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| Webchat: the big climate change debate – as it happened | Webchat: the big climate change debate – as it happened |
| (6 days later) | |
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| And Earth is saved! | And Earth is saved! |
| Well maybe we’re jumping the gun a little bit there; and yet... This might be what we are contending with, but on the evidence of this debate alone, teenagers care profoundly about the state of the world and are not going to sit idly by while it implodes around us. Good to know there’s still a place for books though, eh? | Well maybe we’re jumping the gun a little bit there; and yet... This might be what we are contending with, but on the evidence of this debate alone, teenagers care profoundly about the state of the world and are not going to sit idly by while it implodes around us. Good to know there’s still a place for books though, eh? |
| @Marnie_Riches #GdnEcoChat These days a lot of kids have lost touch with the world around them. We can bring that back through our books | @Marnie_Riches #GdnEcoChat These days a lot of kids have lost touch with the world around them. We can bring that back through our books |
| @Marnie_Riches #GdnEcoChat Even simply enhancing their understanding of the world around them is a step in the right direction | @Marnie_Riches #GdnEcoChat Even simply enhancing their understanding of the world around them is a step in the right direction |
| The debate is still rolling and will be for some time yet we suspect (using up so much valuable electricity *sob*), but it’s all for a good cause so head over to #GdnEcoChat if you want to keep reading. | The debate is still rolling and will be for some time yet we suspect (using up so much valuable electricity *sob*), but it’s all for a good cause so head over to #GdnEcoChat if you want to keep reading. |
| A huge thank you to all our participants, authors, teens and everyone else; environmental activists, converts and sceptics alike. It takes all sorts to make (and save) a world. There’s plenty more coming up in our eco week on Guardian Children’s Books so do keep checking in on this list, and may the soothing and mellifluous tones of the inimitable Morgan Freeman carry you off to a new and better world... Happy recycling to all, and to all a goodnight. | A huge thank you to all our participants, authors, teens and everyone else; environmental activists, converts and sceptics alike. It takes all sorts to make (and save) a world. There’s plenty more coming up in our eco week on Guardian Children’s Books so do keep checking in on this list, and may the soothing and mellifluous tones of the inimitable Morgan Freeman carry you off to a new and better world... Happy recycling to all, and to all a goodnight. |
| 8.00pm BST | 8.00pm BST |
| 20:00 | 20:00 |
| And that's it! | And that's it! |
| With a wiping of the proverbial brow, the hour is up, the end is nigh... | With a wiping of the proverbial brow, the hour is up, the end is nigh... |
| @GdnChildrensBks Wow, this has been amazing - feeling in need of a sustainable cuppa now! Thanks to everyone! #GdnEcoChat | @GdnChildrensBks Wow, this has been amazing - feeling in need of a sustainable cuppa now! Thanks to everyone! #GdnEcoChat |
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| We were hoping for big and bold thoughts to come out of this debate, and perhaps we can claim a modicum of success here tonight if this is indeed true: | We were hoping for big and bold thoughts to come out of this debate, and perhaps we can claim a modicum of success here tonight if this is indeed true: |
| Indeed, and #clifi has huge scope & potential - it's the Biggest Call to Action. @BookAddictdGirl @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat | Indeed, and #clifi has huge scope & potential - it's the Biggest Call to Action. @BookAddictdGirl @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat |
| 7.57pm BST | 7.57pm BST |
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| Those of you who can’t bear the evening to end, we bring good news! | Those of you who can’t bear the evening to end, we bring good news! |
| Did you know there's a new Facebook page for #YA #clifi books? https://t.co/3wk2D9pR55 #GdnEcoChat | Did you know there's a new Facebook page for #YA #clifi books? https://t.co/3wk2D9pR55 #GdnEcoChat |
| 7.56pm BST | 7.56pm BST |
| 19:56 | 19:56 |
| There are just five minutes remaining but here’s a curveball. Why should we read cli-fi at all? | There are just five minutes remaining but here’s a curveball. Why should we read cli-fi at all? |
| I think we should read, what we want. We label things to much. READ and Enjoy! #clifi @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat | I think we should read, what we want. We label things to much. READ and Enjoy! #clifi @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat |
| 7.54pm BST | 7.54pm BST |
| 19:54 | 19:54 |
| So if it’s not over yet, where is cli-fi going to head in the future? | So if it’s not over yet, where is cli-fi going to head in the future? |
| What are the new frontiers for #clifi? How can authors take it forward in ways that engage? More genre-busting? @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat | What are the new frontiers for #clifi? How can authors take it forward in ways that engage? More genre-busting? @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat |
| Fantasy, yeah we can see that: | Fantasy, yeah we can see that: |
| I'm enjoying following the discussion on #GdnEcoChat. One of my long-term YA projects is an epic cli-fi fantasy. These issues are important. | I'm enjoying following the discussion on #GdnEcoChat. One of my long-term YA projects is an epic cli-fi fantasy. These issues are important. |
| Historical cli-fi, nice. | Historical cli-fi, nice. |
| @tbradman @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat that's dystopias, Cli-Fi isn't dystopia. It could be historical Cli-Fi! Little Ice Age... | @tbradman @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat that's dystopias, Cli-Fi isn't dystopia. It could be historical Cli-Fi! Little Ice Age... |
| Megan may well to onto a winner here though: | Megan may well to onto a winner here though: |
| @SarahCrossan @SeaHolding @sacilloyd Heart flutters plus animal rescues! Million pound idea! :D #GdnEcoChat | @SarahCrossan @SeaHolding @sacilloyd Heart flutters plus animal rescues! Million pound idea! :D #GdnEcoChat |
| 7.49pm BST | 7.49pm BST |
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| A reassuring assertion from Kate Kelly that we would second: | A reassuring assertion from Kate Kelly that we would second: |
| @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat No, I don't think it's a fad. I think the themes it explores are too important for that. | @GdnChildrensBks #GdnEcoChat No, I don't think it's a fad. I think the themes it explores are too important for that. |
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| A case in point: | A case in point: |
| Great tip to use The Lorax by Dr. Suess to teach about climate change to very young children. Classic! #GdnEcoChat pic.twitter.com/XqUepwPcNn | Great tip to use The Lorax by Dr. Suess to teach about climate change to very young children. Classic! #GdnEcoChat pic.twitter.com/XqUepwPcNn |
| Any other suggestions for unexpected environmental reads? | Any other suggestions for unexpected environmental reads? |
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| Having said that, | Having said that, |
| @frankcottrell_b @sacilloyd #GdnEcoChat There's a huge resurgence in nature writing for adults at the moment - Macfarlane, Dee etc... | @frankcottrell_b @sacilloyd #GdnEcoChat There's a huge resurgence in nature writing for adults at the moment - Macfarlane, Dee etc... |
| And #GdnEcoChat is full to brimming with recommended reading for teens looking to get in the know! | And #GdnEcoChat is full to brimming with recommended reading for teens looking to get in the know! |
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| This is a very true point. The publishing scene 5 years ago looked very different for cli-fi. Can it all be down to the recession or is something else going on? How can we begin to bring things back round? The next 5 years may well be make or break time – any longer and it could be too late. | This is a very true point. The publishing scene 5 years ago looked very different for cli-fi. Can it all be down to the recession or is something else going on? How can we begin to bring things back round? The next 5 years may well be make or break time – any longer and it could be too late. |
| @frankcottrell_b @sacilloyd #GdnEcoChat Perhaps things will come full circle and we're just ahead of the trend :-) | @frankcottrell_b @sacilloyd #GdnEcoChat Perhaps things will come full circle and we're just ahead of the trend :-) |
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| Authors Sarah Holding and Tony Bradman have been having a very interesting conversation about how to engage really young kids. | Authors Sarah Holding and Tony Bradman have been having a very interesting conversation about how to engage really young kids. |
| @lisadevaney Running #clifi workshops in schools gets school children really thinking hard about their futures #GdnEcoChat | @lisadevaney Running #clifi workshops in schools gets school children really thinking hard about their futures #GdnEcoChat |
| @tbradman @lisadevaney #GdnEcoChat and it's produced a culture of CLIMATE SILENCE as this article suggested: http://t.co/qUuS5HbLfK | @tbradman @lisadevaney #GdnEcoChat and it's produced a culture of CLIMATE SILENCE as this article suggested: http://t.co/qUuS5HbLfK |
| @SeaHolding @lisadevaney Interesting - but for most people - especially the poor - it's what's in front of you that's important #GdnEcoChat | @SeaHolding @lisadevaney Interesting - but for most people - especially the poor - it's what's in front of you that's important #GdnEcoChat |
| The risk is we won’t be able to see the woods for the trees (or what’s left of them anyway...) | The risk is we won’t be able to see the woods for the trees (or what’s left of them anyway...) |
| 7.39pm BST | 7.39pm BST |
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| Perhaps we just need to ask the hard questions and demand the hard answers... | Perhaps we just need to ask the hard questions and demand the hard answers... |
| So what part do political parties play in this? It's not just us and energy companies! #GdnEcoChat @GdnChildrensBks https://t.co/jGXA336MuE | So what part do political parties play in this? It's not just us and energy companies! #GdnEcoChat @GdnChildrensBks https://t.co/jGXA336MuE |
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| There’s a little of agreement on here – but while we all know instinctively that climate change is very real, happening right now, and a massive problem, we’re dancing around the edges of what precisely to DO about it. Maybe (in an election year, no less), that’s enough? | There’s a little of agreement on here – but while we all know instinctively that climate change is very real, happening right now, and a massive problem, we’re dancing around the edges of what precisely to DO about it. Maybe (in an election year, no less), that’s enough? |
| @HaulwenN @VashtiHardy1 @hellopipski snap! Just said that. Important to simply ask questions rather than give answers. #GdnEcoChat | @HaulwenN @VashtiHardy1 @hellopipski snap! Just said that. Important to simply ask questions rather than give answers. #GdnEcoChat |
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| This would be a tough one – where to start? | This would be a tough one – where to start? |
| @SwapnaHaddow @lockwoodwriter @GdnChildrensBks my eldest (4) asked me what is climate change? I found it v difficult to answer! #GdnEcoChat | @SwapnaHaddow @lockwoodwriter @GdnChildrensBks my eldest (4) asked me what is climate change? I found it v difficult to answer! #GdnEcoChat |
| Any takers? | Any takers? |
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| 19:34 | 19:34 |
| Excitement over, Sarah Crossnan has an unequivocal answer to our previous question: | Excitement over, Sarah Crossnan has an unequivocal answer to our previous question: |
| .@GdnChildrensBks argh!! Fracking is BAD BAD BAD!!! Can cause terrible pollution for local area/water. #GdnEcoChat | .@GdnChildrensBks argh!! Fracking is BAD BAD BAD!!! Can cause terrible pollution for local area/water. #GdnEcoChat |
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| Shock! Horrow! Swoon! A last minute guest entry! | Shock! Horrow! Swoon! A last minute guest entry! |
| We really are hitting the big time now! | We really are hitting the big time now! |
| Welcoming @HelenSkelton to #GdnEcoChat ! | Welcoming @HelenSkelton to #GdnEcoChat ! |
| 7.31pm BST | 7.31pm BST |
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| Great question from Children’s Books site member – we’re up to the minute here! | Great question from Children’s Books site member – we’re up to the minute here! |
| Question from ElsaSkelter: what about fracking? Good or bad? And how long before it's in a cli-fi book? #GdnEcoChat | Question from ElsaSkelter: what about fracking? Good or bad? And how long before it's in a cli-fi book? #GdnEcoChat |
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| There’s a big debate amongst the young at heart here about the threats of climate change vs. nuclear fallout. Worrying about the environment isn’t a new thing, nor are planetary pressures. The question is, can we ever see climate change as an immediate threat in the way the Cold War was? That may well be the biggest issue facing us today. | There’s a big debate amongst the young at heart here about the threats of climate change vs. nuclear fallout. Worrying about the environment isn’t a new thing, nor are planetary pressures. The question is, can we ever see climate change as an immediate threat in the way the Cold War was? That may well be the biggest issue facing us today. |
| @EmilyDrabs Yes! I lived in the middle of the city - was always worried the countryside would vanish before I got to see it #GdnEcoChat | @EmilyDrabs Yes! I lived in the middle of the city - was always worried the countryside would vanish before I got to see it #GdnEcoChat |
| @EmilyDrabs But while we were worrying about nukes we let a kind of slow explosion wreck the planet! #GdnEcoChat | @EmilyDrabs But while we were worrying about nukes we let a kind of slow explosion wreck the planet! #GdnEcoChat |
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| We are so philosophical this evening! | We are so philosophical this evening! |
| Good fiction is a thought experiment - it's time we started to experiment with optimism. #GdnEcoChat | Good fiction is a thought experiment - it's time we started to experiment with optimism. #GdnEcoChat |
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| No we’ve no idea what it means either... | No we’ve no idea what it means either... |
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| And, frankly, no webchat is replete without a liberal dose of French theoretic anthropology: | And, frankly, no webchat is replete without a liberal dose of French theoretic anthropology: |
| #GdnEcoChat Bruno Latour... says we've got 2 move on from twin errors of wanting 2 b free of nature & on other hand pining for mythical past | #GdnEcoChat Bruno Latour... says we've got 2 move on from twin errors of wanting 2 b free of nature & on other hand pining for mythical past |
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| And we have to be realistic, there’s plenty beyond the world of books that needs doing: | And we have to be realistic, there’s plenty beyond the world of books that needs doing: |
| @tbradman @SeaHolding I do wonder if government regulation limiting the amount of airplane trips we all take would help. #GdnEcoChat | @tbradman @SeaHolding I do wonder if government regulation limiting the amount of airplane trips we all take would help. #GdnEcoChat |
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| This is very reassuring for all of us here tonight: indeed, this could be our entire raison d’etre: | This is very reassuring for all of us here tonight: indeed, this could be our entire raison d’etre: |
| #GdnEcoChat I think fiction has a VITAL role to play in imagining a better world, always. @thurrockjosh @frankcottrell_b @GdnChildrensBks | #GdnEcoChat I think fiction has a VITAL role to play in imagining a better world, always. @thurrockjosh @frankcottrell_b @GdnChildrensBks |
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| While SF Said and Kate Kelly share holiday snaps, the Big Questions keep on rolling in. Here’s one from TheBookAddictedGirl, replete with an answer: | While SF Said and Kate Kelly share holiday snaps, the Big Questions keep on rolling in. Here’s one from TheBookAddictedGirl, replete with an answer: |
| @BookAddictdGirl #GdnEcoChat Measure energy use with a smart meter, use a ecological footprint calculator like here: http://t.co/wJfgmSJtIW | @BookAddictdGirl #GdnEcoChat Measure energy use with a smart meter, use a ecological footprint calculator like here: http://t.co/wJfgmSJtIW |
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| It’s not just climate change that we’re talking about here, however. There are so many more problems confronting our ecosystems. | It’s not just climate change that we’re talking about here, however. There are so many more problems confronting our ecosystems. |
| How can we possible take on everything at once? | How can we possible take on everything at once? |