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12.27pm AEST03:27
You probably know that Obama got his fast track through on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This means the TPP is looking a whole lot more likely. There is a piece here by Paul Lewis from Washington.
Barack Obama was given the authority he has long sought to expedite negotiations for a massive trade deal with countries on the Pacific rim, propelling the US toward a landmark agreement that, both proponents and critics agree, will reshape the global economy.
The Republican-controlled Senate finally passed legislation on Wednesday that gives the president the power to “fast-track” negotiations with the 11 other countries party to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
The vote, which passed 60-38, was a significant victory for multinational corporations which have been lobbying hard for a trade agreement expected to lower tariffs and create new regulations for sectors as diverse as agriculture, banking and the pharmaceutical industry.
One of the things critics have been worried about is the Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS). DFAT has just put out a “mythbusting” sheet.
FOURTH MYTH: THE TPP INVESTOR STATE DISPUTE SETTLEMENT (ISDS)PROVISIONS WILL ALLOW FOREIGN COMPANIES TO SUE THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT IF A FOREIGN COMPANY MAKES A LOSS ON ITS INVESTMENTS IN AUSTRALIA
REALITY: NO
ISDS provisions provide an opportunity for investors, including Australian investors, to protect their investments overseas against expropriation and to ensure that they are afforded a certain minimum standard of treatment, and treated in a non-discriminatory manner. ISDS does not protect an investor from a mere loss of profits and does not prevent a Government from changing its policies or regulating in the public interest. Modern ISDS mechanisms incorporate explicit safeguards to re-affirm the right of governments to take decisions in the public interest, including in the areas of health and the environment, and reduce the chances that foreign investors bring frivolous claims.
I will try to find the link to the full info sheet.
12.08pm AEST03:08
Jacqui Lambie speaks to the government’s charge that the senate was chaotic with the number of minor parties and independents:
The definition of chaos is when a government rushes dodgy legislation through parliament in order to make a pre-emptive political strike on the rule of law while paying international criminals $30,000 worth of bribes.
11.55am AEST02:55
Lambie says Tony Abbott is:
milking the terror threat for all it’s worth.
She says the main reason for Australian troops in the Middle East is to stop the coalition backbench from revolting (against Abbott’s leadership).
11.53am AEST02:5311.53am AEST02:53
Senator Jacqui Lambie describes the migration bill as aSenator Jacqui Lambie describes the migration bill as a
get out of jail free card.get out of jail free card.
Lambie wants the government to wait and see what the high court says.Lambie wants the government to wait and see what the high court says.
11.50am AEST02:5011.50am AEST02:50
Paul Farrell has a story suggesting that whistleblowers could lose their citizenship under the government’s new laws.Paul Farrell has a story suggesting that whistleblowers could lose their citizenship under the government’s new laws.
Whistleblowers who speak out on serious matters relating to Australia’s national security – including those involved in the Timor-Leste bugging scandal case – and who are dual citizens could face having their citizenship revoked under proposed laws.Whistleblowers who speak out on serious matters relating to Australia’s national security – including those involved in the Timor-Leste bugging scandal case – and who are dual citizens could face having their citizenship revoked under proposed laws.
A bill introduced to the federal parliament by the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, on Wednesday enhances the power of the immigration minister to revoke or initiate a renunciation of citizenship for conduct deemed to relate to certain terrorism offences. The new bill seeks to strip only dual nationals of their citizenship.A bill introduced to the federal parliament by the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, on Wednesday enhances the power of the immigration minister to revoke or initiate a renunciation of citizenship for conduct deemed to relate to certain terrorism offences. The new bill seeks to strip only dual nationals of their citizenship.
11.45am AEST02:4511.45am AEST02:45
Richard Di Natale is speaking on the migration bill.Richard Di Natale is speaking on the migration bill.
I readily admit there are no easy solutions.I readily admit there are no easy solutions.
He says the Greens amendments will improve a “diabolical situation”.He says the Greens amendments will improve a “diabolical situation”.
11.39am AEST02:3911.39am AEST02:39
And while I’m on interesting pieces, here’s one from lawyer and academic Fergal Davis in The New Daily who has written on hyper-legislating in the area of national security. It has the legislation by numbers.And while I’m on interesting pieces, here’s one from lawyer and academic Fergal Davis in The New Daily who has written on hyper-legislating in the area of national security. It has the legislation by numbers.
The Federal Parliament is addicted to the thrill of enacting these laws. They are often draconian and frequently unnecessary.The Federal Parliament is addicted to the thrill of enacting these laws. They are often draconian and frequently unnecessary.
Prof George Williams, a constitutional expert, did the maths. Between 2001 and 2007 the Howard government enacted 48 anti-terror laws.Prof George Williams, a constitutional expert, did the maths. Between 2001 and 2007 the Howard government enacted 48 anti-terror laws.
The pace slowed under the Rudd/Gillard governments. They managed a further 13 anti-terror laws.The pace slowed under the Rudd/Gillard governments. They managed a further 13 anti-terror laws.
In 2014 the Abbott government enacted a further three “tranches” of national security laws.In 2014 the Abbott government enacted a further three “tranches” of national security laws.
By any measure Australia’s post 9/11 record is remarkable. The speed with which anti-terror laws are adopted, amended and superseded is astonishing.By any measure Australia’s post 9/11 record is remarkable. The speed with which anti-terror laws are adopted, amended and superseded is astonishing.
But why does Australia hyper-legislate?But why does Australia hyper-legislate?
11.34am AEST02:3411.34am AEST02:34
I have been remiss not bringing you the opinion piece by Ricky Muir in our very own G on the citizenship legislation. Here is a snippet.I have been remiss not bringing you the opinion piece by Ricky Muir in our very own G on the citizenship legislation. Here is a snippet.
Tony Abbott has left open the possibility of amending the bill so that it applies retrospectively. Although there is no express or implied prohibition on the making of retrospective laws in the Australian constitution, we need to tread very carefully.Tony Abbott has left open the possibility of amending the bill so that it applies retrospectively. Although there is no express or implied prohibition on the making of retrospective laws in the Australian constitution, we need to tread very carefully.
I do not accept the mentality of ruling by fear and I worry about the slippery slope we may head down if we allow government to enact laws based on fear rather than rationale.I do not accept the mentality of ruling by fear and I worry about the slippery slope we may head down if we allow government to enact laws based on fear rather than rationale.
If our government has a desire to strengthen laws they should do so factually and calmly, not by spreading fear – that is doing the job of the terrorist.If our government has a desire to strengthen laws they should do so factually and calmly, not by spreading fear – that is doing the job of the terrorist.
You will remember that Muir only got 0.51% of the primary vote. Outrage ensued.You will remember that Muir only got 0.51% of the primary vote. Outrage ensued.
Any more of this sort of logic from him and we will definitely need those senate reforms to get rid of unrepresentative swill.Any more of this sort of logic from him and we will definitely need those senate reforms to get rid of unrepresentative swill.
11.19am AEST02:1911.19am AEST02:19
Sarah Hanson-Young says the Greens want:Sarah Hanson-Young says the Greens want:
11.06am AEST02:0611.06am AEST02:06
Sarah Hanson-Young: migration bill about unfettered power in detention campsSarah Hanson-Young: migration bill about unfettered power in detention camps
Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young is speaking to the migration legislation.Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young is speaking to the migration legislation.
She says this bill does more than give the powers to pay contractors. It allows commonwealth “unfettered power as to how they want to run these places”.She says this bill does more than give the powers to pay contractors. It allows commonwealth “unfettered power as to how they want to run these places”.
This goes to the heart of lawfulfulness of detaining people indefinitely in these places.This goes to the heart of lawfulfulness of detaining people indefinitely in these places.
This is not about plugging a loophole.This is not about plugging a loophole.
These detention camps have been getting worse for the last three years.These detention camps have been getting worse for the last three years.
Now we find out they have been run illegally, paid for illegally.Now we find out they have been run illegally, paid for illegally.
We’ve got to put restrictions on how these places are run.We’ve got to put restrictions on how these places are run.
Very few senators are in the chamber.Very few senators are in the chamber.
Updated at 11.08am AESTUpdated at 11.08am AEST
10.52am AEST01:5210.52am AEST01:52
The prime minister’s office commented:The prime minister’s office commented:
The documents were selected by ASIO and the Director-General of Security is satisfied that no information of national security significance was visible while media representatives were present.The documents were selected by ASIO and the Director-General of Security is satisfied that no information of national security significance was visible while media representatives were present.
10.51am AEST01:5110.51am AEST01:51
Asio: The content of the documents did not compromise national security.Asio: The content of the documents did not compromise national security.
Thanks to Shalailah for tracking down this statement from Asio.Thanks to Shalailah for tracking down this statement from Asio.
There has been reporting in some quarters of the media regarding the sensitivity of documents used in briefing the Prime Minister yesterday.There has been reporting in some quarters of the media regarding the sensitivity of documents used in briefing the Prime Minister yesterday.
The Director-General of Security confirms the documents used in the briefing were not the subject of a national security classification.The Director-General of Security confirms the documents used in the briefing were not the subject of a national security classification.
The documents were carefully edited and were unclassified. The content of the documents did not compromise national security.The documents were carefully edited and were unclassified. The content of the documents did not compromise national security.
10.49am AEST01:4910.49am AEST01:49
The migration amendment (regional processing arrangements) bill 2015 is now in the senate. Labor’s Kim Carr is speaking to the motion. Labor will not support Greens amendments so the bill will go through as is. It allows the funding of offshore processing retrospectively.The migration amendment (regional processing arrangements) bill 2015 is now in the senate. Labor’s Kim Carr is speaking to the motion. Labor will not support Greens amendments so the bill will go through as is. It allows the funding of offshore processing retrospectively.
10.45am AEST01:4510.45am AEST01:45
Ken Wyatt is presenting the Constitutional Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples Committee report to the parliament now. This is about recognising Indigenous people in the constitution.Ken Wyatt is presenting the Constitutional Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples Committee report to the parliament now. This is about recognising Indigenous people in the constitution.
Shalailah Medhora has a report here.Shalailah Medhora has a report here.
Wyatt is urging all Australians to read the report in its entirety rather than taking “a shallow cursory look at the recommendations”.Wyatt is urging all Australians to read the report in its entirety rather than taking “a shallow cursory look at the recommendations”.
While this journey has been a long one, I am confident in the success of this referendum today as opposed to when I became part of the process in 2012. Australia and by extension are diverse and multicultural. We are proud of our heritage and our culture. Let us make it stronger. Let us fill the silence. Let us complete our constitution. Let us recognise.While this journey has been a long one, I am confident in the success of this referendum today as opposed to when I became part of the process in 2012. Australia and by extension are diverse and multicultural. We are proud of our heritage and our culture. Let us make it stronger. Let us fill the silence. Let us complete our constitution. Let us recognise.
10.33am AEST01:3310.33am AEST01:33
Back to the maps. James Brown of the US Studies Centre tweeted that the Washington Post had the same map as Asio.Back to the maps. James Brown of the US Studies Centre tweeted that the Washington Post had the same map as Asio.
. @washingtonpost map http://t.co/N6fM1joJI7 ASIO map pic.twitter.com/4pQUbhJwQR. @washingtonpost map http://t.co/N6fM1joJI7 ASIO map pic.twitter.com/4pQUbhJwQR
Meanwhile, another history lesson from Twitter friend Matt Hatter.Meanwhile, another history lesson from Twitter friend Matt Hatter.
@gabriellechan Re govts releasing more info than they should; from a time when govts were fun.... #politicslive pic.twitter.com/AP99VxlPTZ@gabriellechan Re govts releasing more info than they should; from a time when govts were fun.... #politicslive pic.twitter.com/AP99VxlPTZ
10.21am AEST01:2110.21am AEST01:21
You know those people who don’t read the body language?You know those people who don’t read the body language?
10.17am AEST01:1710.17am AEST01:17
A history lesson.A history lesson.
All this business about lying reminds me of an exchange between Kerry O’Brien at the 7.30 Report and the then minister Tony Abbott in 2003.All this business about lying reminds me of an exchange between Kerry O’Brien at the 7.30 Report and the then minister Tony Abbott in 2003.
O’Brien: In your statement last night, you also referred to a Sydney Morning Herald’ report on March 11 2000...which challenged you on another conflict in the Sharples affair when you replied to the Herald, “Misleading the ABC is not quite the same as misleading the Parliament as a political crime”.You acknowledged there that you misled the ABC?Abbott: No, no, no.It was a flippant comment and, as I said in that statement last night, I shouldn’t have made a flippant comment in response to the ‘Sydney Morning Herald’. O’Brien: Where is it flippant?You’ve said that you misled the ABC.Abbott: Well, I appreciate, Kerry, that you might not have any sense of humour.O’Brien: Oh, I have one.Abbott: I thought it was a throwaway line, it was a flippant comment, and, of course, I should never be flippant about the ABC or about the ‘Sydney Morning Herald’.O’Brien: These are your words - ‘misleading’.Your word - “misleading the ABC”.You have said there that you misled the ABC in that interview with.. Abbott: No, no, no, no.O’Brien: Why isn’t a lie?Abbott: No, no, no, no.O’Brien: You mislead someone, aren’t you lying to them?Abbott: Oh, Kerry, look, I think I’ve made my position abundantly clear.O’Brien: In your statement last night, you also referred to a Sydney Morning Herald’ report on March 11 2000...which challenged you on another conflict in the Sharples affair when you replied to the Herald, “Misleading the ABC is not quite the same as misleading the Parliament as a political crime”.You acknowledged there that you misled the ABC?Abbott: No, no, no.It was a flippant comment and, as I said in that statement last night, I shouldn’t have made a flippant comment in response to the ‘Sydney Morning Herald’. O’Brien: Where is it flippant?You’ve said that you misled the ABC.Abbott: Well, I appreciate, Kerry, that you might not have any sense of humour.O’Brien: Oh, I have one.Abbott: I thought it was a throwaway line, it was a flippant comment, and, of course, I should never be flippant about the ABC or about the ‘Sydney Morning Herald’.O’Brien: These are your words - ‘misleading’.Your word - “misleading the ABC”.You have said there that you misled the ABC in that interview with.. Abbott: No, no, no, no.O’Brien: Why isn’t a lie?Abbott: No, no, no, no.O’Brien: You mislead someone, aren’t you lying to them?Abbott: Oh, Kerry, look, I think I’ve made my position abundantly clear.
Updated at 11.00am AESTUpdated at 11.00am AEST
10.04am AEST01:0410.04am AEST01:04
Bill Shorten says no one in the caucus has contacted him about the events in 2013 and rejected suggestions he won the leadership unfairly.Bill Shorten says no one in the caucus has contacted him about the events in 2013 and rejected suggestions he won the leadership unfairly.
Would you have won the Labor leadership if you hadn’t lied?Would you have won the Labor leadership if you hadn’t lied?
It was an interview in the heat of the most difficult period that theLabor Party was going through in many decades. I made a mistake and I regret that. What I also know is that I’m motivated at that time not to inflame the debate in the LaborParty. There is a lesson learned about using other words to answer questions.It was an interview in the heat of the most difficult period that theLabor Party was going through in many decades. I made a mistake and I regret that. What I also know is that I’m motivated at that time not to inflame the debate in the LaborParty. There is a lesson learned about using other words to answer questions.
9.52am AEST00:529.52am AEST00:52
Shorten: I certainly regret the answer I gave and I made a mistake.Shorten: I certainly regret the answer I gave and I made a mistake.
Another formula from Bill Shorten regarding that interview.Another formula from Bill Shorten regarding that interview.
Q: Is your own integrity going to be a problem in the lead up to the next election?Q: Is your own integrity going to be a problem in the lead up to the next election?
That is ridiculous. What I say is that the interview with Neil Mitchell was done in the heat of the worst period of internal division in the Labor Party for decades. They were particular circumstances. I certainly regret the answer I gave and I made a mistake.That is ridiculous. What I say is that the interview with Neil Mitchell was done in the heat of the worst period of internal division in the Labor Party for decades. They were particular circumstances. I certainly regret the answer I gave and I made a mistake.
Updated at 11.27am AESTUpdated at 11.27am AEST
9.47am AEST00:479.47am AEST00:47
Shorten: I am kicking myself in hindsightShorten: I am kicking myself in hindsight
Q: Mr Shorten, you say you made a mistake. Can you guarantee from here on in, you will not mislead the media and as a result the public on anything from this day forward?Q: Mr Shorten, you say you made a mistake. Can you guarantee from here on in, you will not mislead the media and as a result the public on anything from this day forward?
I guarantee that when I’m asked about internal party matters, I won’t give the sort of answer I gave. You can rest assured, I am kicking myself in hindsight. If people ask about internal party matters, there are far better answers to give than the one I gave and we have learned that lesson. We have also learnt the lesson from that time period about disunity. Australians mark political parties down if they are disunited.I guarantee that when I’m asked about internal party matters, I won’t give the sort of answer I gave. You can rest assured, I am kicking myself in hindsight. If people ask about internal party matters, there are far better answers to give than the one I gave and we have learned that lesson. We have also learnt the lesson from that time period about disunity. Australians mark political parties down if they are disunited.
9.42am AEST00:429.42am AEST00:42
Shorten admits lying on the leadership in 2013Shorten admits lying on the leadership in 2013
Bill Shorten is asked about his role in the leadership of the last Labor government. The Killing Season revealed Shorten was having conversations with Kevin Rudd in 2013 and that Rudd wanted to change the leadership rules to ensure it was harder to knock off leaders in future. At that time, he told Neil Mitchell that he was not having conversations with Rudd and was fully supporting Julia Gillard.Bill Shorten is asked about his role in the leadership of the last Labor government. The Killing Season revealed Shorten was having conversations with Kevin Rudd in 2013 and that Rudd wanted to change the leadership rules to ensure it was harder to knock off leaders in future. At that time, he told Neil Mitchell that he was not having conversations with Rudd and was fully supporting Julia Gillard.
Do you concede you won the ALP leadership based on the lie of knifing a PM?Do you concede you won the ALP leadership based on the lie of knifing a PM?
I made a mistake in that radio interview. I regret that. It was difficult times, as you are all aware. The Labor Party was bitterly divided and certainly I didn’t want to put any more fuel on that fire. In terms of what actually happened, I did speak to Kevin Rudd on the night of the 19th [June].He did ask me for support. I most certainly did not commit on that night to support Kevin Rudd. But they were tough times. What the Labor Party has learned since then is the fundamental importance of being united and we are united.I made a mistake in that radio interview. I regret that. It was difficult times, as you are all aware. The Labor Party was bitterly divided and certainly I didn’t want to put any more fuel on that fire. In terms of what actually happened, I did speak to Kevin Rudd on the night of the 19th [June].He did ask me for support. I most certainly did not commit on that night to support Kevin Rudd. But they were tough times. What the Labor Party has learned since then is the fundamental importance of being united and we are united.
Updated at 9.48am AESTUpdated at 9.48am AEST
9.35am AEST00:359.35am AEST00:35
No props.No props.
9.32am AEST00:329.32am AEST00:32
Speaker Bronwyn Bishop is giving an Australian Parliamentary Delegation report.Speaker Bronwyn Bishop is giving an Australian Parliamentary Delegation report.
Meanwhile Bill Shorten is speaking at the Tuggeranong Action Bus Depot.Meanwhile Bill Shorten is speaking at the Tuggeranong Action Bus Depot.
It must be the last day of sitting.It must be the last day of sitting.
9.30am AEST00:309.30am AEST00:30
78-45. The prime minister is not censured.78-45. The prime minister is not censured.
9.26am AEST00:269.26am AEST00:26
77-46.77-46.
We have had three gags, which by the way, in parliamentary terms, is called a:We have had three gags, which by the way, in parliamentary terms, is called a:
closure of member.closure of member.
Now the substantive vote on the censure of the prime minister.Now the substantive vote on the censure of the prime minister.
9.24am AEST00:249.24am AEST00:24
Labor is gagged. 75 47.Labor is gagged. 75 47.
Now the government just wants to get on with the censure motion so they can defeat it on the numbers.Now the government just wants to get on with the censure motion so they can defeat it on the numbers.
Another vote.Another vote.
9.21am AEST00:219.21am AEST00:21
Labor is gagged. 73-47.Labor is gagged. 73-47.
Anthony Albanese tried to second the motion. He points at madam speaker.Anthony Albanese tried to second the motion. He points at madam speaker.
Asio should not be used as a prop for a Liberal party photo opportunity.Asio should not be used as a prop for a Liberal party photo opportunity.
Government moves the gag.Government moves the gag.
9.10am AEST00:109.10am AEST00:10
Scott Morrison moved the gag motion.Scott Morrison moved the gag motion.
9.10am AEST00:109.10am AEST00:10
While the house is dividing, there’s a bit of argy bargy between Labor and the Coalition about using the gag motion.While the house is dividing, there’s a bit of argy bargy between Labor and the Coalition about using the gag motion.
9.06am AEST00:069.06am AEST00:06
The government is seeking to gag Labor. A division now.The government is seeking to gag Labor. A division now.
The substance of the suspension motion is around whether there was a security breach. I will get the text to you shortly.The substance of the suspension motion is around whether there was a security breach. I will get the text to you shortly.
9.05am AEST00:059.05am AEST00:05
Labor is seeking to suspend standing orders regarding the Asio press conference. First up. 9am.Labor is seeking to suspend standing orders regarding the Asio press conference. First up. 9am.
8.54am AEST23:548.54am AEST23:54
Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
Liberal backbencher Craig Laundy, whose western Sydney seats takes in many of hotspots shown in the map said he is aware of the problem of radicalisation.Liberal backbencher Craig Laundy, whose western Sydney seats takes in many of hotspots shown in the map said he is aware of the problem of radicalisation.
This is a known issue. We know where these areas are... and this should be called for what it is, a beat up.This is a known issue. We know where these areas are... and this should be called for what it is, a beat up.
Updated at 9.19am AESTUpdated at 9.19am AEST
8.41am AEST23:418.41am AEST23:41
Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
From Shalailah, the report from the cross-party committee on indigenous recognition. A story that was strangely tagged as exclusive by two outlets this morning.From Shalailah, the report from the cross-party committee on indigenous recognition. A story that was strangely tagged as exclusive by two outlets this morning.
A clause mentioning Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders should be inserted into Australia’s founding document and another that discriminates on the basis of race removed, a parliamentary report will recommend.A clause mentioning Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders should be inserted into Australia’s founding document and another that discriminates on the basis of race removed, a parliamentary report will recommend.
The cross-party parliamentary committee examining different models for a future referendum on constitutional reform will hand down its report on Thursday morning. It will be tabled by Australia’s first Indigenous member of the House of Representatives, Ken Wyatt.The cross-party parliamentary committee examining different models for a future referendum on constitutional reform will hand down its report on Thursday morning. It will be tabled by Australia’s first Indigenous member of the House of Representatives, Ken Wyatt.
Guardian Australia understands the committee was unanimous in pushing for the the inclusion of a new clause recognising Indigenous Australians in the constitution.Guardian Australia understands the committee was unanimous in pushing for the the inclusion of a new clause recognising Indigenous Australians in the constitution.
8.36am AEST23:368.36am AEST23:36
Shadow defence spokesman David Feeney has questioned the prime minister’s instincts on national security.Shadow defence spokesman David Feeney has questioned the prime minister’s instincts on national security.
How can it be that the prime minister who tells us day after day that he is at the heart of a very serious security conversation and tells us that’s a security conversation that involves each and every one of our interests, can suddenly be in a meeting being appraised of sensitive material and not recognise it for the sensitive material that it is. How can his own instincts, which he tells us are very finely honed, not ring with alarm bells when he is being briefed on material that is secret in full view of our cameras.How can it be that the prime minister who tells us day after day that he is at the heart of a very serious security conversation and tells us that’s a security conversation that involves each and every one of our interests, can suddenly be in a meeting being appraised of sensitive material and not recognise it for the sensitive material that it is. How can his own instincts, which he tells us are very finely honed, not ring with alarm bells when he is being briefed on material that is secret in full view of our cameras.
8.12am AEST23:128.12am AEST23:12
Good morning,Good morning,
A glorious pink Canberra sunrise heralds in the last sitting day before the winter break. On the breakfast smorgasbord today:A glorious pink Canberra sunrise heralds in the last sitting day before the winter break. On the breakfast smorgasbord today:
In delivering the Magna Carta lecture last night, the prime minister justified the broad ambit of his legislation to strip dual nationals of Australian citizenship. He lamented how difficult it was to get evidence to put terrorists in jail, which is:In delivering the Magna Carta lecture last night, the prime minister justified the broad ambit of his legislation to strip dual nationals of Australian citizenship. He lamented how difficult it was to get evidence to put terrorists in jail, which is:
easier said than done, despite new laws making it an offence merely to be present in designated terrorist-controlled areas...We can’t readily put informers on the witness stand or always make available intelligence without risk to sources and it wouldn’t usually be possible, nor desirable, in such cases to bring witnesses from the Middle East to testify.easier said than done, despite new laws making it an offence merely to be present in designated terrorist-controlled areas...We can’t readily put informers on the witness stand or always make available intelligence without risk to sources and it wouldn’t usually be possible, nor desirable, in such cases to bring witnesses from the Middle East to testify.
On the standard rules of evidence, without a confession, securing a conviction is hardly straightforward, let alone for crimes committed offshore in ungoverned space. Bringing foreign fighters back to face trial in Australia risks leaving them free on our streets rather than in our jails. That’s why the government has introduced legislation to strip citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals.On the standard rules of evidence, without a confession, securing a conviction is hardly straightforward, let alone for crimes committed offshore in ungoverned space. Bringing foreign fighters back to face trial in Australia risks leaving them free on our streets rather than in our jails. That’s why the government has introduced legislation to strip citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals.
Daniel Hurst has the full story here.Daniel Hurst has the full story here.
The peculiar thing about the national security debate is the confusing nature of the government’s narrative. On the one hand, Australians hear the prime minister speaking about death cults, evil and barbarous forces, coming for all of us. We must be both alert AND alarmed. (Gone are the John Howard fridge magnets.) On the other hand, the overnight story that terrorism recruitment hotspot maps were revealed for a prime ministerial photo op at Asio headquarters suggests there is a theatrical nature to this national security debate which makes the message feel disingenuous. It comes after the news last month that the attorney general’s office did not hear alarm bells at the letter from Man Haron Monis, the Martin Place murderer. Monis asked if he was allowed to contact Isis for a chat. The letter, (admittedly one of the thousands his office would receive every month), was not picked up, in spite of the Australia’s heightened terrorist alert. I’m confused.The peculiar thing about the national security debate is the confusing nature of the government’s narrative. On the one hand, Australians hear the prime minister speaking about death cults, evil and barbarous forces, coming for all of us. We must be both alert AND alarmed. (Gone are the John Howard fridge magnets.) On the other hand, the overnight story that terrorism recruitment hotspot maps were revealed for a prime ministerial photo op at Asio headquarters suggests there is a theatrical nature to this national security debate which makes the message feel disingenuous. It comes after the news last month that the attorney general’s office did not hear alarm bells at the letter from Man Haron Monis, the Martin Place murderer. Monis asked if he was allowed to contact Isis for a chat. The letter, (admittedly one of the thousands his office would receive every month), was not picked up, in spite of the Australia’s heightened terrorist alert. I’m confused.
The senate has a job ahead today. The migration amendment bill, which passed the lower house yesterday, will go to the senate today. This is the bill that the government rushed through once they worked out that the Human Rights Law Centre had a real prospect with their challenge in the high court. The HRLC was challenging the government’s very right to fund offshore detention, going back to Labor’s time. This embarrassing hole in the legal walls of fortress Australia needs to be plugged before the pollies head back to their electorates. Labor answered the government’s call but asked for an I.O.U. Remember this day, Bill Shorten said. The government has told the senate, no one leaves until its fixed but Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young has promised to amend the bill to enforce some humanising elements. However she does not have the numbers, given the majors are joined at the hip so we can expect a few more gags before the end of the day.The senate has a job ahead today. The migration amendment bill, which passed the lower house yesterday, will go to the senate today. This is the bill that the government rushed through once they worked out that the Human Rights Law Centre had a real prospect with their challenge in the high court. The HRLC was challenging the government’s very right to fund offshore detention, going back to Labor’s time. This embarrassing hole in the legal walls of fortress Australia needs to be plugged before the pollies head back to their electorates. Labor answered the government’s call but asked for an I.O.U. Remember this day, Bill Shorten said. The government has told the senate, no one leaves until its fixed but Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young has promised to amend the bill to enforce some humanising elements. However she does not have the numbers, given the majors are joined at the hip so we can expect a few more gags before the end of the day.
I will end there before this post turns into war and peace. We have a whole lot more analysis of the citizenship legislation and I will get to the Indigenous recognition debate next. In the meantime, better publish and be damned. Talk to us below and on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers.I will end there before this post turns into war and peace. We have a whole lot more analysis of the citizenship legislation and I will get to the Indigenous recognition debate next. In the meantime, better publish and be damned. Talk to us below and on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers.