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| Australian jihadis reported killed as citizenship laws go to party room – politics live | Australian jihadis reported killed as citizenship laws go to party room – politics live |
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| 8.48am AEST23:48 | |
| Twitter corro The Matt Hatter is out of the blocks early, already flagging the flag count for any citizenship announcement. | |
| @gabriellechan A good & hearty hale fellow well met to you. Today's tip - put your $ on 8 flags in the courtyard. pic.twitter.com/zGTO5iSJKq | |
| 8.43am AEST23:43 | |
| Very nice Mr Bowers. | |
| 8.34am AEST23:34 | |
| And Julie Bishop also addressed the citizenship legislation. She thinks the work has now been done to address the concerns. Of course, the concerns raised were not so much in the party room as the cabinet. In fact Dan Tehan presented a petition of backbenchers to support Tony Abbott going even further to strip citizenship from Australians who merely had an option of dual citizenship. That option was a bit of a red rag to a bull in the cabinet room and was shunted off to the discussion paper. | |
| It’s all good now though, says Bishop. She is happy with the legislation. | |
| The draft legislation is yet to be presented to the party room but I’m confident that the government has addressed the concerns that were raised in the last couple of - weeks. We’ve considered a number of options and I believe we’ve come up with an appropriate draft piece of legislation. | |
| 8.26am AEST23:26 | 8.26am AEST23:26 |
| In the past month, reports surfaced that Khaled Sharrouf’s family was trying to get back to Australia. His wife Tara Nettleton and their five children have requested a return to Australia. | In the past month, reports surfaced that Khaled Sharrouf’s family was trying to get back to Australia. His wife Tara Nettleton and their five children have requested a return to Australia. |
| Last month Tony Abbott did not countenance their return. At the same time, immigration minister Peter Dutton said they would face “serious consequences” when they returned. (Though whether they can now return is in question.) | Last month Tony Abbott did not countenance their return. At the same time, immigration minister Peter Dutton said they would face “serious consequences” when they returned. (Though whether they can now return is in question.) |
| The issue for Nettleton is that she has travelled to a proscribed area under the foreign fighters laws, which carry a penalty of up to 10 years. | The issue for Nettleton is that she has travelled to a proscribed area under the foreign fighters laws, which carry a penalty of up to 10 years. |
| Here is an exchange between AM presenter Michael Brissenden and Peter Dutton on May 27. | Here is an exchange between AM presenter Michael Brissenden and Peter Dutton on May 27. |
| And if they’re in proscribed areas and they don’t have a reason for being there, if they’ve been involved in supporting terrorists or involved in activities directly themselves, they will face the full force of the law when they return to Australia. | And if they’re in proscribed areas and they don’t have a reason for being there, if they’ve been involved in supporting terrorists or involved in activities directly themselves, they will face the full force of the law when they return to Australia. |
| BRISSENDEN: Okay, and the children? | BRISSENDEN: Okay, and the children? |
| Well the children, as I say, it depends on the circumstance, the ages of the children. If they’re infants, for example, then they would be in state care, as we’ve seen with some people who have decided to abandon their children and go off and fight in the name of ISIL. So those arrangements would operate as they would with any family where parents have abandoned their children or not acting in the best interests of their children. | Well the children, as I say, it depends on the circumstance, the ages of the children. If they’re infants, for example, then they would be in state care, as we’ve seen with some people who have decided to abandon their children and go off and fight in the name of ISIL. So those arrangements would operate as they would with any family where parents have abandoned their children or not acting in the best interests of their children. |
| This morning, Julie Bishop was not entering the debate. One thing at a time please. | This morning, Julie Bishop was not entering the debate. One thing at a time please. |
| These are details we’ll consider once the reports have been verified one way or another. The circumstances of the families will be considered once the reports have been verified. | These are details we’ll consider once the reports have been verified one way or another. The circumstances of the families will be considered once the reports have been verified. |
| I won’t go into the details of the family’s circumstances. We are aware of the family. We are aware of the fact that Mr Sharrouf, for example, used his son to hold up the severed head of a Syrian fighter, so it’s alleged, for the purposes of seeking to attract others to this brutal cause. | |
| Updated at 8.28am AEST | |
| 8.15am AEST23:15 | 8.15am AEST23:15 |
| Sharrouf and Elomar were relatively high profile fights in the Isis world. The photos of Sharrouf’s son holding the head of a soldier were published worldwide. Julie Bishop was asked about their pull. | Sharrouf and Elomar were relatively high profile fights in the Isis world. The photos of Sharrouf’s son holding the head of a soldier were published worldwide. Julie Bishop was asked about their pull. |
| We’ve had feedback from our intelligence agencies that they were being used as part of a recruitment campaign. Daesh has been using quite sophisticated online media techniques to recruit people and my message to young people in particular in Australia is that it is a crime to support or take up arms or fight with Daesh or other terrorist organisations and that you are putting your life in mortal danger if you travel to Iraq and Syria and you’re also adding to the misery and the suffering of the people of Iraq and Syria if you support Daesh and similar terrorist organisations. | We’ve had feedback from our intelligence agencies that they were being used as part of a recruitment campaign. Daesh has been using quite sophisticated online media techniques to recruit people and my message to young people in particular in Australia is that it is a crime to support or take up arms or fight with Daesh or other terrorist organisations and that you are putting your life in mortal danger if you travel to Iraq and Syria and you’re also adding to the misery and the suffering of the people of Iraq and Syria if you support Daesh and similar terrorist organisations. |
| 8.10am AEST23:10 | 8.10am AEST23:10 |
| Julie Bishop has been asked if the deaths of Sharrouf and Elomar will deter people from taking up arms with Isis or encourage others to join the cause. | Julie Bishop has been asked if the deaths of Sharrouf and Elomar will deter people from taking up arms with Isis or encourage others to join the cause. |
| These two men are not martyrs. They are criminal thugs who have been carrying out brutal terrorist attacks, putting people’s lives in danger. They boast of the brutality and violence they have been meting out to people, they boast of having sexual slaves. They are carry out terrorist activities and that’s why they’ve been listed as terrorists. | These two men are not martyrs. They are criminal thugs who have been carrying out brutal terrorist attacks, putting people’s lives in danger. They boast of the brutality and violence they have been meting out to people, they boast of having sexual slaves. They are carry out terrorist activities and that’s why they’ve been listed as terrorists. |
| 8.06am AEST23:06 | 8.06am AEST23:06 |
| Julie Bishop has confirmed that Sharrouf and Elomar had their passports cancelled already by the Australian government on the grounds they posed a risk to Australia. | Julie Bishop has confirmed that Sharrouf and Elomar had their passports cancelled already by the Australian government on the grounds they posed a risk to Australia. |
| Both men had been listed as terrorists under the UN Security Council resolution dealing with foreign terrorist fighters. But she says their deaths have been difficult to confirm because Australia has very little presence in Iraq on the ground. | Both men had been listed as terrorists under the UN Security Council resolution dealing with foreign terrorist fighters. But she says their deaths have been difficult to confirm because Australia has very little presence in Iraq on the ground. |
| It is very difficult for us because we have an embassy in Baghdad but we don’t have one in Damascus but of course, given the security situation in Iraq it’s difficult for our authorities to gain the kind of information that would be required to verify these reports that these men have been killed. | It is very difficult for us because we have an embassy in Baghdad but we don’t have one in Damascus but of course, given the security situation in Iraq it’s difficult for our authorities to gain the kind of information that would be required to verify these reports that these men have been killed. |
| 8.01am AEST23:01 | 8.01am AEST23:01 |
| Good morning blogans, | Good morning blogans, |
| On a crisp clear morning in Canberra, the magpies are chortling as the commonwealth cars stream into the building under the flag. | On a crisp clear morning in Canberra, the magpies are chortling as the commonwealth cars stream into the building under the flag. |
| And there will be a lot of flag waving today as the Coalition party room considers legislation that we can only assume was taken to the cabinet room last night. That legislation aims to strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorist activities. The test for involvement is the key here - whether by courts or ministerial discretion or both - and we will have to await the details. | And there will be a lot of flag waving today as the Coalition party room considers legislation that we can only assume was taken to the cabinet room last night. That legislation aims to strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are involved in terrorist activities. The test for involvement is the key here - whether by courts or ministerial discretion or both - and we will have to await the details. |
| You will remember the original proposal, by ministerial discretion alone, was rejected by members of cabinet in a spectacular leak that could have been transcribed by my former shorthand teacher, such was its accuracy. | You will remember the original proposal, by ministerial discretion alone, was rejected by members of cabinet in a spectacular leak that could have been transcribed by my former shorthand teacher, such was its accuracy. |
| Feeding into the party room political play is the news, released overnight, that Isis recruits Khaled Sharrouf and Mohammed Elomar were killed in the past week following fighting in Mosul. Foreign minister Julie Bishop confirmed there have been drone strikes in the past week but she cannot yet confirm the deaths of Elomar and Sharrouf. The latter was the individual that had pictures of his child holding the severed head of a Syrian fighter. | Feeding into the party room political play is the news, released overnight, that Isis recruits Khaled Sharrouf and Mohammed Elomar were killed in the past week following fighting in Mosul. Foreign minister Julie Bishop confirmed there have been drone strikes in the past week but she cannot yet confirm the deaths of Elomar and Sharrouf. The latter was the individual that had pictures of his child holding the severed head of a Syrian fighter. |
| So that news provides the backdrop for the debate that will ensue in the party room today. We shall have the news to you as soon as possible. Join us for all of this and more. Keep the conversation going below and on Twitter @gabriellechan and @mpbowers. | So that news provides the backdrop for the debate that will ensue in the party room today. We shall have the news to you as soon as possible. Join us for all of this and more. Keep the conversation going below and on Twitter @gabriellechan and @mpbowers. |