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| Crystal Palace v Manchester City: Premier League – live! | Crystal Palace v Manchester City: Premier League – live! |
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| 8.59pm BST20:59 | |
| “I can’t agree re consistency across more than one game,” emails Nick Cooke. “That’s exactly what fans (and players and managers) are looking for e.g. re. offside calls, red card offences.” | |
| Of course, that might be ideal - I’m not sure if I think so - but the referees are different, so apprise things differently. Consistency across a game is all we can ask. | |
| 8.58pm BST20:58 | |
| “Burnistoun town’s favourite son is the sort of chap folks on the MBM should readily sympathize with”, reckons Phil Podolsky. | |
| 8.57pm BST20:57 | |
| “Keen insight from @DanielHarris”, tweets Jack Goodson. “36 min Palace deserve to be ahead by virtue of their being ahead.” | |
| Point is that the only way to measure who deserves what is by the objective matrix of the score. | |
| 8.55pm BST20:55 | |
| Turns out that Murray was behind the ball, as pointed out by Gary Neville after slowing down the film and putting lines across the pitch. Whatever, well played linesman. | |
| 8.53pm BST20:53 | |
| Half-time entertainment: football ground quiz, then and now. | |
| 8.52pm BST20:52 | |
| That was enjoyable. Palace started well, City were excellent for 25 minutes, then a controversial goal. Well, controversial in that Murray was offside, not controversial in that it wasn’t by much, and these things happen. City had plenty of time before and have plenty of time after to resolve matters to their advantage; should they lose or draw, it won’t be the reason why. | |
| Updated at 8.58pm BST | |
| 8.47pm BST20:47 | |
| HALF-TIME: Crystal Palace 1-0 Manchester City | |
| Vincent Kompany and Joe Hart are still emoting to Michael Oliver as they depart the pitch at half-time - the former in infinite languages, no doubt. | |
| Updated at 8.50pm BST | |
| 8.46pm BST20:46 | |
| 45 min There shall be a single, solitary, additional minute. | |
| 8.45pm BST20:45 | |
| 44 min “After that Palace goal, Kompany placed his hands on Michael Oliver while arguing - isn’t that a booking like Di Maria received?” asks Nick Parmenter. | |
| I’d be inclined towards leniency in both cases, but reckon Di Maria suffered because he approached from behind. Also, we can only expect referees to apply the laws consistently across a single game. | |
| 8.43pm BST20:43 | |
| 43 min The email address to use is not as previously stated, rather daniel.harris.casual@theguardian.com | |
| Updated at 8.47pm BST | |
| 8.42pm BST20:42 | |
| 42 min It looks as though Dann might have been marginally onside and Murray marginally offside in the goal. Or, put another way, there are no grounds for apoplexy whatsoever. | |
| 8.41pm BST20:41 | |
| 40 min Aguero runs at Ledley, nipping the ball past his outside and skating by. Naturally, Ledley crumps legs into legs, and is booked. | |
| 8.40pm BST20:40 | |
| 38 min This vaguely sums up the madness with accents: “This vaguely sums up the madness with accents,” tweets Jamie Gordon. | |
| 8.39pm BST20:39 | |
| 36 min Palace deserve to be ahead by virtue of their being ahead. | |
| 8.35pm BST20:35 | |
| GOAL! Crystal Palace 1-0 Manchester City (Murray, 34) | |
| Er, as I said, a goal was coming. Palace skanked a corner from the right - it was nonsense, straight to a defender at the near post - but, somehow, earned them another. This too was cleared, but Kelly clipped a pass to the edge of the box, where Ledley’s flick-on suddenly found Dann one-on-one with Hart, inside the box on its left. He slid a just about acceptable effort that was stopped via legs that diverted the ball into the path of Murray, who ran it home - that’s five in five for him. City are certain that both he and Dann were offside, and accordingly, significant displeasure ensued. Football is hilarious. | |
| Updated at 8.55pm BST | |
| 8.34pm BST20:34 | |
| 32 min Another long passage of City excellence. First, Silva’s low shot from just outside the box is seen late and parried away well by Speroni. Then, another Silva shot from the right of the box hits a back and loops to its far side, where Zaha dallies and is robbed by Aguero. He nudges back to Fernandinho, who slides him back in, and, unwilling to use his left foot, pokes powerfully, futsal-style, just over the bar. | |
| 8.32pm BST20:32 | |
| 31 min Toure emerges into the game, knocking off a ball wide to Sagna. His cross is a goodun, headed behind, and Palace don’t clear the corner properly at first instance, eventually hacking a low cross behind. This time, the ball goes near post, Demichelis flicks, and someone manages to nudge away from Dzeko, but only just. A goal is imminent. | |
| 8.30pm BST20:30 | |
| 29 min Fernandinho strides through midfield and finds Dzeko, collects the return, and finds Navas. The cross, though, enables Zaha to break - but only for a second, as Clichy is right into him, a tackle that sets City off on another passage of possession - 80% in the last ten minutes. | |
| Updated at 8.34pm BST | |
| 8.27pm BST20:27 | |
| 27 min Pardew needs to devise a plan for Silva - he’s wandering infield unmolested at the moment. Though, on the other hand, if Bolasie stays wide, he’s primed to attack into space when Palace break. | |
| 8.26pm BST20:26 | |
| 25 min Another passage of City passing, Silva zoning across the face of the box then snapping back the other way, to leave McArthur gasping. But nothing comes of the attack, Toure adjudged to have fouled Ledley - I think - in pursuit of a ball in behind. | |
| 8.23pm BST20:23 | 8.23pm BST20:23 |
| 23 min “It’s been gnawing at me a while,” emails Charles Antaki, “but why do the commentators insist on calling Silva ‘Davvid’? As I remember, Ginola was always ‘Daveed’”. | 23 min “It’s been gnawing at me a while,” emails Charles Antaki, “but why do the commentators insist on calling Silva ‘Davvid’? As I remember, Ginola was always ‘Daveed’”. |
| I’m no expert, I’m afraid, but presumably his name isn’t Dayvid Silver. What I do find odd, though, is the use of accents - but only for Continental names. There was no Laindun Duhnavon, nor Dwight Yarke. | I’m no expert, I’m afraid, but presumably his name isn’t Dayvid Silver. What I do find odd, though, is the use of accents - but only for Continental names. There was no Laindun Duhnavon, nor Dwight Yarke. |
| Updated at 8.24pm BST | Updated at 8.24pm BST |
| 8.21pm BST20:21 | 8.21pm BST20:21 |
| 21 min City are bossing this now, passing accurately and with purpose. | 21 min City are bossing this now, passing accurately and with purpose. |
| Updated at 8.35pm BST | |
| 8.20pm BST20:20 | 8.20pm BST20:20 |
| 19 min This is beautiful from City. Sagna finds Silva at inside-left, and he shuffles inside, as he does, gliding a pass to Aguero, loitering across the face of the box. Despite the attention of various defenders, he sidewinds back right, as he does, conjures a yard, as he does, and spins into a cross shot, as he does - it’s low and hard, but smacks the base of the far post. | 19 min This is beautiful from City. Sagna finds Silva at inside-left, and he shuffles inside, as he does, gliding a pass to Aguero, loitering across the face of the box. Despite the attention of various defenders, he sidewinds back right, as he does, conjures a yard, as he does, and spins into a cross shot, as he does - it’s low and hard, but smacks the base of the far post. |
| Updated at 8.30pm BST | |
| 8.18pm BST20:18 | 8.18pm BST20:18 |
| 18 min Puncheon drills a searching ball down the line, both Zaha and Bolasie charging at Kompany - he does well to arrive first and clear firmly. | 18 min Puncheon drills a searching ball down the line, both Zaha and Bolasie charging at Kompany - he does well to arrive first and clear firmly. |
| 8.16pm BST20:16 | 8.16pm BST20:16 |
| 16 min Murray is putting hissel aboot, winning headers against both Kompany and Demichelis, but City are quicker to the second balls than they were in the first ten minutes. | 16 min Murray is putting hissel aboot, winning headers against both Kompany and Demichelis, but City are quicker to the second balls than they were in the first ten minutes. |
| Updated at 8.17pm BST | Updated at 8.17pm BST |
| 8.15pm BST20:15 | 8.15pm BST20:15 |
| 14 min Better few minutes for City, pushing Palace back and moving the ball sharply. Silva, on the right of the box, tries to stab a pass past Ledley, looking for Dzeko, but it catches a shoulder - there’re appeals for handball, but they’re nonsense. | 14 min Better few minutes for City, pushing Palace back and moving the ball sharply. Silva, on the right of the box, tries to stab a pass past Ledley, looking for Dzeko, but it catches a shoulder - there’re appeals for handball, but they’re nonsense. |
| 8.14pm BST20:14 | 8.14pm BST20:14 |
| 11 min Ward raps a pass into Murray’s feet, Demichelis gets too close, and pulls him down to compensate. The free-kick is wasted, and Hart immediately clips downfield, Sander Westerveld-style. Haring off to the left is Aguero, and he nips by Speroni, who elects to come out. With Aguero too wide to shoot, he jockeys, and the bal’s cut back to Silva, arriving into the box. Ward’s presence forces him to jink, Speroni sprinting back to mind his net all the while, and the eventual shot clips his shoulder and dashes over the top. | 11 min Ward raps a pass into Murray’s feet, Demichelis gets too close, and pulls him down to compensate. The free-kick is wasted, and Hart immediately clips downfield, Sander Westerveld-style. Haring off to the left is Aguero, and he nips by Speroni, who elects to come out. With Aguero too wide to shoot, he jockeys, and the bal’s cut back to Silva, arriving into the box. Ward’s presence forces him to jink, Speroni sprinting back to mind his net all the while, and the eventual shot clips his shoulder and dashes over the top. |
| Updated at 8.14pm BST | Updated at 8.14pm BST |
| 8.10pm BST20:10 | 8.10pm BST20:10 |
| 10 min “Pardew does know something - how to finish 12th”, tweets Gary Baylor. “Some managers fit in at one level: Harry Bassett; Tony Pulis; Ian Holloway...” | 10 min “Pardew does know something - how to finish 12th”, tweets Gary Baylor. “Some managers fit in at one level: Harry Bassett; Tony Pulis; Ian Holloway...” |
| I agree - but I think Pardew might be better than that/ | I agree - but I think Pardew might be better than that/ |
| 8.08pm BST20:08 | 8.08pm BST20:08 |
| 8 min Ledley snaps a ball into Puncheon’s feet, and he flips it around the corner as Fernandinho rattles in from behind. Palace make nothing of the space it’s created, but they’ve already shown City that they’re in for a tricky evening. | 8 min Ledley snaps a ball into Puncheon’s feet, and he flips it around the corner as Fernandinho rattles in from behind. Palace make nothing of the space it’s created, but they’ve already shown City that they’re in for a tricky evening. |
| 8.06pm BST20:06 | 8.06pm BST20:06 |
| 6 min David Silva twinkles infield, opens his body, and glides a ball between Delaney and Kelly for Toure, but Speroni is out sharply to avert the danger. | 6 min David Silva twinkles infield, opens his body, and glides a ball between Delaney and Kelly for Toure, but Speroni is out sharply to avert the danger. |
| 8.05pm BST20:05 | 8.05pm BST20:05 |
| 4 min Bit of possession for City, but when Clichy’s cross is headed clear, Bolasie’s excellent ball away finds Murray. With little assistance nearby, he doesn’t back himself to get by the much quicker Kompany, and instead runs himself out of position. | 4 min Bit of possession for City, but when Clichy’s cross is headed clear, Bolasie’s excellent ball away finds Murray. With little assistance nearby, he doesn’t back himself to get by the much quicker Kompany, and instead runs himself out of position. |
| Updated at 8.11pm BST | Updated at 8.11pm BST |
| 8.03pm BST20:03 | 8.03pm BST20:03 |
| 1 min There’s a crackling atmosphere at Selhurst tonight, and Palace are at it right away, Zaha’s clever backheel facing the right touchline transferred inside to Murray. He spots Kelly advancing down the left - Sagna has been drawn inside - who snaps a perfect cross to the back post. It evades Puncheon, but only just, reaching Zaha, in hectares of space - but he leans back, ramming a side-footer over the top. Great move, miserable finish. | 1 min There’s a crackling atmosphere at Selhurst tonight, and Palace are at it right away, Zaha’s clever backheel facing the right touchline transferred inside to Murray. He spots Kelly advancing down the left - Sagna has been drawn inside - who snaps a perfect cross to the back post. It evades Puncheon, but only just, reaching Zaha, in hectares of space - but he leans back, ramming a side-footer over the top. Great move, miserable finish. |
| Updated at 8.04pm BST | Updated at 8.04pm BST |
| 8.00pm BST20:00 | 8.00pm BST20:00 |
| 1 min Yo DJ, pump this party! | 1 min Yo DJ, pump this party! |
| 7.59pm BST19:59 | 7.59pm BST19:59 |
| Perhaps it’s the Croydon sun, but, for those of you watching in black and white, City are in the lilac shirts. | Perhaps it’s the Croydon sun, but, for those of you watching in black and white, City are in the lilac shirts. |
| 7.56pm BST19:56 | 7.56pm BST19:56 |
| Out come the players, cheerleaders, clapping. | Out come the players, cheerleaders, clapping. |
| Updated at 7.58pm BST | Updated at 7.58pm BST |
| 7.51pm BST19:51 | 7.51pm BST19:51 |
| Returning to Puncheon - turned into a support striker by Pardew - makes me wonder what that makes him. A centralised winger? A 10/7? | Returning to Puncheon - turned into a support striker by Pardew - makes me wonder what that makes him. A centralised winger? A 10/7? |
| 7.45pm BST19:45 | 7.45pm BST19:45 |
| Mention of Papa Souare reminds me that Jonathan Pearce once called Tom Soares Tom Swarez. Which reminds me that in his Capital Gold “Ian Wright, Wright, Wright!” and “Ready, Teddy, Go!” days of the early-to-mid-90s, he was very good at his job indeed. | Mention of Papa Souare reminds me that Jonathan Pearce once called Tom Soares Tom Swarez. Which reminds me that in his Capital Gold “Ian Wright, Wright, Wright!” and “Ready, Teddy, Go!” days of the early-to-mid-90s, he was very good at his job indeed. |
| 7.41pm BST19:41 | 7.41pm BST19:41 |
| Back to this evening, I wonder if City might find it tricky to contain Palace’s wingers, given wide midfielders not much given to defending, and whether Jason Puncheon might find space behind City’s midfield, given Yaya Toure not much given to defending. | Back to this evening, I wonder if City might find it tricky to contain Palace’s wingers, given wide midfielders not much given to defending, and whether Jason Puncheon might find space behind City’s midfield, given Yaya Toure not much given to defending. |
| 7.36pm BST19:36 | 7.36pm BST19:36 |
| Tangentially, this is very funny. | Tangentially, this is very funny. |
| 7.35pm BST19:35 | 7.35pm BST19:35 |
| It’s your Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays I feel sorry for, all left out of the Gregorian namechange. So many alliterative and hyperbolic possibilities, all wasted. | It’s your Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays I feel sorry for, all left out of the Gregorian namechange. So many alliterative and hyperbolic possibilities, all wasted. |
| 7.33pm BST19:33 | 7.33pm BST19:33 |
| The lights are on! It’s MNF! | The lights are on! It’s MNF! |
| 7.22pm BST19:22 | 7.22pm BST19:22 |
| Palace make one change from their win at Stoke, your Martin Kellys replacing your Papa Souares; City insert your Bacary Sagnas in place of your Pablo Zabaletas, and Sagna, Demichelis, Fernandinho and Dzeko come in too, while your Yaya Toures is fit. | Palace make one change from their win at Stoke, your Martin Kellys replacing your Papa Souares; City insert your Bacary Sagnas in place of your Pablo Zabaletas, and Sagna, Demichelis, Fernandinho and Dzeko come in too, while your Yaya Toures is fit. |
| Updated at 7.47pm BST | Updated at 7.47pm BST |
| 7.16pm BST19:16 | 7.16pm BST19:16 |
| Teams, teams, good for the heart. | Teams, teams, good for the heart. |
| Crystal Palace (a rudimentary 4-2-3-1): Speroni; Ward, Dann, Delaney, Kelly; Ledley, McArthur; Zaha, Puncheon, Bolasie; Murray. | Crystal Palace (a rudimentary 4-2-3-1): Speroni; Ward, Dann, Delaney, Kelly; Ledley, McArthur; Zaha, Puncheon, Bolasie; Murray. |
| Subs: Hennessey, Hangeland, Souare, Boateng, Sanogo, Gayle, Ameobi | Subs: Hennessey, Hangeland, Souare, Boateng, Sanogo, Gayle, Ameobi |
| Manchester City (a continental 4-4-2): Hart; Sagna, Kompany, Demichelis, Clichy; Navas, Fernandinho, Toure, Silva; Dzeko, Aguero | Manchester City (a continental 4-4-2): Hart; Sagna, Kompany, Demichelis, Clichy; Navas, Fernandinho, Toure, Silva; Dzeko, Aguero |
| Subs: Caballero, Zabaleta, Mangala, Milner, Fernando, Nasri, Lampard | Subs: Caballero, Zabaleta, Mangala, Milner, Fernando, Nasri, Lampard |
| Updated at 7.18pm BST | Updated at 7.18pm BST |
| 7.00pm BST19:00 | 7.00pm BST19:00 |
| Preamble | Preamble |
| You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, well, you just might find, you get what you need. Deep, man, pal, buddy, mate, mucker; makes you think, yeah? | You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, well, you just might find, you get what you need. Deep, man, pal, buddy, mate, mucker; makes you think, yeah? |
| More or less, this is how Manchester City have aimed to do business since Manuel Pellegrini arrived at the club. Need a winger, buy Jesus Navas; need a defensive midfielder, buy Fernandinho and Fernando; need a striker, buy Alvaro Negredo, Stevan Jovetic and Wilfried Bony; need a centre-back, buy Martin Demichelis and Eliaquim Mangala; need a right-back, take Bacary Sagna on a free. | More or less, this is how Manchester City have aimed to do business since Manuel Pellegrini arrived at the club. Need a winger, buy Jesus Navas; need a defensive midfielder, buy Fernandinho and Fernando; need a striker, buy Alvaro Negredo, Stevan Jovetic and Wilfried Bony; need a centre-back, buy Martin Demichelis and Eliaquim Mangala; need a right-back, take Bacary Sagna on a free. |
| Though a few of those aren’t bad, perhaps only Mangala was a first choice - the rest play positions in which there was a vacancy, and as such, were expected to fill them; they have not. This isn’t all City’s fault; yes, they should’ve chosen more wisely, and yes, they have benefitted from various strains of the outrageous, but Uefa might also have arranged a salary and transfer cap, rather than instituting FFP to protect the existing cartel; they did not. | Though a few of those aren’t bad, perhaps only Mangala was a first choice - the rest play positions in which there was a vacancy, and as such, were expected to fill them; they have not. This isn’t all City’s fault; yes, they should’ve chosen more wisely, and yes, they have benefitted from various strains of the outrageous, but Uefa might also have arranged a salary and transfer cap, rather than instituting FFP to protect the existing cartel; they did not. |
| So, here they are: out of Europe, out of the Cup, and fourth in the league. And, because with new status comes new expectations, it may be that Pellegrini is already for the off; a bad end to the season and it’ll be almost inevitable. | So, here they are: out of Europe, out of the Cup, and fourth in the league. And, because with new status comes new expectations, it may be that Pellegrini is already for the off; a bad end to the season and it’ll be almost inevitable. |
| Alan Pardew was confirmed as manager of Crystal Palace on 2 January; at the time, his new old club were third-bottom of the league, with 17 points from 20 games. Now, they are twelfth, with 36 points from 30 games, as safe as Newcastle are sorry. | Alan Pardew was confirmed as manager of Crystal Palace on 2 January; at the time, his new old club were third-bottom of the league, with 17 points from 20 games. Now, they are twelfth, with 36 points from 30 games, as safe as Newcastle are sorry. |
| In particular, Pardew has drilled his defence properly and extracted improvements from Wilfried Zaha and Jason Puncheon, but, more generally, his confidence and zest has permeated the performances of all his players. Like it or not, he knows something. | In particular, Pardew has drilled his defence properly and extracted improvements from Wilfried Zaha and Jason Puncheon, but, more generally, his confidence and zest has permeated the performances of all his players. Like it or not, he knows something. |
| Kick-off: 8pm | Kick-off: 8pm |