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| Republican Malcolm Turnbull to meet Prince Charles on dismissal anniversary – politics live | Republican Malcolm Turnbull to meet Prince Charles on dismissal anniversary – politics live |
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| 10.31pm GMT22:31 | |
| In case you missed it, Kevin Rudd called out Cardinal George Pell’s sceptical views on climate change. Delivering a speech to Melbourne University’s trinity college on Tuesday night, Rudd said that although Pell was perfectly entitled to express his views, it was high time his view was challenged – especially in the lead-up to the climate talks in Paris. | |
| In case you haven’t caught up with Pell’s statements, they include this cracker. | |
| In the past pagans sacrificed animals and even humans in vain attempts to placate capricious and cruel gods, while today they demand reductions in carbon emissions. | |
| Rudd has had enough, Lenore reports. | |
| After many years of silence in response to Cardinal Pell’s public critique of my government’s policy on climate change, the reason I have chosen to enter the debate now is, on the eve of the Paris conference, we once again enter into a critical time both for Australia and the world. | |
| It is, therefore, no small matter, at this most critical of times, for the ethical waters, at least in the community of faith, to be so deeply muddied by such radical climate change sceptics as Cardinal Pell, and for his commentary to go without challenge. Of course he is free to contribute to the public policy debate in any manner he wishes. But it is equally important, particularly now that Cardinal Pell has become a global figure, to have his ... statements on climate change challenged by others in the public space. It is high time his views were confronted head on. The stakes are now far too high for us all. | |
| Rudd noted Pell’s break with the views of the Pope Francis. | |
| The pope says the science on climate change is sufficiently clear. Cardinal Pell says it is not, and further that the purported science is without foundation. The pope says all of humanity faces a common ethical challenge to protect the planet from climate change. Because Cardinal Pell disputes the science, he says there is little if any ethical imperative at all. And on the question of the policy imperative, the pope speaks with urgency. Cardinal Pell describes policy measures as an unnecessary fad and an unacceptable cost to both companies and consumers. | |
| Updated at 10.36pm GMT | |
| 10.17pm GMT22:17 | |
| The former Christmas Island administrator, Jon Stanhope, has criticised federal government secrecy over the death of an asylum seeker, Fazel Chegeni, which sparked unrest at the island’s detention centre. | |
| Stanhope said if the death had been a traffic accident police would be open about it and would not cite the coroner’s involvement as an obstacle to discussing it. | |
| You know, it’s blatant nonsense to suggest that a politician can’t speak about the death of somebody within your care and control and custody, as a result of the need for the matter to be referred to the coroner. | |
| 10.05pm GMT22:05 | 10.05pm GMT22:05 |
| The house has started sitting. | The house has started sitting. |
| Tony Burke, Labor’s manager of business, fires a shot across the bow regarding citizenship legislation. He notes the bill is on the program and suggests, given Labor is still scrutinising it – including getting briefings – he hopes the government will allow it time. | |
| Today, we will see if it really is a new paradigm. | Today, we will see if it really is a new paradigm. |
| Updated at 10.25pm GMT | |
| 10.02pm GMT22:02 | 10.02pm GMT22:02 |
| Rosie Lewis at the Oz has an interesting insight into the change in Coalition approach since the dumping of Tony Abbott. | |
| Malcolm the Magnanimous has offered a special Senate crossbench meeting room on the first floor of Parliament House. Who knows what goes on in there? Bob Day probably gets out the guitar. Maybe Lambie kicks off her heels. Oh to be a fly on the wall. | |
| We’ve been given a meeting room on the Senate side with a very nice view – we’re delighted. We said, ‘Let’s invite the prime minister to come and have a chat’ and he didn’t hesitate, which was great. | |
| It’s definitely a milestone. It’s been a bit of a slog but I think in the last few weeks the reset button has been pressed and we start again. We’re off to a good start. | It’s definitely a milestone. It’s been a bit of a slog but I think in the last few weeks the reset button has been pressed and we start again. We’re off to a good start. |
| Updated at 10.24pm GMT | |
| 9.55pm GMT21:55 | 9.55pm GMT21:55 |
| Hello, Aus Senate tweeps. We love you, too. | |
| The #Senate will suspend today from 10.15 until 11.45 am to allow senators to attend #RemembranceDay services | The #Senate will suspend today from 10.15 until 11.45 am to allow senators to attend #RemembranceDay services |
| Updated at 10.23pm GMT | |
| 9.54pm GMT21:54 | 9.54pm GMT21:54 |
| How business is done. | How business is done. |
| There is going to be a whole lot of this today on the citizenship bill. This photo from yesterday by Lukas Coch of AAP shows the horse-trading that goes on to get legislation through. | |
| Updated at 10.22pm GMT | |
| 9.47pm GMT21:47 | 9.47pm GMT21:47 |
| Dutton expects a high court challenge to the dual nationals citizenship bill | |
| Notwithstanding the Remembrance day memorial service, the Government House business, the curtsying and chortling with the royals, there is some very serious business in the parliament. | |
| The citizenship amendment will come back to the house after the scrutiny of the parliamentary joint committee on intelligence and security (PJCIS). That committee heard the finest legal minds criticise the proposed legislation, which sought to strip citizenship from dual nationals for various offences. | |
| For example, the constitutional lawyer Prof George Williams described the bill as “one of the most poorly drafted” he had seen. He wasn’t talking fiddles around the edges. | |
| The bill lists three ways dual nationals can automatically lose Australian citizenship. First, a person renounces citizenship “by conduct” if they engage in terrorist activity. Second, if they go overseas to fight for foreign armies deemed enemies of Australia, or listed terrorist organisations. Third, if they are convicted of terrorism offences or “certain other offences” by an Australian court. | |
| When the committee finally reported, it suggested the government should strip dual nationals of citizenship for terrorist offences only after a conviction. | |
| But it recommended going ahead with provisions which would strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship fighting overseas without conviction. | |
| The committee also recommended retrospectively stripping Australian citizenship from those convicted of terrorist-related offences, although limiting it to those who had been sentenced to at least 10 years’ jail for those offences. | |
| So the bill has presumably been redrafted and Bill Shorten has told us this morning that Labor received a briefing on the (new) bill only last night. Labor wants more time to scrutinise it. | |
| As to constitutionality, the immigration minister, Peter Dutton, said he expected a high court challenge but the government had drafted it as well as it could. | |
| In these circumstances you would expect that there would be a high court challenge in relation to some aspects of the bill or the legislation at some stage ... From the government’s perspective, there is always a risk with any legislation, with any piece of national security legislation. We minimise that risk in this bill, and we believe we’ve struck a reasonable balance by accepting all the recommendations from the committee. | |
| The bill is listed for debate after question time, so we shall see what we shall see. Shorten said again, just this morning, that Labor delivered bipartisan support on national security issues and has done so for the first three. | |
| But he wants to be able to pick up any flaws in the bill and that needs time. | But he wants to be able to pick up any flaws in the bill and that needs time. |
| Dutton is stamping his feet. He wants the bill ticked off by the next week. | Dutton is stamping his feet. He wants the bill ticked off by the next week. |
| Debate will commence this week, and the government’s desire is that this bill be dealt with by both houses by the end of the next sitting week. | Debate will commence this week, and the government’s desire is that this bill be dealt with by both houses by the end of the next sitting week. |
| Updated at 10.20pm GMT | |
| 9.21pm GMT21:21 | 9.21pm GMT21:21 |
| Bill Shorten was only eight at the time of the dismissal but he has declared his support for a republic in previous speeches. | |
| Shorten would like to see a process which involves a constitutional convention, followed by a plebiscite to gauge the peoples’ reaction, followed by a referendum. | Shorten would like to see a process which involves a constitutional convention, followed by a plebiscite to gauge the peoples’ reaction, followed by a referendum. |
| He also told Fran Kelly on ABC Radio National that he would like to see a constitutional commission, which would be a permanent body which educates people about the constitution. | |
| Updated at 10.11pm GMT | |
| 9.03pm GMT21:03 | 9.03pm GMT21:03 |
| Good morning | Good morning |
| Strap yourself in for huge day in Canberra. | Strap yourself in for huge day in Canberra. |
| Best get on with this. Join us below or on the Twits with me @gabriellechan and @mpbowers, who is on full royal duty. I’m thinking a visual panoply of delights from the Bowers machine. | Best get on with this. Join us below or on the Twits with me @gabriellechan and @mpbowers, who is on full royal duty. I’m thinking a visual panoply of delights from the Bowers machine. |
| Updated at 10.11pm GMT |