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Clinics manned by a single doctor should be replaced by one-stop health shops run by several GPs, health minister Lord Darzi has told the BBC.Clinics manned by a single doctor should be replaced by one-stop health shops run by several GPs, health minister Lord Darzi has told the BBC.
So-called 'polyclinics', which house GPs alongside medical services normally offered at hospitals, are better suited to patients' needs, Lord Darzi said.So-called 'polyclinics', which house GPs alongside medical services normally offered at hospitals, are better suited to patients' needs, Lord Darzi said.
He has proposed them for London and says they would work across England.He has proposed them for London and says they would work across England.
Public Health Minister Dawn Primarolo suggested the policy would only be applied to bigger GP practices.Public Health Minister Dawn Primarolo suggested the policy would only be applied to bigger GP practices.
But the British Medical Association says they will be wasteful and will undermine continuity of patient care.But the British Medical Association says they will be wasteful and will undermine continuity of patient care.
'Fantastic relationship''Fantastic relationship'
Lord Darzi told the BBC Breakfast programme that although "most patients love their GP" a change was coming.Lord Darzi told the BBC Breakfast programme that although "most patients love their GP" a change was coming.
He praised the "fantastic" relationship between doctors and their patients, but said it must be distinguished from modern practices, where there were now often several GPs working under the same roof.He praised the "fantastic" relationship between doctors and their patients, but said it must be distinguished from modern practices, where there were now often several GPs working under the same roof.
It's very important that whatever developments modern medicine brings, we don't lose that underlying personal relationship Peter Weaving GP Polyclinics - the future?It's very important that whatever developments modern medicine brings, we don't lose that underlying personal relationship Peter Weaving GP Polyclinics - the future?
He said: "I have no doubt in the future we are going to see a critical mass of general practitioners working together, rather than what we used to see in the past which were practices with a single-handed clinician."He said: "I have no doubt in the future we are going to see a critical mass of general practitioners working together, rather than what we used to see in the past which were practices with a single-handed clinician."
Ministers have already said they want to establish 150 polyclinics across England.Ministers have already said they want to establish 150 polyclinics across England.
'Cheapest bidder''Cheapest bidder'
But Richard Vautrey, deputy chairman of the British Medical Association's GP committee, accused the government of trying to impose a "London-centric" model on the whole country, when it was inappropriate for less populated areas.But Richard Vautrey, deputy chairman of the British Medical Association's GP committee, accused the government of trying to impose a "London-centric" model on the whole country, when it was inappropriate for less populated areas.
He said: "This is a government plan that is potentially going to waste hundreds of millions of pounds of scarce NHS resources, creating very large health centres that many areas of the country simply don't need or want."He said: "This is a government plan that is potentially going to waste hundreds of millions of pounds of scarce NHS resources, creating very large health centres that many areas of the country simply don't need or want."
What I believe patients want is to have a regular relationship with a GP and when they require more specialist treatment to go to hospital Dr Anthony Halperin, Patients AssociationWhat I believe patients want is to have a regular relationship with a GP and when they require more specialist treatment to go to hospital Dr Anthony Halperin, Patients Association
He also warned the government's proposals will bring competition for NHS work from large multinational private companies.He also warned the government's proposals will bring competition for NHS work from large multinational private companies.
"They are effectively going to be looking for the cheapest bidder, who is going to run these health centres," he added."They are effectively going to be looking for the cheapest bidder, who is going to run these health centres," he added.
Dr Anthony Halperin, chairman of the Patients Association, said he was not convinced by the idea of GPs and specialists working under the one roof.Dr Anthony Halperin, chairman of the Patients Association, said he was not convinced by the idea of GPs and specialists working under the one roof.
"What I believe patients want is to see their own GP, to have a regular relationship with a GP, and when they require further or more specialist treatment to go to a hospital," he said."What I believe patients want is to see their own GP, to have a regular relationship with a GP, and when they require further or more specialist treatment to go to a hospital," he said.
"What you are now doing is interposing a third layer of a polyclinic and I really don't see any advantage for it.""What you are now doing is interposing a third layer of a polyclinic and I really don't see any advantage for it."
Cradle to graveCradle to grave
Peter Weaving, a GP in Brampton, near Carlisle, said being a general practitioner in the UK and being able to treat generations of the same family was a "wonderful thing".Peter Weaving, a GP in Brampton, near Carlisle, said being a general practitioner in the UK and being able to treat generations of the same family was a "wonderful thing".
"I have been in practice for nearly 25 years," he said. "I have looked after patients from when they were babies to when they've grown up, and they've brought their babies to me."I have been in practice for nearly 25 years," he said. "I have looked after patients from when they were babies to when they've grown up, and they've brought their babies to me.
What we're really adamant about is that continuity of care, which really makes general practice in the UK the best in the world Prof Steve Field, Royal College of GPs class="lp" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/default.stm">HAVE YOUR SAYI don't care which GP I see, the problem is getting to see oneDave, Stockport class="" href="http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=4304&edition=1&ttl=20080216142557">Send us your comments
"It's very important that whatever developments modern medicine brings, we don't lose that underlying personal relationship.""It's very important that whatever developments modern medicine brings, we don't lose that underlying personal relationship."
Professor Steve Field, from the Royal College of General Practitioners, told the BBC the organisation was not against the principle of polyclinics as long as the doctor-patient relationship was preserved.Professor Steve Field, from the Royal College of General Practitioners, told the BBC the organisation was not against the principle of polyclinics as long as the doctor-patient relationship was preserved.
He said: "What we're really adamant about is that continuity of care you get in general practice, which really makes general practice in the UK the best in the world.He said: "What we're really adamant about is that continuity of care you get in general practice, which really makes general practice in the UK the best in the world.
"And what we mustn't do is undo what's great.""And what we mustn't do is undo what's great."
Ms Primarolo suggested the policy would only apply to those larger practices that were already starting to function like polyclinics.Ms Primarolo suggested the policy would only apply to those larger practices that were already starting to function like polyclinics.
"It's very important that you have access, that you are reassured you have a good... understanding with your GP, and none of that is going to change," she said."It's very important that you have access, that you are reassured you have a good... understanding with your GP, and none of that is going to change," she said.
"And in big centres those services can be broader, but obviously in smaller communities you need still to have the access, and that means the provision may be built around individual or one or two GPs.""And in big centres those services can be broader, but obviously in smaller communities you need still to have the access, and that means the provision may be built around individual or one or two GPs."
Lord Darzi has been commissioned by Prime Minister Gordon Brown to carry out a wholesale review of the NHS in England, and polyclinics were a high profile feature of his interim report published last year.Lord Darzi has been commissioned by Prime Minister Gordon Brown to carry out a wholesale review of the NHS in England, and polyclinics were a high profile feature of his interim report published last year.
He also proposed the introduction of polyclinics in his 2007 review of the NHS in London.He also proposed the introduction of polyclinics in his 2007 review of the NHS in London.