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| Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion: Premier League – live! | Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion: Premier League – live! |
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| 3.17pm GMT15:17 | |
| 17 min: Just wide from Juan Mata! Schweini found Rooney, who rolled Evans and found Mata free on the right-hand edge of the penalty box, but his left-footed curler was inches past the post. Good effort, though, and a good ball from Rooney. | |
| 3.16pm GMT15:16 | |
| 16 min: Dawson does well to dispossess Lingard and find Rondon, but again, Smalling is across. Rondon is game, but he’s so isolated. | |
| 3.13pm GMT15:13 | |
| 13 min: United are on top here, and Schweinsteiger and Carrick have seen a lot of the ball, but West Brom have nine players strung across the edge of the box, and there’s hardly any space to play in the penalty area. | |
| Updated at 3.15pm GMT | |
| 3.11pm GMT15:11 | |
| 11 min: United’s best move of the game, and Martial and Lingard were involved, releasing Rojo down the left, and his ball in was terrific, but no United player had burst into the area. A shame. | |
| 3.09pm GMT15:09 | |
| 9 min: Fletcher looks for Rondon over the top, in the inside-right channel, but Smalling does really well one-on-one to win it and stride clear. Top defending. | |
| 3.08pm GMT15:08 | |
| 8 min: West Brom have started in markedly defensive fashion. I don’t think it’ll be another 5-3. | |
| 3.06pm GMT15:06 | |
| 6 min: Lingard has actually started on the left. Maybe he can get at Dawson, who’s not really a natural full-back. | |
| Here’s Christopher Dale: “Since when has Carrick been maligned? He’s been Utd’s most consistent player for about four seasons. Rooney, by contrast, has been consistently poor since about 2012, and is only just beginning to receive even a fraction of the scrutiny he deserves.” | |
| 3.04pm GMT15:04 | |
| 4 min: Young gives it away to McClean with a poor crossfield pass, but West Brom have so few players in advanced positions McClean has no one to pass to, and the move breaks down. | |
| 3.03pm GMT15:03 | |
| 3 min: Ashley Young continues at right-back for United. Matteo Darmian is suspended, so it figures, I guess, but is Young, at 30, really able to be converted into a full-back? | |
| 3.01pm GMT15:01 | |
| And we're off | |
| 1 min: United kick off, and within 25 seconds McClean is very late on Blind. That was a clear yellow! But no card from Mike Dean. Hmm. | |
| 3.00pm GMT15:00 | |
| A minute’s silence for Remembrance Day. Impeccably observed. | |
| 2.59pm GMT14:59 | |
| Not long now. Here’s Ray Reardon: ‘You are missing and Man U are missing their attacking left back Luke Shaw who actually made them go forward.” | |
| Yep, what a shame for Shaw. He carries the ball so well, doesn’t he? I hope he recovers OK. | |
| 2.58pm GMT14:58 | |
| Teams are emerging at Old Trafford. The United mascot, Fred the Red, accompanies Louis van Gaal to the dugout. Two guys. One red-faced and chubby. The other Fred the Red. Zing! | |
| Updated at 3.05pm GMT | |
| 2.55pm GMT14:55 | |
| Here’s a good one: Man United have made just 81 chances in their 11 matches – the lowest in the Premier League. Maybe that’s why Carrick is back in the team: maligned though he is, he does look to pass forward. | |
| 2.40pm GMT14:40 | 2.40pm GMT14:40 |
| I’ve watched Man United a few times this season, and although results have been good, they’ve got some issues. Here’s what I think they need: | I’ve watched Man United a few times this season, and although results have been good, they’ve got some issues. Here’s what I think they need: |
| Anything I’ve missed? | Anything I’ve missed? |
| 2.34pm GMT14:34 | 2.34pm GMT14:34 |
| Bournemouth are about to lose again, undeservedly, by all accounts. They’re in stoppage time: | Bournemouth are about to lose again, undeservedly, by all accounts. They’re in stoppage time: |
| Related: Bournemouth v Newcastle United: Premier League – live! | Related: Bournemouth v Newcastle United: Premier League – live! |
| 2.32pm GMT14:32 | 2.32pm GMT14:32 |
| So a couple of changes for Man United: Michael Carrick comes in for Schneiderlin in midfield, and Jesse Lingard replaces Ander Herrera, meaning Mata, presumably, will play in that No10 position. | So a couple of changes for Man United: Michael Carrick comes in for Schneiderlin in midfield, and Jesse Lingard replaces Ander Herrera, meaning Mata, presumably, will play in that No10 position. |
| For the Baggies, just one change, I make it, from the team that lost at home to Leicester: James Morrison comes in for Saido Berahino, with Salomon Rondon, the Venezuelan, the lone man up front. | For the Baggies, just one change, I make it, from the team that lost at home to Leicester: James Morrison comes in for Saido Berahino, with Salomon Rondon, the Venezuelan, the lone man up front. |
| 2.29pm GMT14:29 | 2.29pm GMT14:29 |
| Teams | Teams |
| Man Utd: De Gea, Young, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Mata, Rooney, Lingard, Martial. Subs: Jones, Depay, Romero, Ander Herrera, Schneiderlin, Andreas Pereira, Jackson. | Man Utd: De Gea, Young, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Mata, Rooney, Lingard, Martial. Subs: Jones, Depay, Romero, Ander Herrera, Schneiderlin, Andreas Pereira, Jackson. |
| West Brom: Myhill, Dawson, McAuley, Evans, Brunt, Morrison, Yacob, Fletcher, McClean, Sessegnon, Rondon. Subs: Olsson, Chester, Gardner, Lambert, Berahino, McManaman, Lindegaard. | West Brom: Myhill, Dawson, McAuley, Evans, Brunt, Morrison, Yacob, Fletcher, McClean, Sessegnon, Rondon. Subs: Olsson, Chester, Gardner, Lambert, Berahino, McManaman, Lindegaard. |
| Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral) | Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral) |
| 2.26pm GMT14:26 | 2.26pm GMT14:26 |
| Hello and welcome | Hello and welcome |
| The once-great stylists are in a stodgy phase: they need a victory today after a couple of weeks that haven’t been all that easy on the eye. But enough about West Brom! (Honk!) Man United have been grim recently, too, although they look solid enough defensively. This game could be a classic, but let’s be real here: t’s more likely to be an low-scoring bore. Join us at 10am ET, 3pm BST. | The once-great stylists are in a stodgy phase: they need a victory today after a couple of weeks that haven’t been all that easy on the eye. But enough about West Brom! (Honk!) Man United have been grim recently, too, although they look solid enough defensively. This game could be a classic, but let’s be real here: t’s more likely to be an low-scoring bore. Join us at 10am ET, 3pm BST. |
| 8.51pm GMT20:51 | 8.51pm GMT20:51 |
| Tim will be here shortly. In the meantime here’s Daniel Taylor’s thoughts on discontent among United fans: | Tim will be here shortly. In the meantime here’s Daniel Taylor’s thoughts on discontent among United fans: |
| Amid all the rancour and frustration, it has almost seemed to go unnoticed during this jarring spell for Manchester United that Louis van Gaal’s team have now gone seven hours and 45 minutes since anybody scored past them. It is their best run, defensively, since 2008, even if it does not feel like a cause for great jubilation when we have to go back much further to find the last time a manager at Old Trafford faced so much open dissent. | Amid all the rancour and frustration, it has almost seemed to go unnoticed during this jarring spell for Manchester United that Louis van Gaal’s team have now gone seven hours and 45 minutes since anybody scored past them. It is their best run, defensively, since 2008, even if it does not feel like a cause for great jubilation when we have to go back much further to find the last time a manager at Old Trafford faced so much open dissent. |
| That eruption of anger when Van Gaal removed Anthony Martial during an uptight 1-0 win over CSKA Moscow to put on his “Plan B”, Marouane Fellaini, had been building slowly. “One win in six,” Andy Mitten, the editor of United We Stand, posted on Twitter after the prosaic goalless draw at Crystal Palace last weekend. “No goals scored in four of those games of largely entertainment-free football. It’s nowhere near good enough.” | That eruption of anger when Van Gaal removed Anthony Martial during an uptight 1-0 win over CSKA Moscow to put on his “Plan B”, Marouane Fellaini, had been building slowly. “One win in six,” Andy Mitten, the editor of United We Stand, posted on Twitter after the prosaic goalless draw at Crystal Palace last weekend. “No goals scored in four of those games of largely entertainment-free football. It’s nowhere near good enough.” |
| It also goes further back than just the last half-dozen games if the issue is about the team’s style, and the question of whether Van Gaal has to fit in with United’s traditions or the club have to fit in with him. For now, the answer was provided by the sulphurous reaction to Martial’s removal, and the chants that effectively called into question the Dutchman’s tactics. | It also goes further back than just the last half-dozen games if the issue is about the team’s style, and the question of whether Van Gaal has to fit in with United’s traditions or the club have to fit in with him. For now, the answer was provided by the sulphurous reaction to Martial’s removal, and the chants that effectively called into question the Dutchman’s tactics. |
| Sir Alex Ferguson once banned MUTV, United’s own channel, after one of its presenters had the temerity to express a preference for 4-4-2 rather than 4-5-1. Van Gaal has not reached that stage but he does not like being questioned in this manner and that leaves everything feeling very awkward given the way his philosophy is clearly grating with many fans. | Sir Alex Ferguson once banned MUTV, United’s own channel, after one of its presenters had the temerity to express a preference for 4-4-2 rather than 4-5-1. Van Gaal has not reached that stage but he does not like being questioned in this manner and that leaves everything feeling very awkward given the way his philosophy is clearly grating with many fans. |
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| Updated at 2.09pm GMT | Updated at 2.09pm GMT |