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HSBC scandal: Treasury Committee to investigate HSBC scandal: Treasury Committee to investigate
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The UK's Treasury Committee is to examine allegations that HSBC's Swiss private bank helped clients evade tax.The UK's Treasury Committee is to examine allegations that HSBC's Swiss private bank helped clients evade tax.
It follows statements from whistleblower Herve Falciani that the UK government should have known about the scandal in 2010. Whistleblower Herve Falciani has said the UK government should have known about the scandal in 2010.
Andrew Tyrie MP, Treasury Committee Chairman, said: "The Committee is concerned about allegations involving HSBC and its Swiss private bank. Committee chairman Andrew Tyrie said the committee was concerned about the allegations and had decided to take oral evidence from both HSBC and HMRC.
"It has decided to take oral evidence from both HSBC and HMRC." Meanwhile, the BBC understands the Treasury is preparing legislation to tighten the tax evasion laws.
"Banks have repeatedly told the Committee that, since the crisis, they have put in place reforms to ensure that they operate on the basis of sharply improved standards. BBC business editor Kamal Ahmed has been told that it is preparing legislation to tighten the rules on undeclared income held in offshore accounts.
"The Committee will need reassurance that they have done so in private banking. The chancellor made it clear last April that he would like to toughen the rules over tax evasion including offshore banking.
Since then there has been international agreement on the automatic exchange of information regarding tax matters, but no unilateral steps from the UK government.
Expanded inquiry
Mr Tyrie said the committee would be probing whether banks had made adequate progress in changing their own practices.
"Banks have repeatedly told the committee that, since the crisis, they have put in place reforms to ensure that they operate on the basis of sharply improved standards," he said
"The committee will need reassurance that they have done so in private banking."
Mr Falciani, a former IT worker for HSBC, said UK tax authorities would have known about the stolen list of clients of HSBC's Swiss private bank when it was given to French officials.Mr Falciani, a former IT worker for HSBC, said UK tax authorities would have known about the stolen list of clients of HSBC's Swiss private bank when it was given to French officials.
Meanwhile , the BBC has learned the UK tax authority is to expand its inquiry. The BBC has also learned the UK tax authority is to expand its inquiry. HMRC will meet the police and the Serious Fraud Office later in the week.
HMRC will meet the police and the Serious Fraud Office later in the week.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Falciani said French authorities had got in touch with HM Revenue & Customs and passed on information in 2010.Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Falciani said French authorities had got in touch with HM Revenue & Customs and passed on information in 2010.
'Huge issues''Huge issues'
He said the UK government should have known the bank itself was doing wrong in 2010.He said the UK government should have known the bank itself was doing wrong in 2010.
"By that time I (had) already declared and explained the problems that were happening," he said."By that time I (had) already declared and explained the problems that were happening," he said.
"It was made public at that time and of course I already at that time explained the major, huge issues we were foreseeing inside HSBC," he added."It was made public at that time and of course I already at that time explained the major, huge issues we were foreseeing inside HSBC," he added.
Asked if the information Mr Falciani had provided in 2010 was also about the behaviour of the bank, as well as individuals, he said: "It was exactly about the behaviour and containing all the required information for an internal audit."Asked if the information Mr Falciani had provided in 2010 was also about the behaviour of the bank, as well as individuals, he said: "It was exactly about the behaviour and containing all the required information for an internal audit."
He said there was much more to be shared and that co-operation between European tax authorities would reveal far more evidence.He said there was much more to be shared and that co-operation between European tax authorities would reveal far more evidence.
His latest revelations follow angry exchanges on Wednesday, when MPs accused tax officials of failing to deal with issues adequately.His latest revelations follow angry exchanges on Wednesday, when MPs accused tax officials of failing to deal with issues adequately.
Top officials from HM Revenue & Customs were shouted down by MPs, angry at what they said was a lack of urgency in tackling the HSBC tax-dodging scandal.Top officials from HM Revenue & Customs were shouted down by MPs, angry at what they said was a lack of urgency in tackling the HSBC tax-dodging scandal.
Margaret Hodge, chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee, accused Lin Homer, HMRC chief executive, of a "pathetic response".Margaret Hodge, chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee, accused Lin Homer, HMRC chief executive, of a "pathetic response".
Analysis: Kamal Ahmed, business editorAnalysis: Kamal Ahmed, business editor
Herve Falciani's interview on the Today programme has raised two important issues.Herve Falciani's interview on the Today programme has raised two important issues.
Firstly, that he offered information in 2010 to UK authorities that HSBC was involved in aiding and abetting tax evasion for its clients.Firstly, that he offered information in 2010 to UK authorities that HSBC was involved in aiding and abetting tax evasion for its clients.
The government says that all it knew about were the publicly reported facts that clients of HSBC's Swiss bank were being investigated over their tax affairs.The government says that all it knew about were the publicly reported facts that clients of HSBC's Swiss bank were being investigated over their tax affairs.
And that meant there was no reason to prevent Lord Green, the former chairman of HSBC, becoming the new trade minister.And that meant there was no reason to prevent Lord Green, the former chairman of HSBC, becoming the new trade minister.
Secondly, that HSBC's Swiss bank controls in the 2000s were in a mess and that failing computer systems made it impossible for the bank to have "sufficient oversight".Secondly, that HSBC's Swiss bank controls in the 2000s were in a mess and that failing computer systems made it impossible for the bank to have "sufficient oversight".
This is vital, because allegations of lack of control and oversight are toxic for any bank and its board.This is vital, because allegations of lack of control and oversight are toxic for any bank and its board.
Don't forget, HSBC was fined nearly £1.2bn for governance failures over money laundering allegations in its Mexico operation.Don't forget, HSBC was fined nearly £1.2bn for governance failures over money laundering allegations in its Mexico operation.
HSBC says that controls have been improved in its Swiss operation. The question is: if Mr Falciani is correct, why were they allowed to get into such a mess in the first place?HSBC says that controls have been improved in its Swiss operation. The question is: if Mr Falciani is correct, why were they allowed to get into such a mess in the first place?
Ms Homer denied she had failed to take firm action against UK citizens hiding money in HSBC accounts in Geneva.Ms Homer denied she had failed to take firm action against UK citizens hiding money in HSBC accounts in Geneva.
She said it was "absolutely not the case" she was failing the UK taxpayer.She said it was "absolutely not the case" she was failing the UK taxpayer.
Ms Homer explained why there had been only one prosecution of someone whose hidden accounts in Switzerland had been revealed.Ms Homer explained why there had been only one prosecution of someone whose hidden accounts in Switzerland had been revealed.
She said that most of the information leaked via the French authorities in 2010, which involved about 3,600 UK individuals, was incomplete or "dirty" data.She said that most of the information leaked via the French authorities in 2010, which involved about 3,600 UK individuals, was incomplete or "dirty" data.
Of these, 3,200 individuals had been traced and, of the 1,100 most serious cases - which HMRC had chosen to pursue - only 130 were now outstanding.Of these, 3,200 individuals had been traced and, of the 1,100 most serious cases - which HMRC had chosen to pursue - only 130 were now outstanding.
From the rest of those cases, £135m had been recovered, Ms Homer said.From the rest of those cases, £135m had been recovered, Ms Homer said.
"We were speedy and on the case," she told the MPs."We were speedy and on the case," she told the MPs.
She explained that in fact, two-thirds of the total group of UK-based HSBC account holders "were found to be compliant" with UK tax rules, in some cases because they had non-dom status.She explained that in fact, two-thirds of the total group of UK-based HSBC account holders "were found to be compliant" with UK tax rules, in some cases because they had non-dom status.