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Ukraine crisis: Russia upbeat on Hollande and Merkel talks Ukraine crisis: Leaders upbeat after Moscow talks
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The leaders of Russia, France and Germany have held "constructive" talks on efforts to end the conflict in east Ukraine, a Kremlin spokesman says. The leaders of Russia, France and Germany have held "constructive and substantive" talks on ending the conflict in Ukraine, diplomats say.
Dmitry Peskov said Russian President Vladimir Putin, France's Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met for more than five hours. Russian President Vladimir Putin, France's Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel met for more than four hours in Moscow.
Mr Hollande and Mrs Merkel had brought to Moscow a peace proposal whose details have not been released. Mr Hollande and Mrs Merkel had brought with them a peace proposal details on which have not been released.
Russia is accused of arming pro-Russian separatists - a claim it denies.Russia is accused of arming pro-Russian separatists - a claim it denies.
The Kremlin also rejects claims by Ukraine and the West that its regular troops are fighting alongside the rebels in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions.The Kremlin also rejects claims by Ukraine and the West that its regular troops are fighting alongside the rebels in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Clashes have left nearly 5,400 people dead since April, the UN says.Clashes have left nearly 5,400 people dead since April, the UN says.
A September ceasefire, signed in Minsk in Belarus, has failed to stop the violence. Since then the rebels have seized more ground, raising alarm in Kiev and among Ukraine's backers.A September ceasefire, signed in Minsk in Belarus, has failed to stop the violence. Since then the rebels have seized more ground, raising alarm in Kiev and among Ukraine's backers.
Analysis: David Stern, BBC News, Kiev Analysis: Bridget Kendall, BBC News, Moscow
This may not be the last attempt to try to find a peaceful solution to the hostilities in eastern Ukraine, but there is a sense that the door is closing fast. There was no joint press conference or statement from the Russian, German and French leaders after such a high-profile Kremlin meeting. Chancellor Merkel and President Hollande left for the airport straight away. But if there was no breakthrough, there was also no breakdown.
On Thursday German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said the West must see if there was still a chance to reach a settlement, before there was "complete loss of control" over the conflict. France's President Francois Hollande has said diplomacy could not "go on indefinitely." Comments from officials from all three countries had clearly been co-ordinated. In Moscow, Paris and Berlin they all described the talks as substantive and constructive. They all noted that the three leaders, plus the president of Ukraine, would confer again by phone on Sunday.
That Angela Merkel is travelling to Moscow can be seen as a positive sign - the German chancellor said she wouldn't meet Vladimir Putin without the concrete prospect of progress. And they all said work would continue on a possible blueprint for a deal, based on the French and German initiative, with added proposals from President Poroshenko and President Putin.
But the roadblocks to a final peace - or even a lasting ceasefire - are formidable and many. Not least is the low level of trust among Ukrainian and Western officials for any promises coming from the Kremlin. The fact that few details have been made public is probably positive. It suggests this is an attempt to negotiate seriously, without rhetoric and out of the public eye. But it also means we do not really know what is on the table, how far apart the various parties are and how fragile this latest mission to bring peace to Ukraine might be.
Mr Putin may be sincere in his peace proposals; or, many in Kiev and other capitals feel, he may just be buying time.
Why is east Ukraine hit by conflict?Why is east Ukraine hit by conflict?
Ukraine 'can't stop Russian armour'Ukraine 'can't stop Russian armour'
The peace proposal Mr Hollande and Mrs Merkel took to Moscow on Friday was crafted with the Ukrainian government on Thursday.The peace proposal Mr Hollande and Mrs Merkel took to Moscow on Friday was crafted with the Ukrainian government on Thursday.
After the two leaders' discussions with President Putin, French officials told AFP news agency they had been "constructive and substantial". Russia's Dmitry Peskov said after Friday's talks that work was continuing on a joint document. Further talks will be held by phone on Sunday, he added.
Russia's Dmitry Peskov said work was continuing on a joint document. Further talks will be held by phone on Sunday, he added.
Earlier, Mr Hollande said the aim was not just a ceasefire but a "comprehensive agreement" - although Mrs Merkel said it was "totally open" whether that could be achieved.Earlier, Mr Hollande said the aim was not just a ceasefire but a "comprehensive agreement" - although Mrs Merkel said it was "totally open" whether that could be achieved.
Major questions any plan would have to address include the route of any new ceasefire line - given the rebel advances of recent weeks - how to enforce it, and the future status of the conflict zone, says the BBC's Sarah Rainsford in Moscow.Major questions any plan would have to address include the route of any new ceasefire line - given the rebel advances of recent weeks - how to enforce it, and the future status of the conflict zone, says the BBC's Sarah Rainsford in Moscow.
Moscow is still denying any direct role in the conflict, while Kiev insists above all that Ukraine must remain united, our correspondent says.Moscow is still denying any direct role in the conflict, while Kiev insists above all that Ukraine must remain united, our correspondent says.
Meanwhile US Vice-President Joe Biden accused Russia of "continuing to escalate the conflict" and "ignoring every agreement".Meanwhile US Vice-President Joe Biden accused Russia of "continuing to escalate the conflict" and "ignoring every agreement".
He was speaking in Brussels, where he is meeting top EU officials.He was speaking in Brussels, where he is meeting top EU officials.
He accused Mr Putin of continuing "to call for new peace plans as his tanks roll through the Ukrainian countryside".He accused Mr Putin of continuing "to call for new peace plans as his tanks roll through the Ukrainian countryside".
He said Russia could "not be allowed to redraw the map of Europe".He said Russia could "not be allowed to redraw the map of Europe".
Washington is considering Ukrainian pleas for better weaponry to fend off the rebels, raising European fears of an escalation in the conflict and spurring the latest peace bid.Washington is considering Ukrainian pleas for better weaponry to fend off the rebels, raising European fears of an escalation in the conflict and spurring the latest peace bid.
ConvoysConvoys
Also on Friday, a truce allowed civilians to leave Debaltseve in Donetsk region - a town at the heart of an upsurge in fighting in recent weeks.Also on Friday, a truce allowed civilians to leave Debaltseve in Donetsk region - a town at the heart of an upsurge in fighting in recent weeks.
On Friday a temporary truce was declared in the town, where Ukrainian forces are fighting to hold it against surrounding rebels.On Friday a temporary truce was declared in the town, where Ukrainian forces are fighting to hold it against surrounding rebels.
Convoys of buses travelled there to evacuate civilians who had been forced to shelter underground from the bombing.Convoys of buses travelled there to evacuate civilians who had been forced to shelter underground from the bombing.
They were escorted by monitors from the OSCE security watchdog, reported Reuters news agency.They were escorted by monitors from the OSCE security watchdog, reported Reuters news agency.
Some 1.2 million Ukrainians have fled their homes since last April, when the rebels seized a big swathe of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions following Russia's annexation of Crimea.Some 1.2 million Ukrainians have fled their homes since last April, when the rebels seized a big swathe of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions following Russia's annexation of Crimea.
Are you in eastern Ukraine? Have you been affected by events? Email your experiences to haveyoursay@bbc.co.ukAre you in eastern Ukraine? Have you been affected by events? Email your experiences to haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk
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