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Sci-fi, creative writing and wizards – Africa's best authors discuss modern literature | Sci-fi, creative writing and wizards – Africa's best authors discuss modern literature |
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That’s all we have time for. Thanks everyone for your questions, and especially to Namwali, Elnathan, FT Kola, Segun and Masande for taking the time to take part – it’s been a great discussion. | That’s all we have time for. Thanks everyone for your questions, and especially to Namwali, Elnathan, FT Kola, Segun and Masande for taking the time to take part – it’s been a great discussion. |
The winner of the Caine Prize will be announced on Monday 6 July. | The winner of the Caine Prize will be announced on Monday 6 July. |
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From Twitter | From Twitter |
We’ve had great input into the debate from Twitter. From questions about representing Africa, to romance, wizardry and the ethics of photocopying books. | We’ve had great input into the debate from Twitter. From questions about representing Africa, to romance, wizardry and the ethics of photocopying books. |
Defining African fiction: | Defining African fiction: |
Hey, @GuardianAfrica! As @hystericalblkns asks, "Why is this (always) THE question?" Why must African literature be defined? | Hey, @GuardianAfrica! As @hystericalblkns asks, "Why is this (always) THE question?" Why must African literature be defined? |
@GuardianAfrica - when will this question tire? Fifty years and more and there is no answer? Sigh. - @bwesigye | @GuardianAfrica - when will this question tire? Fifty years and more and there is no answer? Sigh. - @bwesigye |
Love: | Love: |
@guardian @elnathan is known for satire and intellectual humour.. would u venture into romantic fiction? | @guardian @elnathan is known for satire and intellectual humour.. would u venture into romantic fiction? |
I don't know anything about romance. So far I have failed woefully at it. I try to write what I know. :) https://t.co/XbxwtRQdZ1 | I don't know anything about romance. So far I have failed woefully at it. I try to write what I know. :) https://t.co/XbxwtRQdZ1 |
African Hogwarts? | African Hogwarts? |
Loving the speculation about what an African Hogwarts would be like on @GuardianAfrica webchat RN: http://t.co/OkRULqFpd8 | Loving the speculation about what an African Hogwarts would be like on @GuardianAfrica webchat RN: http://t.co/OkRULqFpd8 |
Boko Haram and student photocopies: | Boko Haram and student photocopies: |
@guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica @elnathan why are there not enough books about Boko Haram written by Nigerians? | @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica @elnathan why are there not enough books about Boko Haram written by Nigerians? |
@imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica Actually, there is a fabulous book on Boko Haram with several Nigerian contributors. | @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica Actually, there is a fabulous book on Boko Haram with several Nigerian contributors. |
@lolashoneyin @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica There is one titled "The Paradox of Boko Haram". I forgot the author's name. | @lolashoneyin @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica There is one titled "The Paradox of Boko Haram". I forgot the author's name. |
@Sir_Ruffy @lolashoneyin @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica I remember I borrowed that book from you, I think I made a photocopy | @Sir_Ruffy @lolashoneyin @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica I remember I borrowed that book from you, I think I made a photocopy |
@aremulateef1 @Sir_Ruffy @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica You photocopied the book? | @aremulateef1 @Sir_Ruffy @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica You photocopied the book? |
@lolashoneyin @Sir_Ruffy @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica yes ma'am, we were undergraduates then. | @lolashoneyin @Sir_Ruffy @imamdimam @guardian @naijama @GuardianAfrica yes ma'am, we were undergraduates then. |
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To each of the writers | To each of the writers |
I have a question for each of the authors regarding their individual stories, if they wouldn't mind talking a little bit about them. | I have a question for each of the authors regarding their individual stories, if they wouldn't mind talking a little bit about them. |
Segun Afolabi: What drew you to the topic of religious revivals and faith healers like Daddy Cool? Did you do any first-hand research on the subject? | Segun Afolabi: What drew you to the topic of religious revivals and faith healers like Daddy Cool? Did you do any first-hand research on the subject? |
Namwali Serpell: I'm so interested in the point-of-view shifts in "The Sack," and how you hold off on revealing the complicated relationship between J. and his bwana until the very end. Could you talk about how you arrived at this structure for the story? | Namwali Serpell: I'm so interested in the point-of-view shifts in "The Sack," and how you hold off on revealing the complicated relationship between J. and his bwana until the very end. Could you talk about how you arrived at this structure for the story? |
FT Kola: You do such a great job of evoking the awkwardness the Colonel's wife feels at the party, trying to navigate both her husband's excessive pride and her discomfort with her surroundings. I'd love to hear about how you captured such a rich, complicated depiction of her social distress. | FT Kola: You do such a great job of evoking the awkwardness the Colonel's wife feels at the party, trying to navigate both her husband's excessive pride and her discomfort with her surroundings. I'd love to hear about how you captured such a rich, complicated depiction of her social distress. |
Elnathan John: I'm most interested in the resurrections in the story, both for Aunt Keturah in the end, and for Tachio as he considers what his old life must have been like to end up in the refuge home. Could you speak to the connections between Tachio's dream life and the revelations he make from reading the refuge home's records about the histories of the other children? | Elnathan John: I'm most interested in the resurrections in the story, both for Aunt Keturah in the end, and for Tachio as he considers what his old life must have been like to end up in the refuge home. Could you speak to the connections between Tachio's dream life and the revelations he make from reading the refuge home's records about the histories of the other children? |
Masande Ntshanga: One of the things the story foregrounds is the adolescent sexuality of the boys -- developing just as they enter an era in which sex takes on new consequences. What drew you to focusing on young men of this age, and how do their relationships provide a focal point for the larger social changes that the grey man foreshadows? | Masande Ntshanga: One of the things the story foregrounds is the adolescent sexuality of the boys -- developing just as they enter an era in which sex takes on new consequences. What drew you to focusing on young men of this age, and how do their relationships provide a focal point for the larger social changes that the grey man foreshadows? |
Thank you all! | Thank you all! |
Thanks Mr Tibs - I was drawn to the issue of faith healing on several counts including the disappoint of people, post-revival, whose conditions haven’t improved, and also the tremendous amounts wealth amassed by the pastors who minister to these people - the dichotomy there and the possibility of deep disappointment (or being able to rationalise or even blame oneself because of a lack of faith). And yes, a significant amount of research (but I also go to church from time to time). | Thanks Mr Tibs - I was drawn to the issue of faith healing on several counts including the disappoint of people, post-revival, whose conditions haven’t improved, and also the tremendous amounts wealth amassed by the pastors who minister to these people - the dichotomy there and the possibility of deep disappointment (or being able to rationalise or even blame oneself because of a lack of faith). And yes, a significant amount of research (but I also go to church from time to time). |
Hi Mr Tibs, thank you for taking the time to read our stories and to ask such thoughtful questions! I'm glad the awkwardness comes through in the story - part of my project was to evoke several types of social discomfort and awkwardness, and hopefully to make the reader feel them too.. One type is of course the awkwardness that the greater political situation (occurring in the background) brings about. These are people that are just not comfortable with one another, and they have to talk politely around Apartheid and what it means. But the other is just the very mundane awkwardness of going to a party where you don't know anyone. I wanted the Colonel's wife to be feeling both, and for the two to merge and mingle within her. So part of the writing process for her character was just thinking about all the times I've been to parties and felt awkward, and part of it was imagining the heightened anxiety that engagement between racial groups during Apartheid would cause. For that, I relied on stories from my parents and older relatives. It was then easy to draw the Colonel's wife's focus inwards, into her interior, but of course she simply finds more worries there. | Hi Mr Tibs, thank you for taking the time to read our stories and to ask such thoughtful questions! I'm glad the awkwardness comes through in the story - part of my project was to evoke several types of social discomfort and awkwardness, and hopefully to make the reader feel them too.. One type is of course the awkwardness that the greater political situation (occurring in the background) brings about. These are people that are just not comfortable with one another, and they have to talk politely around Apartheid and what it means. But the other is just the very mundane awkwardness of going to a party where you don't know anyone. I wanted the Colonel's wife to be feeling both, and for the two to merge and mingle within her. So part of the writing process for her character was just thinking about all the times I've been to parties and felt awkward, and part of it was imagining the heightened anxiety that engagement between racial groups during Apartheid would cause. For that, I relied on stories from my parents and older relatives. It was then easy to draw the Colonel's wife's focus inwards, into her interior, but of course she simply finds more worries there. |
MrTibs, I'm interested in what you think. Do you find that narrative delay and shifts in perspective are true to life, or distinctly fictional techniques? Do you think they produce a different experience than one would get from interacting with a group of new people? Does time work differently in life, fiction, and dream? Or are they all versions on a continuum? | MrTibs, I'm interested in what you think. Do you find that narrative delay and shifts in perspective are true to life, or distinctly fictional techniques? Do you think they produce a different experience than one would get from interacting with a group of new people? Does time work differently in life, fiction, and dream? Or are they all versions on a continuum? |
I was drawn to the age because I wanted to evoke a visceral and physical memory of Bhisho, in which I'd spent some of my childhood years. In writing, I often associate childhood memory with the senses and adult memory with language. I wanted the story to be immersive--to feel more like an experience than a linear narrative. | I was drawn to the age because I wanted to evoke a visceral and physical memory of Bhisho, in which I'd spent some of my childhood years. In writing, I often associate childhood memory with the senses and adult memory with language. I wanted the story to be immersive--to feel more like an experience than a linear narrative. |
Their relationships provide a focal point for the larger social changes that the grey man foreshadows insofar as both of them--the group of boys and the country--experience an opening into something unknown: the end of childhood on the one hand, and the end of apartheid--or the shifting of history--on the other. | Their relationships provide a focal point for the larger social changes that the grey man foreshadows insofar as both of them--the group of boys and the country--experience an opening into something unknown: the end of childhood on the one hand, and the end of apartheid--or the shifting of history--on the other. |
The link in the narrator's personal discovery of sexuality and the country's re-discovery of the implications and consequences of sex was fortuitous. | The link in the narrator's personal discovery of sexuality and the country's re-discovery of the implications and consequences of sex was fortuitous. |
What connection if any, do you think there is between Tachio's dream life and the revelations he makes from reading the refuge home's records about the histories of the other children? I'm curious. | What connection if any, do you think there is between Tachio's dream life and the revelations he makes from reading the refuge home's records about the histories of the other children? I'm curious. |
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Taking a stand | Taking a stand |
I appreciate that in any stable society literature can and sometimes should, steer clear of other issues. However the group called ISIL/ISIS/Daesh (along with the demented BBC's preferred name of Islamic State), Boko Haram and al-Qaeada are between them encroaching ever more on Africa with the intention of destroying art, literature and learning. My question to the panel would be: Is now the appropriate time for famous African authors to take a stand? Hhow many books has each of the panel written to date that seeking to point out the path of reason.? How many more such do they plan to write? | I appreciate that in any stable society literature can and sometimes should, steer clear of other issues. However the group called ISIL/ISIS/Daesh (along with the demented BBC's preferred name of Islamic State), Boko Haram and al-Qaeada are between them encroaching ever more on Africa with the intention of destroying art, literature and learning. My question to the panel would be: Is now the appropriate time for famous African authors to take a stand? Hhow many books has each of the panel written to date that seeking to point out the path of reason.? How many more such do they plan to write? |
Corrigenda, I appreciate that in any stable society, literature can and sometimes should steer clear of other issues. However the group called Wall Street, Dylann Roof, and police departments across the United States are between them encroaching ever more on America with the intention of destroying art, literature, and learning. My question to you would be: Is now the appropriate time for famous American authors to take a stand? How many books have American authors written to date that seek to point out the path of reason? How many books of that kind have YOU written to date? How many more such do YOU plan to write? | Corrigenda, I appreciate that in any stable society, literature can and sometimes should steer clear of other issues. However the group called Wall Street, Dylann Roof, and police departments across the United States are between them encroaching ever more on America with the intention of destroying art, literature, and learning. My question to you would be: Is now the appropriate time for famous American authors to take a stand? How many books have American authors written to date that seek to point out the path of reason? How many books of that kind have YOU written to date? How many more such do YOU plan to write? |
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Top 5 African novels to read | Top 5 African novels to read |
For a Westerner who would like to discover African literature, what 5 classic and/or contemporary African novels would you recommend to read? What is your favourite African novel or writer? | For a Westerner who would like to discover African literature, what 5 classic and/or contemporary African novels would you recommend to read? What is your favourite African novel or writer? |
Five contemporary (South) African novels I would recommend: | Five contemporary (South) African novels I would recommend: |
1. High Low in-Between by Imraan Coovadia | 1. High Low in-Between by Imraan Coovadia |
2. Tales of the Metric System by Imraan Coovadia | 2. Tales of the Metric System by Imraan Coovadia |
3. The Restless Supermarket by Ivan Vladislavic | 3. The Restless Supermarket by Ivan Vladislavic |
4. Penumbra by Songeziwe Mahlangu | 4. Penumbra by Songeziwe Mahlangu |
5. Laduma by AK Thembeka | 5. Laduma by AK Thembeka |
I don't have a favourite. | I don't have a favourite. |
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Inspiration for change | Inspiration for change |
Do you believe your books will be an inspiration for change in your own respective countries? Or are you happy with the current status quo and would your books reflect either of these spectrum's if i chose to pick one up? | Do you believe your books will be an inspiration for change in your own respective countries? Or are you happy with the current status quo and would your books reflect either of these spectrum's if i chose to pick one up? |
My aim was to write a good story, rather than to exercise social change through writing. When writing, I was only thinking about writing as a craft, and of the characters in my story, and on telling a story that would evoke a certain impression or atmosphere or feeling. To be perfectly honest, I think this is what concerns most fiction writers, African or otherwise. | My aim was to write a good story, rather than to exercise social change through writing. When writing, I was only thinking about writing as a craft, and of the characters in my story, and on telling a story that would evoke a certain impression or atmosphere or feeling. To be perfectly honest, I think this is what concerns most fiction writers, African or otherwise. |
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Hauntings and trolling... | Hauntings and trolling... |
What is the best course of action to take when one is being haunted by a ghost? And no I don't mean the way Africa is haunted by the ghosts of imperialism. I mean an actual literal ghost. How do I determine if my ghost is malicious or benevolent? | What is the best course of action to take when one is being haunted by a ghost? And no I don't mean the way Africa is haunted by the ghosts of imperialism. I mean an actual literal ghost. How do I determine if my ghost is malicious or benevolent? |
Mildred_Hubble, what is the best course of action to take when one's Guardian coQ&A is haunted by one assiduous but tonally wily commenter? And no I don't mean the way the Guardian website is haunted by internet trolls. I mean an actual, interesting, curious person whose comments vacillate between all seriousness and total irony? How do I determine if my ghost is malicious or benevolent? | Mildred_Hubble, what is the best course of action to take when one's Guardian coQ&A is haunted by one assiduous but tonally wily commenter? And no I don't mean the way the Guardian website is haunted by internet trolls. I mean an actual, interesting, curious person whose comments vacillate between all seriousness and total irony? How do I determine if my ghost is malicious or benevolent? |
Great question. I'm glad you made it here for the chat. My mother once told me, when I was afraid to stay alone in a house we had recently moved to - twice the size of the previous one - if there really was a ghost, I could do nothing to run away from it anyway. "Ka tsaya ku yi dialogue kawai," she said. Meaning, just face it and dialogue. | Great question. I'm glad you made it here for the chat. My mother once told me, when I was afraid to stay alone in a house we had recently moved to - twice the size of the previous one - if there really was a ghost, I could do nothing to run away from it anyway. "Ka tsaya ku yi dialogue kawai," she said. Meaning, just face it and dialogue. |
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Touché | Touché |
What's the tallest building in Wichita? | What's the tallest building in Wichita? |
aleatico, what's the tallest building in Lusaka? | aleatico, what's the tallest building in Lusaka? |
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Creative writing classes - good or bad? | Creative writing classes - good or bad? |
University jobs teaching creative writing - Are there many in Africa? Are they good or bad for writing? | University jobs teaching creative writing - Are there many in Africa? Are they good or bad for writing? |
There aren't enough in South Africa. | There aren't enough in South Africa. |
I don't think it's possible for writing programs to be bad for writing. | I don't think it's possible for writing programs to be bad for writing. |
Hi Petepetepete - Jobs or MFAs? Can't answer about the jobs in Africa, but there are lots of online or low-residency MFAs you can do without leaving home - a good one is the MFA in Creative Writing at The University of British Columbia (Canada). Good or bad for one's? Depends what you want out of it and how you use it, and also how well it's run. | Hi Petepetepete - Jobs or MFAs? Can't answer about the jobs in Africa, but there are lots of online or low-residency MFAs you can do without leaving home - a good one is the MFA in Creative Writing at The University of British Columbia (Canada). Good or bad for one's? Depends what you want out of it and how you use it, and also how well it's run. |
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Structure and timing | Structure and timing |
How do you think about time when you structure your stories? Do your decisions about time and structure relate to the larger political/historical realities your stories gesture to? | How do you think about time when you structure your stories? Do your decisions about time and structure relate to the larger political/historical realities your stories gesture to? |
This was something I struggled with and I'm still not sure I got it right. The actual time that passes in my story is a single evening, but within that there are flashbacks to the past and suggestions of the future. As far as gesturing to the larger political and historical realities, I was trying to bring to the story all the weight that the past would bring to bear on this particular evening. So that is echoed somewhat in the structure. | This was something I struggled with and I'm still not sure I got it right. The actual time that passes in my story is a single evening, but within that there are flashbacks to the past and suggestions of the future. As far as gesturing to the larger political and historical realities, I was trying to bring to the story all the weight that the past would bring to bear on this particular evening. So that is echoed somewhat in the structure. |
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Africa and the diaspora | Africa and the diaspora |
how many of you still live in Africa ... | how many of you still live in Africa ... |
I live in South Africa. | I live in South Africa. |
I have not lived in South Africa since I was a small child. That's an interesting question, because the remit of the Caine Prize encompasses both those in Africa and the African diaspora. | I have not lived in South Africa since I was a small child. That's an interesting question, because the remit of the Caine Prize encompasses both those in Africa and the African diaspora. |
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Greece | Greece |
But what about Greece? | But what about Greece? |
Yeah. Why, after more than 40 years of "aid" is Africa still an economic basket case with much of the population of several countries continually falling in to famine and starvation? | Yeah. Why, after more than 40 years of "aid" is Africa still an economic basket case with much of the population of several countries continually falling in to famine and starvation? |
Recte_Erras, why after centuries of being the seat of civilization, the origin of democracy, and the birthplace of theater, is Greece an economic basket case? | Recte_Erras, why after centuries of being the seat of civilization, the origin of democracy, and the birthplace of theater, is Greece an economic basket case? |
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Do your books start debate? | Do your books start debate? |
I am sorry to say that I have not read any of your books, but it is good to hear about you. I am a fan of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. So I will be looking out for your books.here my questions:Do the national curriculums in your countries include the reading of your works in school? And if so, do you think that your writing sparks debates? | I am sorry to say that I have not read any of your books, but it is good to hear about you. I am a fan of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. So I will be looking out for your books.here my questions:Do the national curriculums in your countries include the reading of your works in school? And if so, do you think that your writing sparks debates? |
No, but my debut novel, The Reactive, was only released in October last year, so perhaps it's too early to say. | No, but my debut novel, The Reactive, was only released in October last year, so perhaps it's too early to say. |
My story, Space, however, has been prescribed as a text at the University of Cape Town and at a college in San Bruno, California. | My story, Space, however, has been prescribed as a text at the University of Cape Town and at a college in San Bruno, California. |
I would like to imagine that my writing encourages debate. | I would like to imagine that my writing encourages debate. |
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Race and colonialism | Race and colonialism |
Is it possible to write a great African novel that ignores issues of race/ colonialism? Do you think such a novel would find it harder to achieve international popularity/ acclaim? | Is it possible to write a great African novel that ignores issues of race/ colonialism? Do you think such a novel would find it harder to achieve international popularity/ acclaim? |
I think this would depend on what's meant by great, the particular perimeters set aside for the project. If we take on the conventional understanding of the word, however (or at least as far as my own experiences will let me) I can't recall any novel evaluated as great that doesn't take on as considerations either the human experience or history of its region. | I think this would depend on what's meant by great, the particular perimeters set aside for the project. If we take on the conventional understanding of the word, however (or at least as far as my own experiences will let me) I can't recall any novel evaluated as great that doesn't take on as considerations either the human experience or history of its region. |
I think all writing is informed and coloured by the political realities of its setting. I don't think good writing, especially writing focused on place, can totally ignore its political history. Even if it is not explicitly dealt with, its traces will be present. So in a sense, no. | I think all writing is informed and coloured by the political realities of its setting. I don't think good writing, especially writing focused on place, can totally ignore its political history. Even if it is not explicitly dealt with, its traces will be present. So in a sense, no. |
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More on magic | More on magic |
If you had a magical ability (different from a superpower, obviously) what would it be and do you think there would be consequences that went along with using it? | If you had a magical ability (different from a superpower, obviously) what would it be and do you think there would be consequences that went along with using it? |
Probably to eradicate the destructive gene in humans that seems to constantly rear its ugly head despite the so-called lessons of history - the world wars, Biafra, Vietnam... | Probably to eradicate the destructive gene in humans that seems to constantly rear its ugly head despite the so-called lessons of history - the world wars, Biafra, Vietnam... |
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A writer, full stop | A writer, full stop |
What would you say is the ratio of questions you get about "African writing" or being an "African writer" to the number of questions you get about your own, individual writing? Or just about being a writer, full-stop? And what, in your opinion, could a publication like The Guardian have done to correct this disparity? | What would you say is the ratio of questions you get about "African writing" or being an "African writer" to the number of questions you get about your own, individual writing? Or just about being a writer, full-stop? And what, in your opinion, could a publication like The Guardian have done to correct this disparity? |
I'd say it's 50/50, so far. I'm not a Caine Prize veteran like Segun, Elnathan and Namwali but I've noticed that at readings the questions from those who have heard and read the stories tend to be about the writing. Journalists tend to be more interested in questions about African writing and being an African writer. | I'd say it's 50/50, so far. I'm not a Caine Prize veteran like Segun, Elnathan and Namwali but I've noticed that at readings the questions from those who have heard and read the stories tend to be about the writing. Journalists tend to be more interested in questions about African writing and being an African writer. |