’s GDP could be revised higher, to show an annual growth rate of perhaps 4.3% in the last quarter, up from the previous forecast of 3.9%.Economists reckon that America’s GDP could be revised higher, to show an annual growth rate of perhaps 4.3% in the last quarter, up from the previous forecast of 3.9%.
RT @WSJecon: What to watch in the U.S. GDP report that comes out at 8:30 a.m. EST: http://t.co/7kvVcGHuRX pic.twitter.com/CM7giOqAkwRT @WSJecon: What to watch in the U.S. GDP report that comes out at 8:30 a.m. EST: http://t.co/7kvVcGHuRX pic.twitter.com/CM7giOqAkw
12.14pm GMT12.14pm GMT
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Summary: Worrying news on the UK economySummary: Worrying news on the UK economy
Britain has been dealt a double-dose of unfestive economic news this morning, showing that the recovery may be on more fragile ground than feared.Britain has been dealt a double-dose of unfestive economic news this morning, showing that the recovery may be on more fragile ground than feared.
The Office for National Statistics has lowered its estimate for growth over the last 12 months to 2.6%, sharply down from 3%.The Office for National Statistics has lowered its estimate for growth over the last 12 months to 2.6%, sharply down from 3%.
The ONS confirmed that the economy grew by 0.7% in July-September, down from 0.8% in Q2, and trimmed growth forecasts for the previous five quarters.The ONS confirmed that the economy grew by 0.7% in July-September, down from 0.8% in Q2, and trimmed growth forecasts for the previous five quarters.
The data also confirmed that business investment contracted in the last quarter, leaving Britain worryingly reliant on consumer spending.The data also confirmed that business investment contracted in the last quarter, leaving Britain worryingly reliant on consumer spending.
Reuters sums it up:Reuters sums it up:
Household spending rose 0.9 percent from the April-June period, picking up speed from the second quarter, and was the main driver of growth.Household spending rose 0.9 percent from the April-June period, picking up speed from the second quarter, and was the main driver of growth.
The data showed consumers dug into their savings. Household disposable income, after tax and inflation, fell 0.1 percent on the quarter and was up only 1.0 percent on the year, reflecting weak pay growth that has raised questions about the durability of the economic recovery.The data showed consumers dug into their savings. Household disposable income, after tax and inflation, fell 0.1 percent on the quarter and was up only 1.0 percent on the year, reflecting weak pay growth that has raised questions about the durability of the economic recovery.
Weak earnings have also put the issue of living standards at the centre of campaigning for Britain’s national elections in May.Weak earnings have also put the issue of living standards at the centre of campaigning for Britain’s national elections in May.
Business investment, which is considered crucial to ensure the economy continues to grow, fell 1.4 percent from the second quarter and was up 5.2 percent compared with a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said.Business investment, which is considered crucial to ensure the economy continues to grow, fell 1.4 percent from the second quarter and was up 5.2 percent compared with a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said.
It probably means that the UK is no longer the fastest growing advanced economy; that crown has been passed to Australia.It probably means that the UK is no longer the fastest growing advanced economy; that crown has been passed to Australia.
On an annual basis the UK is not "fastest growing of any major advanced economy in the world". Oz and US stronger: pic.twitter.com/CAGSYRyPsjOn an annual basis the UK is not "fastest growing of any major advanced economy in the world". Oz and US stronger: pic.twitter.com/CAGSYRyPsj
The opposition Labour party have seized on the data; shadow Treasury minister Shabana Mahmood says the chancellor has “totally failed to rebalance the economy as he promised”.The opposition Labour party have seized on the data; shadow Treasury minister Shabana Mahmood says the chancellor has “totally failed to rebalance the economy as he promised”.
Economists agree that the data shows the UK is slowing down, and that economy is more unbalanced.Economists agree that the data shows the UK is slowing down, and that economy is more unbalanced.
There is also concern that Britain’s current account deficit – the difference between the money that flowed into the UK, and flowed out – hit a record, at 6% of GDP.There is also concern that Britain’s current account deficit – the difference between the money that flowed into the UK, and flowed out – hit a record, at 6% of GDP.
The UK's current account deficit has reached 6% of GDP - the highest ever recorded pic.twitter.com/MzEAe9k2lv via @BenChuThe UK's current account deficit has reached 6% of GDP - the highest ever recorded pic.twitter.com/MzEAe9k2lv via @BenChu
The British Chambers of Commerce say that such a deficit is simply unsustainable.The British Chambers of Commerce say that such a deficit is simply unsustainable.
The CEBR fears that the pound could be hit:The CEBR fears that the pound could be hit:
With the downward revisions to growth and a slightly less rosy outlook, financial markets may soon turn their attention to more concerning aspects of the UK economy such as the current account deficit.With the downward revisions to growth and a slightly less rosy outlook, financial markets may soon turn their attention to more concerning aspects of the UK economy such as the current account deficit.
If the current account position continues to decline in the coming quarters, then a sterling sell-off may become a viable concern in the not too distant future.If the current account position continues to decline in the coming quarters, then a sterling sell-off may become a viable concern in the not too distant future.
And Newsnight’s Duncan Weldon has explained how it could undermine confidence in the UK economy.And Newsnight’s Duncan Weldon has explained how it could undermine confidence in the UK economy.
It’s all rather worrying.It’s all rather worrying.
GDP revisions leave UK recovery looking slower & more unbalanced. Add in a large current deficit and the word 'fragile' comes to mind.GDP revisions leave UK recovery looking slower & more unbalanced. Add in a large current deficit and the word 'fragile' comes to mind.
And in other news... Greek debt is weakening after MPs rejected the government’s nominee as president for the second time.And in other news... Greek debt is weakening after MPs rejected the government’s nominee as president for the second time.
Stavros Dimas attracted just 168 votes, 12 shy of the 180 target in next week’s third, final, vote.Stavros Dimas attracted just 168 votes, 12 shy of the 180 target in next week’s third, final, vote.
RT @WSJeurope Parliament fails to back PM’s presidential candidate in second vote http://t.co/SN0bPmuR9a pic.twitter.com/gIRvF04QkM #PtD #GreeceRT @WSJeurope Parliament fails to back PM’s presidential candidate in second vote http://t.co/SN0bPmuR9a pic.twitter.com/gIRvF04QkM #PtD #Greece
An early election in 2015 looks increasingly likely, raising the prospect that the left-wing Syriza party will take power - and push for a new deal on Greek debt.An early election in 2015 looks increasingly likely, raising the prospect that the left-wing Syriza party will take power - and push for a new deal on Greek debt.
*SAMARAS SAYS DANGEROUS FOR COUNTRY TO GO TO EARLY ELECTIONS*SAMARAS SAYS DANGEROUS FOR COUNTRY TO GO TO EARLY ELECTIONS
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Sam Alderson, economist at the Centre for Economics and Business Research, fears that the trajectory of the current account deficit could significantly hold back economic growth prospects, especially as export prospects look weak:Sam Alderson, economist at the Centre for Economics and Business Research, fears that the trajectory of the current account deficit could significantly hold back economic growth prospects, especially as export prospects look weak:
British car manufacturer Jaguar Land Rover suspended sales to Russia in recent days as the value of the Russian rouble collapsed.British car manufacturer Jaguar Land Rover suspended sales to Russia in recent days as the value of the Russian rouble collapsed.
Russia is not the only economy struggling and economic weakness in other emerging markets and advanced economies such as the Eurozone and Japan looks likely to continue to hold back income from overseas investments.Russia is not the only economy struggling and economic weakness in other emerging markets and advanced economies such as the Eurozone and Japan looks likely to continue to hold back income from overseas investments.
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Economist Howard Archer of IHS Global Insight says the UK economy looks “somewhat unbalanced and disappointing”.
Growth was heavily dependent on consumer spending (up 0.9%% quarter-on-quarter) while there was also an appreciable contribution from higher inventories.
There was a worrying marked relapse in business investment (down 1.4% quarter-on-quarter), although overall investment edged up 0.1% quarter-on-quarter in the third quarter as it was helped by a rebound in government investment after a sharp fall in the second quarter.
Meanwhile, net trade was modestly negative as exports rose 0.6% quarter-on-quarter and imports grew 0.9% quarter-on-quarter.
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Labour: Osborne has failed to rebalance Britain's economy
Shabana Mahmood MP, Labour’s Shadow Treasury Minister, says today’s data shows George Osborne has failed to rebalance the economy:
“These are concerning figures. Growth has been revised down for five of the last six quarters, exports continue to disappoint and business investment fell in the last quarter.
“The Chancellor has totally failed to rebalance the economy as he promised. And working people are still not feeling the recovery with wages sluggish and average earnings in real terms down £1600 a year since 2010.
“Labour’s economic plan will ensure we earn our way to rising living standards for all, not just a few. Alongside sensible spending cuts and ensuring those with the broadest shoulders make a greater contribution, that’s the way to get the deficit down in a tough but balanced way.”
On the rebalancing point.... today’s GDP report shows that UK industry only grew by 0.2% in the last quarter, while services expanded by 0.8% and construction by 1.6%.
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11.34am GMT
11:34
UK no longer outpacing America or Australia
Today’s GDP revisions mean that the UK has not been growing significantly faster than America this year.
This chart from the ONS shows that UK GDP (red bars) is barely ahead of the US (blue line) so far this year:
Sky’s Ed Conway reckons George Osborne can no longer brag that “the UK is the fastest growing of any major advanced economy in the world.”
He writes:
Far from growing at an annual rate of 3% in the year to the third quarter, the UK economy actually grew by 2.6%. Now, while this remains, of course, a decent growth rate, particularly considering the depth of Britain’s financial crisis and the weakness of the EU, it does undermine those boasts.
Because of that reduced annual growth rate, the UK is growing slower than Australia, at the same rate as Canada, and only a touch faster than the US.
After today’s @ONS revisions @George_Osborne can no longer claim UK is fastest growing economy in developed world https://t.co/3hsqCSnj4E
11.12am GMT
11:12
The downward revisions to UK GDP mean Britain may fail to grow by 3% this year:
Extensive revisions (as last December) mean 2014 GDP growth now likely to come in a bit below 3%, for now at least: http://t.co/3gqdLHpSpm
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11.06am GMT
11:06
A current account deficit isn’t, on its own, a bad thing. In a global economy, some country’s will inevitably be taking in more than they give out.
But Britain’s deficit, as a share of GDP, even bigger than in the latter days of the Thatcher government. And that ended with a recession, pressure on the pound, and sterling being ejected from the European exchange rate mechanism:
UK's quarterly current account deficit now bigger as a % of GDP than it was in the Lawson boom of the late 1980s: pic.twitter.com/WIZXV77e5S
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11.01am GMT
11:01
BCC: current account deficit is unsustainable
The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) says Britain’s current account deficit has how hit “unsustainable levels”, at 6% of GDP or £27bn.
It is also concerned that today’s growth figures show the UK recovery is slowing.
BCC chief economist David Kern says:
“While the quarterly results remain strong, the stark revision in annual growth confirms that the pace of recovery is slowing. The most concerning aspect of these figures is that the current deficit has risen to an unsustainably high level – due to the fall in net investment.
Although the economy continues to grow, the recovery is not yet secure and further efforts are needed to boost business investment and to help businesses export to foreign markets.”
10.53am GMT
10:53
Why Britain's current account deficit is a big worry
How worried should we be that Britain’s current account deficit has soared to £27bn, or 6% of GDP?
Very concerned, argues Newsnight economics correspondent Duncan Weldon.
The current account shows how much money the UK receives from the rest of the world and how much we pay out. It includes trade (goods and services in and out) and ‘net investment income’ - the difference between what Britain earns on overseas investments, and what foreign investors take out of the UK.
And the failure to narrow the gap, while the economy has been growing, could eventually alarm investors and hit faith in the UK.
Duncan did a detailed blogpost on this two weeks ago. Here’s a flavour:
The nightmare scenario — one you’ll occasionally hear from city types and which whilst almost no one’s ‘base case’ is worth not totally ignoring — runs something like this.
Overseas investors see a current deficit that isn’t coming down, they see a government deficit that is still a high and they maybe start to pay attention to polls predicting a very messy outcome in next year’s general election.
Their reaction is to start sell sterling and push down the value of the pound. A moderate downwards move in sterling could prove helpful — it might make UK exports more competitive and help reduce the trade deficit and it could help push up inflation, which is currently below the Bank of England’s target. Sterling was devalued hugely between 2008 and 2009 in a move that was quietly welcomed by UK policymakers.
But the extreme scenario goes further, it sees disorderly sell off in sterling and sterling assets as international investors begin to dump anything connected to the UK. Assets prices fall and sterling depreciates quickly pushing up inflation to well ahead of the Bank of England’s target.
If the Bank then raises interest rates, it causes havoc among indebted families.
And today’s GDP data showed that households continue to dig into their savings to fund consumer spending, giving them less protection against a rate hike.....
UK current account deficit widens to 6% of GDP. Huge. Something I wrote about why that might be a reason to worry - https://t.co/UKh83g2cXZ
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10.39am GMT
10:39
It’s official - just 168 Greek MPs backed the government in today’s presidential vote, eight more than last time, but well shy of the 200 target.
Next week’s vote is now crucial; the target drops to 180, so another 12 arms need to be twisted....
#Greece | 2nd presidential vote fails to elect a new President. Dimas gets 168 votes. 3rd & final vote December 29. #PtD
10.35am GMT
10:35
Greek MPs reject presidential candidate again
Just in: the Greek government has failed to win enough support for its presidential candidate, Stavros Dimas, bringing early elections a step closer.
We don’t have the final vote yet, but two MPs from the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party have backed Dimas this time, suggesting the government may have more support than last week.
Both former Golden Dawn MPs (Boukouras & Alexopoulos) vote for Dimas as president after being absent in first round #Greece
So, the govt's presidential candidate has picked up 2 votes from former #GoldenDawn MPs, one of whom is facing criminal charges. #PtD
10.29am GMT
10:29
Those downward revisions mean that Britain’s economy is only 2.9% larger than before the financial crisis, not 3.4% as previously thought.
10.24am GMT
10:24
The Greek government is struggling to win a decisive majority in the presidential vote – the result is due very soon....
Midway through voting: 71-69 for Dimas #Greece #PtD pic.twitter.com/HdMAvoLd7V
10.19am GMT
10:19
Here's those ONS GDP growth revisions on an annual basis. Downward revisions for the past five quarters: pic.twitter.com/CHSGh4kmo4
10.18am GMT
10:18
Back to the disappointing UK economic data.
Britain’s annual growth rate was revised down to 2.6% from 3% because investment by businesses and the government was weaker than expected over the last year
As his chart shows, the ONS has cut its growth estimates for five of the last six quarters:
The decline in business investment is particularly worrying; declining by 1.4% compared with the second quarter of 2014.
Household spending, though, continued to drive the recovery by rising by 0.9% in Q3.
10.06am GMT
10:06
Heads-up. MPs in Greece are voting on whether to accept the government’s candidate as president. As explained earlier, we expect Stavros Dimas to be rejected, but can he win more support than last week?....
There's a new drama on Greek tv called "The Vote" second episode is about to start here http://t.co/sD6aqP9DH5 Saw it last week, was v good.
10.02am GMT
10:02
Sky’s Ed Conway is alarmed by the deterioration in the UK’s current account balance with the rest of the world:
The current account is yr country’s financial balance with rest of world. UK’s really doesn’t look pretty right now pic.twitter.com/RLdR6J5b9V
10.00am GMT
10:00
UK current account deficit balloons to £27bn
There’s a second dose of bad news for Britain’s economy; the current account deficit has soared to £27bn in the third quarter of 2014.
That’s £4bn more than economists had expected, and is an eye-watering 6% of GDP.
It shows that the UK continues to import much more goods and services than it sells to the rest of the world.
The ONS blamed a drop in receipts from foreign direct investment, and a rise in payments to foreign direct investors.
Large fall in invest. income as part of primary income of UK current account in Q3 looks to be standout component that led to large deficit
Britain's current account deficit balloons to a record £27 bln in Q3. That's 6% of GDP: pic.twitter.com/wpn2dW7pQa
The trade deficit component of the current account deficit came in at £9bn, slightly better than £9.2 billion in April-June.
That due a larger surplus on trade in services; however, the deficit in goods did widen.
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9.48am GMT
09:48
UK GDP: the key charts
This downward revision to UK growth, from 3% to 2.6%, over the last year is particularly disappointing as Britain has already been experiencing the slowest recovery in decades.
9.37am GMT
09:37
UK annual growth rate revised down
The UK economy grew by 0.7% in the third quarter of 2014, in line with initial expectations, and down from 0.9% in Q2.
BUT the Office for National Statistics has revised down the annual growth rate to 2.6%, from 3% previously.
That’s quite a downward revision, showing Britain’s recovery has not been as strong as expected.
ONS leaves its estimate of Q3 2014 quarterly GDP growth unchanged at 0.7%. But previous FIVE quarters revised down pic.twitter.com/ysFxetbrNf
Ouch! UK ONS: Between Q3 2013 and Q3 2014, #GDP in volume terms increased by 2.6%, revised downwards by 0.4% #NoXmasPresent
More details and reaction to follow
9.29am GMT
09:29
Here come the updated UK growth and current account figures...
Gotta love a little UK GDP
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9.26am GMT
09:26
Here’s a handy breakdown of the Greek parliament, showing how the government (left hand side) is struggling to attract support for today’s presidential vote.
Smart summary by @MacroPolis_gr of 2nd round vote today in #Greece. No majority in sight for Gov't candidate. pic.twitter.com/9oNaOEzeuB
9.18am GMT
09:18
Back to the UK festive rush, and John Lewis says it expects a mad rush in the final shopping days before Christmas as it reported a drop in last week’s sales.
My colleague Julia Kollewe explains:
The department store chain made sales of £160.6m in the week to last Saturday, up 6.5% on the previous week but down 2.4% from a year ago.
John Lewis, seen as a barometer of the high street, said customers are leaving their Christmas shopping right up until the last minute. Online sales rose 5.5% year-on-year.
It also suggests that the Black Friday sales (on November 28) pulled forward some spending from December.
So it could be manic on the high streets today, as the Christmas spirit grips the nation:
🎄🎁🎅😄
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9.06am GMT
09:06
Italian consumers remain downbeat, as the country endures another recession.
Retail sales in Italy stagnated for the second month running in October, with no growth across the sector, data just released showed.
Italy retail sales stagnate in October for second month running (0.0%mm, -0.8%yy)
8.59am GMT
08:59
#Greece | 2nd presidential vote in parliament at 1000 GMT. Threshold still 200 votes. Dimas expected to get 164~166.
8.57am GMT
08:57
Can Greek PM win more support?
Over in Greece, prime minister Antonis Samaras is nervously waiting to discover if his presidential nominee wins more support than last week.
MPs vote in an hour’s time. And political analysts predict that the government will again fall short in its bid to get Stavros Dimas appointed as Greece’s next president.
Last week, just 160 MPs backed him; prompting Samaras to promise elections at the end of 2015 in return for support.
That may lure a few waverers, but Samaras looks a long way short of the 180 he needs to win the third, decisive vote next week.
Kathimerini newspaper reports:
The overture by Samaras – who also pledged to broaden the government to include “pro-European” personalities – appeared to have influenced some skeptical independent lawmakers. A few indicated on Monday that they would vote for the government’s candidate, former European Commissioner Stavros Dimas. The government is certain to fall short of Tuesday’s minimum of 200 votes but its performance will give an indication of whether it will be able to attain the 180 necessary in next Monday’s final ballot to avert snap general elections.
@EfiEfthimiou 165 - 167 #GreekVoteGuesses
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8.41am GMT
08:41
It wouldn’t be Christmas without profit warnings. And chocolate maker Thorntons has become the first UK retailer to admit that it won’t hit expectations.
Around a quarter has been wiped off Thornton’s value, after it warned that profits will be lower than last year.
It blamed “ a significant reduction” in orders from grocers, suggesting Thorntons is a casualty of the price war raging in the supermarket sector. But that’s not all; it also encountered “significant short-term difficulties” with its new centralised warehouse.
It’s a bitter blow to investors; Thorntons shares fell from 118p to 77p, before climbing back to 91p.
8.35am GMT
08:35
UK GDP up in 1 hour and Greek Presidential voting starts at 1000 GMT
8.29am GMT
08:29
Russia’s currency crisis has eased a little this morning, with the rouble inching up 1% to 55 roubles to the $1.
That follows a report that PM Dmitry Medvedev has signed an order compelling state exporters to sell some of their foreign currency reserves..
Moscow is taking yesterday’s bailout of Trust bank in its stride; the RTS share index is up 1.8%, with further rescue packages expected.
#IMF raises fears of global #crisis as Russian #bank forced into #bailout http://t.co/b704CZS8fq
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8.20am GMT
08:20
Europe’s stock markets have opened higher, with the FTSurofirst 300 gaining 0.25% in early trading.
IG’s Stam Shamu predicts “a cautious tone” today, as investors watch Greece’s second attempt to elect a president.
8.13am GMT
08:13
French growth rate confirmed at 0.3%
Just in... confirmation that France’s economy grew by 0.3% in the third quarter of the year. But it’s arguably not the kind of growth that France really needs.
INSEE, the French stats body, confirmed that the growth was driven by household spending (+0.3%) and government spending (+0.6%).
But trade detracted from the French growth rate - as imports jumped by 1.3% but exports only grew by 0.5%. And investment contracted by 0.6%, following a 0.8% decline in Q2, indicating companies are nervous about buying new equipment.
It all means France avoided recession, having contracted by 0.1% in Q2.
French consumers are ending the year on a positive enough note; INSEE also reported that consumer spending rose by 0.4% in November.
And inflationary pressures remain weak, with the prices charged by factories for their products dropping slightly.
French data out this morning: Q3 #GDP confirmed at +0.3%; consumer spending up 0.4% in November (-0.8% in October); producer prices: -0.1%
7.46am GMT
07:46
The Agenda: UK and US growth figures, and Greek vote
Good morning, and welcome to our rolling coverage of the financial markets, the world economy, business and the eurozone.
It’s the last full trading day before Christmas, and Santa has come early with a bumper load of updated growth figures for the UK, US, Canada and France (I must have been terribly good all year #whoknew? ).
There’s a good chance that the US growth rate in the third quarter will be revised up from around 1% to 1.1%, and we can’t rule out the UK’s quarterly 0.7% growth rate being raised to 0.8%, following strong construction reports.
The latest UK Current Account is also being released, showing how Britain traded with the rest of the world.
The French numbers are out now, followed by the UK at 9.30am GMT, and the US and Canada at 1.30pm.
As well as the topline growth rate, we’ll get fresh details into exactly how each economy performed.
Michael Hewson of CMC Markets explains:
The final Q3 GDP numbers from the UK is expected to be confirmed at growth of 0.7% and 3% annualised. The business investment numbers are a concern after the recent adjustment to -0.7%, suggesting that businesses cut back due to uncertainty over the Scottish referendum, with the hope that we will probably have seen a rebound in Q4.
We also have US Q3 GDP which is expected to be revised up to an annualised 4.3%, while durable goods ex-transports for November are expected to rebound from the poor October number of -1.1% to a gain of 1%.
The other big news of the day is the Greek parliament will take its second stab at electing a president, at noon local time or 10am GMT.
Candidate Stavros Dimas is expected to be rejected again, bringing Greece another step closer to snap elections. The crucial third and final vote is on the 29th.
We’ll also have half an eye on the UK retail sector as the Christmas shopping season reaches a crescendo......
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