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MSPs to vote on Assisted Suicide Scotland bill MSPs reject Assisted Suicide Scotland Bill
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MSPs are debating the Assisted Suicide Scotland Bill ahead a vote on the legislation at Holyrood. MSPs have rejected the Assisted Suicide Scotland Bill by 82 votes to 36 following a debate at Holyrood.
The bill, which would allow those with terminal illnesses to seek the help of a doctor to end their own life, could fail if it does not secure enough votes at this stage. The bill would have allowed those with terminal illnesses to seek the help of a doctor to end their own life.
Supporters said the plan had widespread public backing but critics have argued a change in the law would be unethical. Supporters said the plan had widespread public backing but critics argued a change in the law would be unethical.
MSPs will be given a free vote on the Assisted Suicide Bill. MSPs were given a free vote. The Scottish government did not support changing the law.
But the Scottish government does not support changing the law. The Assisted Suicide Bill was originally brought forward by the late independent MSP Margo MacDonald, who died last year after a long battle with Parkinson's disease.
Analysis by Glenn Campbell, political correspondent It was taken up by Green MSP Patrick Harvie, who said he gave a commitment to Ms MacDonald to present this bill as best he could to parliament.
This is the second time the Scottish Parliament has been asked to decide on assisted suicide.
The late MSP Margo MacDonald tried unsuccessfully to change the law five years ago.
Her End of Life Assistance Bill was rejected by 85 votes for to 16 against, with two abstentions.
Her second attempt, the Assisted Suicide Bill, is being taken forward in her memory by the Green MSP Patrick Harvie.
Holyrood's health committee found "significant flaws" with this legislation but Mr Harvie has said it can be improved if MSPs back the bill in principle.
Opinion polls tend to suggest that the public want terminally ill people to be able to seek medical help to end their lives.
But parliament is unlikely to support the proposals before it today.
The proposed legislation says the final act must be carried out by the person seeking to end their own life.
It was originally brought forward by the late independent MSP Margo MacDonald, who died last year after a long battle with Parkinson's disease.
It is now being championed by Green MSP Patrick Harvie, who said he gave a commitment to Ms MacDonald to present this bill as best he could to parliament.
A Holyrood committee recently concluded that the bill contained "significant flaws" and opposed its general principles, but said the full parliament should decide whether or not to throw out the proposed legislation.A Holyrood committee recently concluded that the bill contained "significant flaws" and opposed its general principles, but said the full parliament should decide whether or not to throw out the proposed legislation.
Opening the debate, Mr Harvie urged MSPs who support the general principles of the bill to vote for it through at Stage 1, and allow the debate around the details to continue.Opening the debate, Mr Harvie urged MSPs who support the general principles of the bill to vote for it through at Stage 1, and allow the debate around the details to continue.
He said: "I think the case has been made very clear that a change in the law has been justified.He said: "I think the case has been made very clear that a change in the law has been justified.
"Whatever view members take of the detailed operation of this legislation were we to pass it, I hope that all members who understand the basic principle, who accept the idea that human beings have the right to make a decision in circumstances such as a terminal or life-shortening illness, I hope that members will give this bill the opportunity to come forward to the next stage, and then we can begin to debate the amendments that come forward.""Whatever view members take of the detailed operation of this legislation were we to pass it, I hope that all members who understand the basic principle, who accept the idea that human beings have the right to make a decision in circumstances such as a terminal or life-shortening illness, I hope that members will give this bill the opportunity to come forward to the next stage, and then we can begin to debate the amendments that come forward."
Scottish health secretary Shona Robison told MSPs: "The government believes that the current law is clear, and it is not lawful to assist someone to commit suicide, and the government has no plans to change that."Scottish health secretary Shona Robison told MSPs: "The government believes that the current law is clear, and it is not lawful to assist someone to commit suicide, and the government has no plans to change that."
Despite that, she said, Scottish government ministers would be able to vote "according to their conscience", before adding that she would not be backing the legislation.Despite that, she said, Scottish government ministers would be able to vote "according to their conscience", before adding that she would not be backing the legislation.
Conservative MSP Dr Nanette Milne, a former anaesthetist and cancer researcher who sits on Holyrood's Health Committee, also said she would not be supporting the bill.Conservative MSP Dr Nanette Milne, a former anaesthetist and cancer researcher who sits on Holyrood's Health Committee, also said she would not be supporting the bill.
She said: "Personally, as a former health professional, the idea of actively and deliberately hastening death by assisting someone to die is deeply disturbing for me. And I share the view of many professional colleagues that to legislate for this would risk undermining patient trust in doctors and medical advice."She said: "Personally, as a former health professional, the idea of actively and deliberately hastening death by assisting someone to die is deeply disturbing for me. And I share the view of many professional colleagues that to legislate for this would risk undermining patient trust in doctors and medical advice."
But Liberal Democrat MSP Liam McArthur said, while the bill was not perfect, he would support its general principles.But Liberal Democrat MSP Liam McArthur said, while the bill was not perfect, he would support its general principles.
He said: "Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the status quo is no longer tenable, that change is necessary, that finding ways of allowing individuals dignity in death as in life is now essential.He said: "Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the status quo is no longer tenable, that change is necessary, that finding ways of allowing individuals dignity in death as in life is now essential.
"It's a conclusion that growing numbers of people in Scotland have reached, often I suspect based on direct experience of what has happened to a family member or good friend."It's a conclusion that growing numbers of people in Scotland have reached, often I suspect based on direct experience of what has happened to a family member or good friend.
"The right to life is not the same as a duty to live. This is about providing dignity, respect and choice at the end of life.""The right to life is not the same as a duty to live. This is about providing dignity, respect and choice at the end of life."
Assisted suicide - the legal positionAssisted suicide - the legal position
It is not illegal to attempt suicide in Scotland, but helping someone take their own life could lead to prosecution.It is not illegal to attempt suicide in Scotland, but helping someone take their own life could lead to prosecution.
In England and Wales, the Suicide Act 1961 makes it an offence to encourage or assist a suicide or a suicide attempt, which is almost identical to the situation in Northern Ireland.In England and Wales, the Suicide Act 1961 makes it an offence to encourage or assist a suicide or a suicide attempt, which is almost identical to the situation in Northern Ireland.
The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has to approve any assisted suicide court action in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has to approve any assisted suicide court action in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
In 2010, Keir Starmer, then the DPP, issued guidance that made it clear that family or friends who travelled with a loved one to the Swiss suicide group Dignitas would not risk prosecution.In 2010, Keir Starmer, then the DPP, issued guidance that made it clear that family or friends who travelled with a loved one to the Swiss suicide group Dignitas would not risk prosecution.
The guidelines were the result of a case brought by Debbie Purdy, a terminally ill woman, who in 2009 won a legal ruling requiring the DPP to set out whether her husband would be committing an offence if he accompanied her to Dignitas to end her life.The guidelines were the result of a case brought by Debbie Purdy, a terminally ill woman, who in 2009 won a legal ruling requiring the DPP to set out whether her husband would be committing an offence if he accompanied her to Dignitas to end her life.
Scotland's prosecution service, the Crown Office, has issued no such guidance.Scotland's prosecution service, the Crown Office, has issued no such guidance.
Assisted suicide is legal in Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Belgium as well as Switzerland.Assisted suicide is legal in Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Belgium as well as Switzerland.
Campaigners who back the bill, including representatives of the My Life, My Death, My Choice campaign, earlier gathered outside the Scottish Parliament to urge MSPs to support the general principles of the legislation. Campaigners who backed the bill, including representatives of the My Life, My Death, My Choice campaign, earlier gathered outside the Scottish Parliament to urge MSPs to support the general principles of the legislation.
But a number of organisations, including the Law Society of Scotland, Church of Scotland, Council of Imams Scotland and the Christian charity Care for Scotland, have raised objections. But a number of organisations, including the Law Society of Scotland, Church of Scotland, Council of Imams Scotland and the Christian charity Care for Scotland, raised objections.
Alison Britton, convener of the Law Society's health and medical law committee, said she was concerned the law lacked clarity.Alison Britton, convener of the Law Society's health and medical law committee, said she was concerned the law lacked clarity.
She said: "We have said throughout the passage of this bill that legislation in this area needs to be absolutely clear and those seeking to end their lives, and those who assist them, need a robust and transparent process to be certain under which conditions it would be lawful for assistance to be provided.She said: "We have said throughout the passage of this bill that legislation in this area needs to be absolutely clear and those seeking to end their lives, and those who assist them, need a robust and transparent process to be certain under which conditions it would be lawful for assistance to be provided.
"We remain concerned over the lack of definition of the key terms, such as "assistance" and "life-shortening" and the functions of the licensed facilitator are still uncertain."We remain concerned over the lack of definition of the key terms, such as "assistance" and "life-shortening" and the functions of the licensed facilitator are still uncertain.
"Lack of such clarity leads to ambiguity and leaves the legislation open to interpretation.""Lack of such clarity leads to ambiguity and leaves the legislation open to interpretation."
And the Church of Scotland urged MSPs to do more to improve end-of-life care instead of backing the bill.And the Church of Scotland urged MSPs to do more to improve end-of-life care instead of backing the bill.
In a letter, Rev Sally Foster-Fulton, convenor of the Kirk's Church and Society Council, wrote: "We believe that this bill represents much more than simply a tinkering with the law, breaching as it does the societal prohibition on the taking of human life.In a letter, Rev Sally Foster-Fulton, convenor of the Kirk's Church and Society Council, wrote: "We believe that this bill represents much more than simply a tinkering with the law, breaching as it does the societal prohibition on the taking of human life.
"It carries implications for the whole of society, not just for those who will seek assisted death, and for attitudes to many aspects of health and social care.""It carries implications for the whole of society, not just for those who will seek assisted death, and for attitudes to many aspects of health and social care."
Assisted Suicide Bill - key measures
You can watch the full debate on Democracy Live from 14:40.