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4.57pm GMT16:57

Phew! Well that was fun, wasn’t it? Except for the football getting in the way of the pedantry talk. You can get all the final scores over here and you can get all the latest tables over here. That’s all from me. Thanks for all the emails, opinions and Tweets. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Bye!

4.53pm GMT16:53

It’s all over in West Bromwich Albion v Stoke. It ended 1-0 to the home side.

Updated at 5.12pm GMT

4.52pm GMT16:52

Meanwhile in Spain ...

Atletico goal drought away from Calderon goes on. Now not scored away from home in 425 mins away from home in all comps.

4.51pm GMT16:51

It’s all over. Leicester 0-0 Hull. Same in Sunderland. Sunderland 0-4 Aston Villa. Poyet’s face is like thunder, thunder who has been told he’ll never be thundering ever again. We are all done in north London too. Arsenal 3-0 West Ham. They are still playing in West Bromwich Albion v Stoke. Two minutes left there.

Updated at 4.52pm GMT

4.50pm GMT16:50

“I feel humbled by the support my work is receiving,” says Ian Copestake. “In fact I feel like the Gus Poyet of the proofreading world.”

4.47pm GMT16:47

Three goals + some pretty football = snooze time.

This is the emirates for you pic.twitter.com/HWLpCoqvwF

4.46pm GMT16:46

Norwich are looking nervous. Very nervous. Derby are looking serious. Very serious. Watford, meanwhile, have another and it is a belter of a half-volley from Fernando Forestieri.

Updated at 4.56pm GMT

4.43pm GMT16:43

Some Championship scores. Sheffield Wednesday and Fulham are playing out a terrible 1-1 draw on what looks a real pudding of a pitch at Hillsborough. Cardiff are 2-1 up against Brentford. Brighton and Wolves is also 1-1. Charlton are 1-3 down at home to Blackburn and an under-strength Reading have pulled one back against Watford.

4.41pm GMT16:41

GOAL! Arsenal 3-0 West Ham (Flamini)

More of the same from Arsenal. Flamini, who had just come on from Ozil, scores with his first touch, tapping it in at the back post. Game done and dusted.

Updated at 4.49pm GMT

4.39pm GMT16:39

GOAL! Arsenal 2-0 West Ham (Ramsey)

More lovely interplay in and around the area from Arsenal sees Giroud set up Ramsey (returning he earlier favour/assist) and he scores his first goal since early December. Pressure is on Man City now.

Updated at 4.39pm GMT

4.38pm GMT16:38

“Please tell M. Fong,” snarks Gene Salorio, “that I loathe spelling errors, especially by proof readers, and that I am not loath to point it out.”

4.36pm GMT16:36

Michael Oliver won’t be welcome around West Brom parts for the next while. He has just ignored the most obvious penalty claim you are likely to see this season.

4.32pm GMT16:32

“So it’s safe to say Ian Copestake’s day has been a bit like Sunderland’s,” reckons Austin Baird. “Start out full of optimism; make a schoolboy error; afternoon turns to a period of real hurt. Welcome to the world of SAFC.”

4.31pm GMT16:31

RED CARD FOR HUDDLESTONE!

The Hull midfielder was chasing down Jamie Vardy, it looked like the Leicester man stepped in front of him and there was nothing Huddlestone could do but take him down with a trip. He already had a yellow and he soon had another to go with it.

Updated at 4.33pm GMT

4.28pm GMT16:28

There has been another big goal in the Championship and it has gone to ... Derby! A corner was sent over and Ruddy went to claim it but instead he spilled the ball into his own net, thus allowing Derby back into the game. Deary me.

4.25pm GMT16:25

“Surely it’s Pardew for Sunderland,” reckons Gene Salorio. “He’s already done enough to keep both Newcastle and Palace up this year so why not let him try for a hat trick? Plus Newcastle supporters detest him and what better way for him to show his appreciation for all the support they offered during his time there.”

4.24pm GMT16:24

Another to Bayern. Another to Robert Lewandowski. They are into time added on there.

4.23pm GMT16:23

Emirates crowd to injured referee Chris Foy: "You're not fit to referee!"

4.21pm GMT16:21

“A bit loathe to rat out a colleague in the industry,” says M.Fong. “But I dare say that Mr Copestake’s offer that “all proofing errors discovered by prospective clients in advertising copy” be rewarded “by reduced rates and self-flagellation” is incorrect and should really be rewarded with reduced rates and self-flagellation.”

Take that Copestake (and party).

4.18pm GMT16:18

Over to League One for a moment or two. Leads Bristol City are being held to a goalless draw with Gillingham, while second-place Preston are 2-1 up in their game with Crewe. In the big game at the bottom of the table, it is Colchester 2-2 Crawley. That one has been quite the ding-dong. Leyton Orient have added a third.

Updated at 4.19pm GMT

4.14pm GMT16:14

It’s 3-0 to Bayern. Still no score from the in game in Spain, though.

GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAL! @lewy_official taps into an empty net after great work from @esmuellert_. #FCBayernLive #SVWFCB 0-3 (77')

4.12pm GMT16:12

If Poyet goes. who could Sunderland get in? So far my shortlist is Paul Lambert, Harry Redknapp, Roy Keane and Peter Moores.

4.11pm GMT16:11

“20-16 now,” says Alys Barber-Rogers. “V tense. Noise update? Thought you’d never ask. LOUD. Thoroughly recommend watching rugby with Welsh people.”

4.10pm GMT16:10

There has been a couple of early goals in the Championship. Bournemouth have scored another – thanks to Callum Wilson – and so too have Watford – thanks to Troy Deeney. If those games weren’t over already, they most certainly are now. Should have typed this before half-time but Matt Derbyshire has pulled one back for Rotherham against Wigan.

4.07pm GMT16:07

By the way, how are Ireland getting on? Have they lost yet?

4.07pm GMT16:07

Wait, there is he. And he is hobbling back onto the pitch. What an utter mess.

Sunderland fans: "We're gonna win 5-4!"

Updated at 4.08pm GMT

4.06pm GMT16:06

Sunderland were booed onto the pitch. (Is that a first?) But only 10 of them were booed. Sebastian Larsson was nowhere to be seen. Poyet has gone down the tunnel to see where he is.

Updated at 4.28pm GMT

4.04pm GMT16:04

Pies have been woofed down, beers have been sunk like Michel Salgado’s luxury yacht and we are back in action around the grounds. Speaking of Michel Salgado’s luxury yacht, Marie Meyer has this to say?

Are you familiar with the old saying about how much pleasure one gets from owning a boat? Your second-happiest day is the day you buy it. Your happiest is the day it burns to the water line.

4.01pm GMT16:01

“Soemdoby ocne tlod me taht the odrer of the lettres deosn’t mettar, as lnog as the frist and lsat lettres are in the rghit palce,” reckons Simon McMahon. “Myabe Ian Cepostkae can cnofrim tihs?”

4.00pm GMT16:00

We have not been telling you about the game between Espanyol and Atlético Madrid. And that’s with good reason. There is not to talk about. Over in Germany, Bayern are still cruising against Bremen. If you can, do a quick search for Bayern’s second one. Tis a very sweetly struck free-kick.

3.56pm GMT15:56

J.R. in Illinois has been watching the West Bromwich Albion v Stoke so we don’t have to. Here is what he has to say about it all. “Charlie Adam is having one of those games at the Hawthorns. You know, the kind where he runs around trying to hurt people. He has not fully succeeded as of halftime. Even though he doesn’t even have a yellow yet I don’t think he’s going to make it 90 minutes.”

3.51pm GMT15:51

It’s half time around the grounds. All the scores you need are here. Back in two shakes of a lamb’s tail.

3.49pm GMT15:49

“Id be more than happy to have a copy of Dr. Copestake’s book,” says Mac Millings. “I’ll sit and read it aloud to him while he flagellates himself. He’ll want to.”

3.48pm GMT15:48

GOAL! Arsenal 1-0 West Ham (Giroud)

Arsenal do some of that pass and move stuff before Giroud takes the ball from Ramsey and sends it hurtling into the back of the net.

4 - Olivier Giroud has scored in four successive Premier League appearances for only the second time (also Aug-Sep 2013). Strike.

Updated at 4.05pm GMT

3.46pm GMT15:46

Right back to the goals in the Championship. The last time we talked about Bournemouth, they and Pitman had one goal, now both have three. Watford have also increased their lead. It’s 2-0 now. And amazingly, Wigan are two up against Rotherham.

3.45pm GMT15:45

GOAL! Sunderland 0-4 Aston Villa (Benteke)

Goodbye Gus! It’s been real.

Updated at 3.51pm GMT

3.43pm GMT15:43

More on Sunderland and their fans, this time from Steven Hughes.

You’re dead right to say that Sunderland fans have got every right to boo. I never understand the finger-wagging that goes on when fans boo. I know that football is a business but in every other business the ‘consumer’ has the power not to eat at the restaurant that has served them terrible food or to not buy clothes at a shop which has sold them something that falls apart quickly but football fans are a captured market: Sunderland fans aren’t going to support Newcastle instead, are they? Booing is the only weapon that fans really have at their disposal to demonstrate their disapproval (if they don’t turn up, it can just get interpreted as apathy.) and those who get paid to turn up to football matches, as opposed to fans who *pay* to turn up, would do well to remember that. Personally, I can’t remember greater footballing noise that the cheering that I once heard when I was at the Stadium of Light. Sunderland scored against my side, and it was noise on the level of ‘Mogwai’ or ‘My Bloody Valentine’. Hope they eventually find some light at the end of the tunnel.

3.41pm GMT15:41

“As Mac Mullings well knows,” says Ian Copestake, “all proofing errors discovered by prospective clients in advertising copy are rewarded by reduced rates and self-flagellation.” If you are really nice to Ian, he’ll also send you a copy of his book.

3.40pm GMT15:40

Poyet out? The fans, the ones who are still there, are getting all up in grille and letting him know exactly what they think of him.

3.38pm GMT15:38

GOAL! Sunderland 0-3 Aston Villa (Agbonlahor)

THE FANS ARE WALKING OUT OF THE STADIUM OF LIGHT! And it’s all thanks to Agbonlahor’s second goal of the game. As well their team being more miserable than your average teenager. Poyet is slumping in his seat.

Updated at 3.38pm GMT

3.36pm GMT15:36

There has been a big goal in the Championship and it has gone to ... Norwich. A wonderful move involving Johnson, Hoolahan and Olsson is finished off by Jerome and Derby are breached away from home once more.

3.33pm GMT15:33

Don’t you just hate when this happens?

Michel Salgado’s luxury yacht goes up in flames http://t.co/Wh8Ye6M3kT pic.twitter.com/e1fGwb5C1g

3.32pm GMT15:32

“Dearest Ian,” cheers Mac Millings, “I’m enjoying Ian Copestake’s marvellous proofreader’s joke where he purposely misspelled “sponsor”. And it surely must be a joke, because obviously he wouldn’t put his good name and web address on a piece of proofreading self-promotion that he hadn’t actually unproofread.”

Well Ian, was it?

3.31pm GMT15:31

Some scores in the Championship for you. Birmingham are drawing 1-1 with Huddersfield, Brentford are one ahead of Cardiff and Blackburn are 2-0 up away to Charlton, but other than that those scores there is nothing new under the sun. Down in League Two Burton Albion are a step closer to League One thanks to a penalty from McCrory.

3.25pm GMT15:25

Bremen started well but they crumbled before the referee blew for half-time. Thomas Muller got the first and David Alaba got the second. Hard to see them coming back from there.

3.22pm GMT15:22

The net has yet to be found at Leicester versus Hull but it should have been. Jelavic had the goal at his mercy and it looked easier to miss than score but miss he did.

Unbelievable miss by Jelavic for #HCAFC against #LCAFC. Had only to connect from six yards in front of empty goal.

Updated at 3.26pm GMT

3.20pm GMT15:20

GOAL! West Bromwich Albion 1-0 Stoke (Ideye)

The ball comes in from the right, Bardsley turns his back on the ball and Ideye heads it into the bottom corner. That is his seventh of the season.

3.19pm GMT15:19

GOAL! Sunderland 0-2 Aston Villa (Agbonlahor)

The home fans are booing and they have every right to. Some shambolic defending and bad reading from John O’Shea lets Agbonlahor in and the Villa striker scores with ease.

Updated at 3.30pm GMT

3.17pm GMT15:17

GOAL! Sunderland 0-1 Aston Villa (Benteke)

Some nice buildup play see Leandro Bacuna set up Benteke and he fires it home from close-range, though it looks like it might have taken a deflection on its way via Wes Brown. Tim Sherwood, oddly, shows no emotion.

Updated at 3.27pm GMT

3.16pm GMT15:16

In League One, second-placed Preston are one to the good against Crewe. Joe Garner did the damage there.

3.13pm GMT15:13

Well that’s the game over for Blackpool. Bournemouth take the lead thanks to Brett Pitman’s left footed shot from the centre of the box. Bad news for fans of Millwall. Your side is 1-0 to Bolton after a decent effort from Le Fondre.

3.11pm GMT15:11

“Didn’t Dr Copestake miss a trick by neglecting to offer advice that today’s Heroic Clockwatch Predictions (TM MBM) have been fully vetted by a leading European proofreading firm?” wonders Lou Roper. “In addition to allowing prospective clients to rate the work of slovos.com in a suitably academic environment, we would receive further confirmation of the appropriate gravitas of the MBM service. May we please have such assurances?”

Updated at 3.11pm GMT

3.09pm GMT15:09

Over in League One. Leyton Orient don’t win many at home – they have lost 11 there this season and drawn another three – but they are going to win today. They are already two up against Yeovil.

2: Strong work from Jobi McAnuff sees Chris Dagnall with a yard of room outside the box and he strikes home! 1-0 Orient!

7: The great start gets even better, as Dossena's shot comes loose to Hedges, who strokes home from 8 yards. 2-0 Orient!

3.06pm GMT15:06

Over in Arsenal. Walcott was put through on goal but took far too long to decide what to do with it and West Ham recovered in time to clear the danger.

3.05pm GMT15:05

There has been an early and very crucial goal in League Two. After just 30 seconds Wycombe have gone one up against Shrewsbury thanks to Sam Wood. In the Championship, there has also been an early goal and it has gone to Watford. Almen Abdi with that one.

3.01pm GMT15:01

Reus doing Batman was so much better:

Hertha Berlin's Ben Hatira playing dress-up now. Spiderman Redux. 1-0 up against Schalke. pic.twitter.com/gx4lIcFAwi

3.00pm GMT15:00

Peep go the whistles all around the country and it is off we go. Here is what our man in north London has to say about the pre-game atmosphere.

Five minutes to kick off! Emirates stadium already a white hot cauldron of not really paying much attention

2.56pm GMT14:56

Tots lolz. As the kids would text. Do the kids still text?

2.55pm GMT14:55

“I miss the days when the heroic clockwatch reporter would make a prediction for the Prem. scores,” says Ian Copestake before inserting a shameless self plug in the upcoming sentence. “You could even sponser them: ‘this afternoon’s predictions brought to you in association with slovos.com: for all your proofreading needs.’” Go on then.

Arsenal 2-0 West Ham

Leicester 0-1 Hull

Sunderland 0-1 Aston Villa

West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Stoke

As brought to you by yada, yada, yada.

2.47pm GMT14:47

“9-0 to Wales,” says Alys Barber-Rogers. “FYI Welsh people, including my husband, are brilliantly loud. Also, they can sing. Did anyone else know that?”

2.45pm GMT14:45

About 15 minutes gone but no goals to tell you about in Germany just yet. By all accounts, Bremen have made the better start against Bayern, who have Pepe Reina making his debut in goal for the club.

Updated at 2.45pm GMT

2.36pm GMT14:36

Richard Gibson was the Riverside to watch that aforementioned match between Middlesbrough and Ipswich. Here is what he has to say about it.

2.32pm GMT14:32

If anyone could be so kind as to keep me abreast of Ireland’s performance in the defeat to Wales in the Six Nations, that would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. Yours nervously. IMC

2.30pm GMT14:30

Good luck Bremen, you are going to need it.

Bayern Munich have scored 33 goals in nine games (all competitions) since their 4-1 loss to Wolfsburg in January. #FCBayern

2.28pm GMT14:28

Simon McMahon has been in touch. “Afternoon Ian. It’s all I can do to concentrate today, as all roads in Scotland lead to Hampden tomorrow for the League Cup final between Dundee United and Celtic. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves – COME ON UNITED! – there’s SPFL business at the bottom of the table today as both Ross County and St. Mirren look to take advantage of Motherwell’s defeat at Aberdeen last night. Its Hamilton v. County, Kilmarnock v. St. Mirren and Partick Thistle v. St. Johnstone.”

2.27pm GMT14:27

Make that 3-1. Matt Phillips has just hit the top corner of the Crystal Palace net from 45 yards out. Twas a sensational strike the Scottish international but from that distance Speroni should have done much better. “How shit must you be, we scored away!” croon the QPR fans. Oh, they’re a funny lot those QPR ones.

Updated at 2.29pm GMT

2.24pm GMT14:24

It is almost all over in the early Premier League game too where Crystal Palace are leading QPR 3-0 with 10 minutes to go. As a nipper, we used to say QPR was an acronym for Quarter Pound of Rubbish. On today’s performance, we were not wrong.

2.22pm GMT14:22

It is all over in the early game in the Championship where Middlesbrough have really done a number on Ipswich. Daniel Ayal gave his side an early lead until Daryl Murphy drew Ipswich level. But that was the last time these two sides would be even for the rest of the match. Albert Adomah made it 2-1 in the 30th minute and Patrick Bamford struck twice in the second half to ensure the points stayed on Teesside and his side go top of the league. They couldn’t, could they?

2.15pm GMT14:15

Some Premeir league team enlightenment for you to get all juiced up about

Arsenal v West Ham

Arsenal: Ospina, Chambers, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Ramsey, Walcott, Ozil, Alexis, Giroud. Subs: Szczesny, Gibbs, Bellerin, Flamini, Cazorla, Welbeck, Akpom.

West Ham: Adrian, O’Brien, Collins, Kouyate, Cresswell, Song, Noble, Nolan, Jarvis, Downing, Sakho. Subs: Jaaskelainen, Demel, Onariase, Poyet, Cullen, Amalfitano, Nene.

Referee: Chris Foy

Leicester v Hull

Leicester: Schwarzer, De Laet, Upson, Huth, Morgan, Schlupp, Vardy, Cambiasso, James, Mahrez, Kramaric. Subs: Schmeichel, Drinkwater, King, Lawrence, Ulloa, Wasilewski, Nugent.

Hull: McGregor, Dawson, Bruce, McShane, Elmohamady, Livermore, Huddlestone, Ramírez, Robertson, Jelavić, N’Doye. Subs: Harper, Figueroa, Davies, Meyler, Hernández, Aluko, Quinn.

Referee: Jonathan Moss

Sunderland v Aston Villa

Sunderland: Pantilimon, Reveillere, van Aanholt, Brown, O’Shea, Bridcutt, Larsson, Rodwell, Alvarez, Defoe, Fletcher. Subs: Jones, Wickham, Gomez, Graham, Coates, Vergini, Mannone.

Aston Villa: Guzan, Lowton, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, Delph, Cleverley, Sinclair, N’Zogbia, Benteke, Agbonlahor. Subs: Given, Gil, Sanchez, Kinsella, Weimann, Westwood, Hepburn-Murphy.

Referee: Neil Swarbrick

West Bromwich Albion v Stoke

West Bromwich Albion: Foster, Dawson, McAuley, Lescott, Brunt, Morrison, Fletcher, Gardner, Sessegnon, Berahino, Ideye. Subs: Myhill, Wisdom, Pocognoli, Olsson, Baird, Mulumbu, Gamboa.

Stoke: Begovic; Bardsley, Shawcross, Wilson, Pieters; Nzonzi, Whelan; Walters, Adam, Moses; Crouch. Subs: Butland; Ireland, Arnautovic, Diouf, Cameron, Sidwell, Teixeira.

Referee: Kevin Friend

2.05pm GMT14:05

Meanwhile in Germany:

Der Bus des @FCBayern ist gerade auf der Neuenlander in #Bremen liegen geblieben - kein Benzin mehr. #werder #SVWFCB pic.twitter.com/imCFjPm4NJ

Insert your own Bayern not-running-out-of-gas joke here.

1.48pm GMT13:48

Hello to you and you and you!

Good afternoon and welcome abroad the good ship Clocko. You’ve missed it, haven’t you? The Premier League that is, not Clocko. Clocko could be trapped down a well with nothing to survive on but cream crackers and a can of cranberry juice and you would walk on by, headphones on blast, without missing a step. But if that were the Premier League down the well, you’d be all there with the ladders, you’d have a host of top-notch celebrities recording songs, you’d have police reading it bedtime stories so it doesn’t get lonely. And that’s OK. Clocko knows it is the mere conduit for the all-singing, all-scoring starlet that is the Premier League. Did we mention it’s back? It is, you know. With four games on offer. Arsenal v West Ham; Leicester v Hull; Sunderland v Aston Villa; and West Bromwich Albion v Stoke. But that is not where the action stops. Oh! No!

Down in the Championship, every single one of the teams can still win the right to be relegated from the Premier League next season. OK, OK, not every single one, but at least eight of them and, get this, the top four sides are all on 66 points, which makes it one of the Europe’s hottest leagues right about now. Top of the pile is Bournemouth and they are taking on bottom of the pile Blackpool. As it is their custom, Blackpool will take a 2-0 lead and throw it all in the second half, allowing the Dean Court side to increase their goals for column. Second-placed Derby have a far trickier affair to negotiate this afternoon. They are at home but they are home to Norwich. The Canaries are the only side to have beaten Bournemouth away from home since mid September and they are bang in form at the moment, having picked up 15 points from their last six games. When the two sides came together earlier in the season a 2-2 draw was the result but Norwich will fancy themselves to go one better this time around. Watford are the third side with 66 points to their name and they are taking on Reading this afternoon. The Royals should be safe this season and have a decent record when they take to the turf at Vicarage Road, having won their last two games there. Saying that, of late Watford are tougher than an over-cooked pork chop when it comes to being beaten at home. The final team that makes up the fantastic four is Middlesbrough but by the time you are reading this, they will be beating Ipswich by a few. One last thing re the Championship. Down at the bottom, Wigan can give themselves hope of out running The Drop by beating fellow strugglers Rotherham but it will be the cruel, cruel hope. They, Millwall (who take on Bolton) and Blackpool are being shed like a boxer with roll after roll of sweaty, useless, disgusting flab.

Moving on to League One. Unlike the Championship, this division contains only one side on 66 points and that is second-placed Preston. This afternoon, they welcome Crewe to Deepdale. With the return of Scott Wiseman, Simon Grayson has a full-strength squad to try defeat the Railwaymen and increase their chances of, like M People, moving on up and moving on out. That will not be a foregone conclusion though. Steve Davis knows his side are still right in the thick of the relegation mix – “I think there are still nine, ten, eleven teams still in it. You have to keep going and looking to pick up points” – and will have them suitably amped for an upset. One side who need not fret about their chances of making it to the Championship are Bristol City. They have a 13-point gap on Preston. That’s right. Thirteen. Lucky for some. Today though they face a tough nut in Gillingham, who have been in form recently and, like many managers in this division, Justin Edinburgh still harbours hope of making the playoffs (six points separates 6th and 16th). “We are in good form and if we can maintain that, who knows? You have to have aspirations to achieve that.” The other top-half-of-the-table clash to keep an eye out for is Doncaster and Peterborough. Both are 50 points and only separated by goal difference. That should be a tasty treat.

Finally to League Two and beyond. Let’s get beyond out the way first. Over in Germany, Bayern will beat Werder Bremen by at least 6 goals, while in Spain, Atlético Madrid will play out a tough 1-1 draw away to Espanyol. Back to Britannia. Tis tight at the top in League Two. Burton Albion are on top but just by two points from Shrewsbury Town who are just one ahead of Wycombe Wanderers. Come 3pm, Burton will take on Accrington and, given how many goals Accrington concede on the road, should be able to overcome them. But the big game of the day involves the other two as Wycombe welcome Shrewsbury. The last four games between these sides have ended in a draw and that is the sort of result that would have Burton grinning like the cat who has not only got the cream but got a nice slice of carrot cake and a well-made flat white to go with it too. Down at the bottom, Hartlepool looked to be a lost cause but Tranmere are still breathing. They currently sit in the spot marked 23rd but a win over Northampton could lift them as high as 20th. Can they do it? Well why not stick around and find out? Sure what else would you be doing of a spring afternoon?