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Australia would take back dual nationals if citizenship stripped elsewhere – politics live Australia would take back dual nationals if citizenship stripped elsewhere – politics live
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10.32am AEST01:32
ABC chief Mark Scott is up now in front of senate estimates hearings.
10.31am AEST01:31
Here is a bit more of immigration minister Peter Dutton on how to decide who is a terrorist risk. He is responding to a question on Khaled Sharrouf on AM.
This is why it’s important for there to be a ministerial discretion as opposed to an operation of law, so that if there was a blackletter provision which said that every(one) coming back including children would face revocation of their citizenship, I think that would be something people would want to debate.
What we have said here and again it operates in the UK, there is the ability for ministers to assess individually the cases that come before them. I am not going to comment individually on this matter (Sharrouf family) but people face very serious consequence s when they return to this country if they have broken Australian law and if they’re in prescribed areas and don’t have a reason for being there. If they’ve been involved in terrorist activities they will face the full force of the law when they return to Australia.
10.17am AEST01:17
Fiona Nash, get a backbone.
Host of the Sunrise program David Koch has resigned as Chairman of the Organ and Tissue Authority Advisory Council in protest after he was not informed of a government review.
He has delivered a scathing editorial on a “rich lobby group”, pressuring the assistant health minister Fiona Nash in relation to organ donation.
Fiona Nash, get a backbone. You didn’t even ring me...‘This leaves me no choice but to resign from the position and actively counter the tripe dished up by rich lobbyists.
10.04am AEST01:0410.04am AEST01:04
What do you get for 7c? 5cWhat do you get for 7c? 5c
In other news...In other news...
Best story in today's papers. It costs 7c to make a 5c piece @theheraldsun pic.twitter.com/U37b958uA3Best story in today's papers. It costs 7c to make a 5c piece @theheraldsun pic.twitter.com/U37b958uA3
9.57am AEST00:579.57am AEST00:57
Next cab off the rank is the National Health Amendment (Pharmaceutical Benefits) Bill 2015 via health minister Sussan Ley. She will be speaking to media at 1.30pm today to explain the the deal which governs 5,000 community pharmacies and how they dispense PBS medicines and deliver pharmacy programs and services.Next cab off the rank is the National Health Amendment (Pharmaceutical Benefits) Bill 2015 via health minister Sussan Ley. She will be speaking to media at 1.30pm today to explain the the deal which governs 5,000 community pharmacies and how they dispense PBS medicines and deliver pharmacy programs and services.
It’s worth $19bn.It’s worth $19bn.
The government has been negotiating with the Pharmacy Guild – one of Canberra’s most powerful lobby groups – over the shape of the next community pharmacy agreement.The government has been negotiating with the Pharmacy Guild – one of Canberra’s most powerful lobby groups – over the shape of the next community pharmacy agreement.
The fifth such agreement, which expires at the end of June, was worth $15.7bn over five years. In March the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) warned of “persistent shortcomings” in the Department of Health’s record keeping during negotiations on the fifth agreement signed in 2010, including a failure to keep formal records of its meetings with the Pharmacy Guild.The fifth such agreement, which expires at the end of June, was worth $15.7bn over five years. In March the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) warned of “persistent shortcomings” in the Department of Health’s record keeping during negotiations on the fifth agreement signed in 2010, including a failure to keep formal records of its meetings with the Pharmacy Guild.
9.35am AEST00:359.35am AEST00:35
We have had a few lighter moments in the political tsunami this morning.We have had a few lighter moments in the political tsunami this morning.
Labor’s Ed Husic and assistant treasurer Josh Frydenberg are friends across the divide and they are sparring partners on Sky. Mike Bowers caught them in the corridors of glower. Husic saw Bowers’ lens and did what he does so well - hammed it up.Labor’s Ed Husic and assistant treasurer Josh Frydenberg are friends across the divide and they are sparring partners on Sky. Mike Bowers caught them in the corridors of glower. Husic saw Bowers’ lens and did what he does so well - hammed it up.
9.30am AEST00:309.30am AEST00:30
Greg Hunt comes to the contentious use of native wood waste, which has been included as an eligible energy source as a way to meet the renewable energy target.Greg Hunt comes to the contentious use of native wood waste, which has been included as an eligible energy source as a way to meet the renewable energy target.
He says the bill reinstates native forest wood waste on the same conditions as were previously in place under Labor. It contains safeguards to ensure wood waste is harvested in a responsible way.He says the bill reinstates native forest wood waste on the same conditions as were previously in place under Labor. It contains safeguards to ensure wood waste is harvested in a responsible way.
Hunt says that provision has been made because there’s no evidence the practice is unsustainable.Hunt says that provision has been made because there’s no evidence the practice is unsustainable.
This is about use of wood waste, its not about cutting down biomass to burn.This is about use of wood waste, its not about cutting down biomass to burn.
9.20am AEST00:209.20am AEST00:20
Bill to cut the Renewable Energy Target introducedBill to cut the Renewable Energy Target introduced
Environment minister Greg Hunt is introducing the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Amendment Bill 2015.Environment minister Greg Hunt is introducing the Renewable Energy (Electricity) Amendment Bill 2015.
The bill adjusts the Renewable Energy Target from 41,000 gigawatt hours of energy to be delivered from renewable sources by 2020 to 33000 gigawatt hours in the same time.The bill adjusts the Renewable Energy Target from 41,000 gigawatt hours of energy to be delivered from renewable sources by 2020 to 33000 gigawatt hours in the same time.
It will be maintained at 33,000 per annum 2021-2030.It will be maintained at 33,000 per annum 2021-2030.
The new target “is achievable”.The new target “is achievable”.
Lenore Taylor has written on this many times, but this was her most recent story.Lenore Taylor has written on this many times, but this was her most recent story.
9.11am AEST00:119.11am AEST00:11
Medical Research Future Fund comes to parliamentMedical Research Future Fund comes to parliament
Joe Hockey has just introduced the Medical Research Future Fund Bill 2015 into the lower house.Joe Hockey has just introduced the Medical Research Future Fund Bill 2015 into the lower house.
The treasurer is talking about Australia’s excellent record on medical advances and this funding is all about maintaining that record.The treasurer is talking about Australia’s excellent record on medical advances and this funding is all about maintaining that record.
He also mentions the late Matt Price, the press gallery journalist at the Oz who passed away of brain cancer during the 2007 election. “Everyone at the time” said something needed to be done.He also mentions the late Matt Price, the press gallery journalist at the Oz who passed away of brain cancer during the 2007 election. “Everyone at the time” said something needed to be done.
That’s one of the things to come out of this legislation.That’s one of the things to come out of this legislation.
9.05am AEST00:059.05am AEST00:05
Labor on citizenship: We kinda like it but we might notLabor on citizenship: We kinda like it but we might not
Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
Opposition leader Bill Shorten agrees with the stripping of dual citizenship in principle, but wants to see the legislation.Opposition leader Bill Shorten agrees with the stripping of dual citizenship in principle, but wants to see the legislation.
I don’t believe that if you’re a dual citizen and you’re fighting for a terrorist organisation you should automatically assume that you can have the rights of Australian citizenship. But let’s work through the detail.I don’t believe that if you’re a dual citizen and you’re fighting for a terrorist organisation you should automatically assume that you can have the rights of Australian citizenship. But let’s work through the detail.
He was less forthcoming on the proposal to strip sole citizens of their Australian nationality where they can apply for other citizenship, saying there is an important role for courts in interpreting the laws.He was less forthcoming on the proposal to strip sole citizens of their Australian nationality where they can apply for other citizenship, saying there is an important role for courts in interpreting the laws.
9.00am AEST00:009.00am AEST00:00
Just so you know the nature of plate-spinning job here at #politicslive, we also have today:Just so you know the nature of plate-spinning job here at #politicslive, we also have today:
It’s all coming. Strap yourself in.It’s all coming. Strap yourself in.
8.52am AEST23:528.52am AEST23:52
Marriage equality is also under discussion after Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek have brought forward a bill to use the momentum of the Irish referendum.Marriage equality is also under discussion after Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek have brought forward a bill to use the momentum of the Irish referendum.
Shorten is asked why the sudden sense of urgency around the debate, given there have been private members bills coming through the parliament for the past few years.Shorten is asked why the sudden sense of urgency around the debate, given there have been private members bills coming through the parliament for the past few years.
I voted for the legislation back in 2012 and last year I advised the Australian Christian Lobby at their forum that I believe it was entirely possible for someone of Christian views to also support marriage equality. There’s no doubt, though, that the Irish referendum on the weekend has again renewed debate in Australia and my view is that we should grab the opportunity to have the parliament introduce marriage equality and legalise it in Australia.I voted for the legislation back in 2012 and last year I advised the Australian Christian Lobby at their forum that I believe it was entirely possible for someone of Christian views to also support marriage equality. There’s no doubt, though, that the Irish referendum on the weekend has again renewed debate in Australia and my view is that we should grab the opportunity to have the parliament introduce marriage equality and legalise it in Australia.
The prime minister was also asked, including the call from Alan Jones for marriage equality. Abbott noted Jones was a friend, whom he had known for 30 years, but repeated his line about the ability of people to have different views. Like his own family, for example. But then swung off to his small business policy, which is developing into a habit.The prime minister was also asked, including the call from Alan Jones for marriage equality. Abbott noted Jones was a friend, whom he had known for 30 years, but repeated his line about the ability of people to have different views. Like his own family, for example. But then swung off to his small business policy, which is developing into a habit.
I’m sure at that time we’d have a very full and frank and candid and decent debate inside the party room but I do have to say that my absolute priority, the government’s absolute priority right now and for the next few weeks will be helping small business.I’m sure at that time we’d have a very full and frank and candid and decent debate inside the party room but I do have to say that my absolute priority, the government’s absolute priority right now and for the next few weeks will be helping small business.
8.37am AEST23:378.37am AEST23:37
Abbott: You don't get off scot free because you say I've seen the error of my waysAbbott: You don't get off scot free because you say I've seen the error of my ways
Tony Abbott is asked about the possibility of allowing foreign fighters back into the country for de-radicalization programs.Tony Abbott is asked about the possibility of allowing foreign fighters back into the country for de-radicalization programs.
Q: If there’s an opportunity to use their experience for preventing others from following that path, though, isn’t that something worth considering?Q: If there’s an opportunity to use their experience for preventing others from following that path, though, isn’t that something worth considering?
I’m absolutely delighted when a criminal comes out of jail, reformed and rehabilitated for that criminal or former criminal to go and spread a message of obeying the law to others who might be tempted to disobey the law. But I’m afraid you don’t get off scot-free just because you say “I’ve seen the error of my ways.” If you commit serious crimes you should face serious punishment and as far as I’m concerned that will always be the case.I’m absolutely delighted when a criminal comes out of jail, reformed and rehabilitated for that criminal or former criminal to go and spread a message of obeying the law to others who might be tempted to disobey the law. But I’m afraid you don’t get off scot-free just because you say “I’ve seen the error of my ways.” If you commit serious crimes you should face serious punishment and as far as I’m concerned that will always be the case.
8.32am AEST23:328.32am AEST23:32
Tony Abbott was asked about the return of Khaled Sharrouf’s wife Tara Nettleton and their five children.Tony Abbott was asked about the return of Khaled Sharrouf’s wife Tara Nettleton and their five children.
We’ve seen the beheadings, the crucifixions, the mass executions, the sexual slavery and people who are involved in that are doing evil things,evil things and criminal things and if criminals come within the reach of our law, whether they’re male or female, they will face the full severity of our law. That’s what the Australian public expect. Crime will be punished.We’ve seen the beheadings, the crucifixions, the mass executions, the sexual slavery and people who are involved in that are doing evil things,evil things and criminal things and if criminals come within the reach of our law, whether they’re male or female, they will face the full severity of our law. That’s what the Australian public expect. Crime will be punished.
8.27am AEST23:278.27am AEST23:27
Tony Abbott was asked about Sharrouf’s children, given one of them appeared to have been “radicalised”, given he was holding a severed head. The kid was seven.Tony Abbott was asked about Sharrouf’s children, given one of them appeared to have been “radicalised”, given he was holding a severed head. The kid was seven.
Abbott: the children ...will be dealt with in the same way that the children of criminals are normally dealt with. http://t.co/J8Emt0QyHgAbbott: the children ...will be dealt with in the same way that the children of criminals are normally dealt with. http://t.co/J8Emt0QyHg
8.21am AEST23:218.21am AEST23:21
Tony Abbott talking about Khaled Sharrouf’s family when a small business person intervenes, chiding the media for asking questions about national security. Abbott is at a small business function.Tony Abbott talking about Khaled Sharrouf’s family when a small business person intervenes, chiding the media for asking questions about national security. Abbott is at a small business function.
(It’s going to be one of those days.)(It’s going to be one of those days.)
Abbott notes the man’s point, delivering a neat combination on the importance of small business providing economic security, “which is just as important as economic security”.Abbott notes the man’s point, delivering a neat combination on the importance of small business providing economic security, “which is just as important as economic security”.
And then finishes up the press conference without answering any more details about the citizenship laws.And then finishes up the press conference without answering any more details about the citizenship laws.
I should say he answered a fair few questions before that while I was publishing. I will bring to you shortly.I should say he answered a fair few questions before that while I was publishing. I will bring to you shortly.
8.15am AEST23:158.15am AEST23:15
Morning politics: No one will be left stateless, says DuttonMorning politics: No one will be left stateless, says Dutton
It’s a difficult day when you can’t get through the corridor to the office for a government minister and media scrum.It’s a difficult day when you can’t get through the corridor to the office for a government minister and media scrum.
The keeper of the message this morning is Peter Dutton. There are many questions for the immigration minister about the proposed citizenship laws and remember, no details of the laws - like a bill - have been released.The keeper of the message this morning is Peter Dutton. There are many questions for the immigration minister about the proposed citizenship laws and remember, no details of the laws - like a bill - have been released.
As far as we know, the new laws involve stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship at the minister’s discretion, if the government suspects the person has been involved in terrorism. The minister said given the difficulty of getting evidence in overseas war-torn countries, his decision would be informed by Asio. The Abbott government has committed to this measure.As far as we know, the new laws involve stripping dual nationals of their Australian citizenship at the minister’s discretion, if the government suspects the person has been involved in terrorism. The minister said given the difficulty of getting evidence in overseas war-torn countries, his decision would be informed by Asio. The Abbott government has committed to this measure.
A second element, reflecting the UK laws, involves stripping Australians of their citizenship if they have the option to a second citizenship. This measure, which caused uproar in the cabinet discussion, will be considered in the discussion paper. Philip Ruddock was appointed as captain of that discussion yesterday, with Concetta Fierravanti-Wells.A second element, reflecting the UK laws, involves stripping Australians of their citizenship if they have the option to a second citizenship. This measure, which caused uproar in the cabinet discussion, will be considered in the discussion paper. Philip Ruddock was appointed as captain of that discussion yesterday, with Concetta Fierravanti-Wells.
The key points from the government are these:The key points from the government are these:
Thanks to Shalailah Medhora for this little snippet from Dutton on AM:Thanks to Shalailah Medhora for this little snippet from Dutton on AM:
Q: If the boot was on the other foot, would we take them back?Q: If the boot was on the other foot, would we take them back?
Yes we would if they were an Australian citizen. That’s the constitutional obligation.”Yes we would if they were an Australian citizen. That’s the constitutional obligation.”
“They would be rendered stateless, which we are not going to allow.”“They would be rendered stateless, which we are not going to allow.”
Already, the example delivered for debate through The Age is the case of Khaled Sharrouf and his wife and five children. This is the case where one of the children was pictured holding a severed head in the national daily.Already, the example delivered for debate through The Age is the case of Khaled Sharrouf and his wife and five children. This is the case where one of the children was pictured holding a severed head in the national daily.
Marriage equality is also front and centre today. Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek have been out already. Tony Abbott is taking questions now. My head is spinning.Marriage equality is also front and centre today. Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek have been out already. Tony Abbott is taking questions now. My head is spinning.
However I will try to stay calm and deliver all the political news. Join me @gabriellechan and @mpbowers for the parliamentary sitting day.However I will try to stay calm and deliver all the political news. Join me @gabriellechan and @mpbowers for the parliamentary sitting day.