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| At Iowa forum, Trump says we must 'bring jobs back' and 'build a wall' – as it happened | At Iowa forum, Trump says we must 'bring jobs back' and 'build a wall' – as it happened |
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| 11.20pm GMT | 11.20pm GMT |
| 23:20 | 23:20 |
| Wrap up of today in politics | Wrap up of today in politics |
| After major speeches from both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, an important vote on Capitol Hill and Donald Trump being himself in Iowa, this is what we’ve learned today. | After major speeches from both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, an important vote on Capitol Hill and Donald Trump being himself in Iowa, this is what we’ve learned today. |
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| at 11.22pm GMT | at 11.22pm GMT |
| 11.06pm GMT | 11.06pm GMT |
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| Trump makes clear “ I know Muslim people, they are phenomenal people, they are a really great people but they get tarnished by the acts of others” and goes on to warn about radical Islam. He also says of refugees, “these folks aren’t coming from Sweden.” | Trump makes clear “ I know Muslim people, they are phenomenal people, they are a really great people but they get tarnished by the acts of others” and goes on to warn about radical Islam. He also says of refugees, “these folks aren’t coming from Sweden.” |
| 11.03pm GMT | 11.03pm GMT |
| 23:03 | 23:03 |
| Trump says “I don’t think the caucuses are antiquated.” He pledges “if I win, the caucuses aren’t going anywhere.” | Trump says “I don’t think the caucuses are antiquated.” He pledges “if I win, the caucuses aren’t going anywhere.” |
| 11.03pm GMT | 11.03pm GMT |
| 23:03 | 23:03 |
| Trump now weighs in refugees. | Trump now weighs in refugees. |
| “I feel totally bad for them but at the same time we don’t know who they are and we don’t know here they come from. But at the same time I also feel bad for people in this country, you’ll have hundreds of thousands people coming in.” | “I feel totally bad for them but at the same time we don’t know who they are and we don’t know here they come from. But at the same time I also feel bad for people in this country, you’ll have hundreds of thousands people coming in.” |
| He thinks Syria will eventually be wonderful but, in the meantime, letting in refugees will be a “trojan horse.” | He thinks Syria will eventually be wonderful but, in the meantime, letting in refugees will be a “trojan horse.” |
| 10.52pm GMT | 10.52pm GMT |
| 22:52 | 22:52 |
| Trump on unions, “I’ve done it both ways.” | Trump on unions, “I’ve done it both ways.” |
| He notes that you need to work with unions in New York City but that he doesn’t do so in Florida which has a weak organized labor movement. Trump says “I’ve been able to live with unions but if I had my choice, I’d take it without [unions].” | He notes that you need to work with unions in New York City but that he doesn’t do so in Florida which has a weak organized labor movement. Trump says “I’ve been able to live with unions but if I had my choice, I’d take it without [unions].” |
| 10.51pm GMT | 10.51pm GMT |
| 22:51 | 22:51 |
| Trump says “I’m ok” with subsidies for wind energy. He adds “wind is very tough” to laughter. Trump notes that with oil prices falling, wind energy has become less competitive. He noted the wind energy needs subsidies which he’s ok with but expresses concern about it. Trump also expresses some wonder about the process of generating wind power. “It’s amazing to think out of the wind, you make energy.” | Trump says “I’m ok” with subsidies for wind energy. He adds “wind is very tough” to laughter. Trump notes that with oil prices falling, wind energy has become less competitive. He noted the wind energy needs subsidies which he’s ok with but expresses concern about it. Trump also expresses some wonder about the process of generating wind power. “It’s amazing to think out of the wind, you make energy.” |
| 10.45pm GMT | 10.45pm GMT |
| 22:45 | 22:45 |
| On the subject of equal pay for women, Trump praises his daughter Ivanka who he says is cutting a television ad for him in Georgia. | On the subject of equal pay for women, Trump praises his daughter Ivanka who he says is cutting a television ad for him in Georgia. |
| Trump says “if you say everyone gets equal pay, you’re getting away from the American Dream, you’re getting away from capitalism.” Instead, he says “people have to go out there and fight for themselves.” | Trump says “if you say everyone gets equal pay, you’re getting away from the American Dream, you’re getting away from capitalism.” Instead, he says “people have to go out there and fight for themselves.” |
| 10.43pm GMT | 10.43pm GMT |
| 22:43 | 22:43 |
| Trump is now praising the middle class and bemoaning those who he thinks got victimized the most in the economic downturn, those who saved. In Trump’s view, those who saved now get almost no interest from the banks and those who spent freely made deals with the banks. However, he pledges under his tax plan, “everyone will get a big, fat, beautiful deduction.” | Trump is now praising the middle class and bemoaning those who he thinks got victimized the most in the economic downturn, those who saved. In Trump’s view, those who saved now get almost no interest from the banks and those who spent freely made deals with the banks. However, he pledges under his tax plan, “everyone will get a big, fat, beautiful deduction.” |
| 10.36pm GMT | 10.36pm GMT |
| 22:36 | 22:36 |
| Trump gets a question about childcare and says “it’s not something you hear as much about.” The questioner says she doesn’t have kids and Trump jokes “now I feel better when I don’t give her much of an answer.” He talks about the childcare available at his businesses where the kids are called “Trumpeteers.” Trump adds childcare isn’t very expensive for businesses to provide “all you need is one or two people, some blocks and a swing.” | Trump gets a question about childcare and says “it’s not something you hear as much about.” The questioner says she doesn’t have kids and Trump jokes “now I feel better when I don’t give her much of an answer.” He talks about the childcare available at his businesses where the kids are called “Trumpeteers.” Trump adds childcare isn’t very expensive for businesses to provide “all you need is one or two people, some blocks and a swing.” |
| 10.33pm GMT | 10.33pm GMT |
| 22:33 | 22:33 |
| Matthew Teague | Matthew Teague |
| Meanwhile, in Alabama: Ben Carson enters the arena from the tunnel normally used by athletic teams, waving to an enthusiastic crowd of about 3,000. It’s a good crowd for 4:20 pm local time on a Thursday in Mobile. | Meanwhile, in Alabama: Ben Carson enters the arena from the tunnel normally used by athletic teams, waving to an enthusiastic crowd of about 3,000. It’s a good crowd for 4:20 pm local time on a Thursday in Mobile. |
| The crowd, though, is notably homogeneous; Mobile’s population is half black, but the audience is almost entirely white. | The crowd, though, is notably homogeneous; Mobile’s population is half black, but the audience is almost entirely white. |
| Carson knows his audience. He opened with a story about prayer. “I told God: ‘If you’ll open the doors, I’ll walk through them.’”Then he reminisced about how as a child he loved stories of missionary doctors, “the most noble people on the earth,” traveling the globe to bring “physical and spiritual healing.” | Carson knows his audience. He opened with a story about prayer. “I told God: ‘If you’ll open the doors, I’ll walk through them.’”Then he reminisced about how as a child he loved stories of missionary doctors, “the most noble people on the earth,” traveling the globe to bring “physical and spiritual healing.” |
| The last big candidate to pass through Mobile was Donald Trump, whose bombastic style riled his audience.Carson’s tone – and his crowd – are characteristically mellow. His biggest round of applause came on a note of indirect criticism about Obama. He listed a series of objectives an enemy of America might have, and finished with, “Any resemblance to what’s actually going on today is purely coincidental.” | The last big candidate to pass through Mobile was Donald Trump, whose bombastic style riled his audience.Carson’s tone – and his crowd – are characteristically mellow. His biggest round of applause came on a note of indirect criticism about Obama. He listed a series of objectives an enemy of America might have, and finished with, “Any resemblance to what’s actually going on today is purely coincidental.” |
| Overall, Carson is serving red meat in a red state. On the matter of government assistance, Carson said, people have misread the preamble to the constitution. “It says, ‘promote the general welfare.’ That doesn’t mean to put everybody on welfare.”Big applause. | Overall, Carson is serving red meat in a red state. On the matter of government assistance, Carson said, people have misread the preamble to the constitution. “It says, ‘promote the general welfare.’ That doesn’t mean to put everybody on welfare.”Big applause. |
| In closing, Carson cited Thomas Jefferson, saying that the founding father predicted America’s government would “expand and infiltrate, invade our lives and begin to dominate us.”But, he said, “Just before it was too late, the people would realize what was going on and they would rise up. I say this is that moment.”Loud whoops from the crowd, as Carson exited the stage. | In closing, Carson cited Thomas Jefferson, saying that the founding father predicted America’s government would “expand and infiltrate, invade our lives and begin to dominate us.”But, he said, “Just before it was too late, the people would realize what was going on and they would rise up. I say this is that moment.”Loud whoops from the crowd, as Carson exited the stage. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 11.00pm GMT | at 11.00pm GMT |
| 10.32pm GMT | 10.32pm GMT |
| 22:32 | 22:32 |
| Trump is now touting his tax plan as the cure to economic woes of struggling factory towns like Newton. The plan which involves major tax cuts across the board is available here. | Trump is now touting his tax plan as the cure to economic woes of struggling factory towns like Newton. The plan which involves major tax cuts across the board is available here. |
| 10.26pm GMT | 10.26pm GMT |
| 22:26 | 22:26 |
| Trump says “we are going to have to start a program” to help students with loans. He says the “one government program that the United States makes money off is student loans and that’s one that they shouldn’t make money off of.” Trump continues to talk about helping people refinance student loans but without getting into specifics. | Trump says “we are going to have to start a program” to help students with loans. He says the “one government program that the United States makes money off is student loans and that’s one that they shouldn’t make money off of.” Trump continues to talk about helping people refinance student loans but without getting into specifics. |
| 10.21pm GMT | 10.21pm GMT |
| 22:21 | 22:21 |
| Not everyone is getting to enjoy Trump’s town hall in Newton today. | Not everyone is getting to enjoy Trump’s town hall in Newton today. |
| Buzzfeed’s Evan McMorris-Santoro reports that he has been barred from the event on Twitter. | Buzzfeed’s Evan McMorris-Santoro reports that he has been barred from the event on Twitter. |
| Welp, I'm adding "barred from Donald Trump town hall in Newton Iowa" to the ol list of career accomplishments. (1/some) | Welp, I'm adding "barred from Donald Trump town hall in Newton Iowa" to the ol list of career accomplishments. (1/some) |
| McMorris-Santoro is not the first reporter to fall on Trump’s blacklist. After an editorial from the Des Moines Register that the real estate mogul objected to, his campaign has refused to credential any reporter from that outlet. | McMorris-Santoro is not the first reporter to fall on Trump’s blacklist. After an editorial from the Des Moines Register that the real estate mogul objected to, his campaign has refused to credential any reporter from that outlet. |
| 10.16pm GMT | 10.16pm GMT |
| 22:16 | 22:16 |
| Trump has been rising in the polls in recent days and he points to the terrorist attacks in Paris last Friday as one reason. “Now since Paris, people are really starting to like my hard line immigration,” he says. | Trump has been rising in the polls in recent days and he points to the terrorist attacks in Paris last Friday as one reason. “Now since Paris, people are really starting to like my hard line immigration,” he says. |
| 10.15pm GMT | 10.15pm GMT |
| 22:15 | 22:15 |
| In discussing Oreo cookies, Trump says “I could stand to lose some weight.” | In discussing Oreo cookies, Trump says “I could stand to lose some weight.” |
| 10.14pm GMT | 10.14pm GMT |
| 22:14 | 22:14 |
| Trump gets big applause from the room when he says “we’re going to build the wall.” He adds “walls work.” | Trump gets big applause from the room when he says “we’re going to build the wall.” He adds “walls work.” |
| 10.12pm GMT | 10.12pm GMT |
| 22:12 | 22:12 |
| When he’s asked about Newton’s economic issues, Trump says “I know something about this town because I saw 60 Minutes four or five years ago.” | When he’s asked about Newton’s economic issues, Trump says “I know something about this town because I saw 60 Minutes four or five years ago.” |
| 10.11pm GMT | 10.11pm GMT |
| 22:11 | 22:11 |
| Trump’s first question is about how he can emphasize with those struggling to pay the rent and feed their families. He starts off by mentioning the financial downturn in the 1990s, when his real estate empire experienced serious losses. Trump then segues into the passage in his stump speech where he argues the unemployment rate is far higher than the government claims. | Trump’s first question is about how he can emphasize with those struggling to pay the rent and feed their families. He starts off by mentioning the financial downturn in the 1990s, when his real estate empire experienced serious losses. Trump then segues into the passage in his stump speech where he argues the unemployment rate is far higher than the government claims. |
| 10.09pm GMT | 10.09pm GMT |
| 22:09 | 22:09 |
| And only a few minutes late, Trump arrives on stage in Iowa to a crowd of about 300 attendees who will question him about job creation and the economy. | And only a few minutes late, Trump arrives on stage in Iowa to a crowd of about 300 attendees who will question him about job creation and the economy. |