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Republican debate: Trump benefit goes toe to toe with main event – live updates Republican debate live: candidates set to spar as Trump tries to steal the show
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Tom McCarthy
Bush is asked about his status as an establishment figure, and whether the division of the establishment has enabled the rise of outsiders.
“We’re just starting. The first vote hasn’t been cast yet. Let’s let the process play out,” Bush says.
Then, unprompted: “I kind of miss Donald Trump. He was such a teddy bear to me. ... Everyone else was in the witness protection program when I went after him.”
Bush is branding himself as the candidate who had the guts to take on Trump.
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Tom McCarthy
Rubio gets the ball. He is asked about unifying the Republican party.
The election’s not about Trump! Rubio says, bringing up Trump himself.
“He’s an entertaining guy, he’s the greatest show on Earth.”
But the election is about replacing Barack Obama, a “disaster”, Rubio says.
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Mona Chalabi
I miss clap-o-meters
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Tom McCarthy
Cruz is asked about the fight that’s broken out between him and Trump.
“If Donald engages in insults or anybody else, I do not intend to reciprocate ... To every Donald Trump voter or potential voter, I hope to earn your support,” he says.
Cruz says “policies and vision and record should be the meat of politics,” not personal insults.
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Cruz slams Trump
Tom McCarthy
First question is to Cruz, and about Trump: what does his absence say to Iowa voters?
Cruz starts out by thanking Iowans. “If I’m elected president, keep an eye on the tarmac, because I’ll be back.”
I’m a maniac, and everyone on this stage is stupid, fat and ugly. And Ben, you’re a terrible surgeon. And now that we’ve got the Donald Trump portion out of the way, I want to thank everyone on this stage for showing the respect to show up and make their cases to the people of Iowa.
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And here are all the top-tier Republicans... except one #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/FoaNTAuJAz
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02:03
The crowd cheerfully claps for the participants. Rand Paul is applauded wildly – he apparently brought his fan base. Baier says the crowd is very excited to be here. He gets claps and whoops.
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02:01
Republican debate begins
Here we are, back inside the Iowa Events Center. The moderators are Bret Baier, Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace. We are about to meet the candidates. Seven onstage. No empty lectern awaiting Trump.
1.59am GMT
01:59
Scott Bixby
Attendees of Donald Trump’s anti-debate event are now listening to “The Playlist,” the well-documented music set list that plays before every one of Trump’s campaign events. Comprised primarily of classic rock tunes with a smattering of Adele, Puccini arias and Broadway standards from Andrew Lloyd Webber’s CATS, the set typically plays on loop as crowds await an appearance by Trump.
Here at the Guardian’s campaign liveblog - where the campaign trail comes alive! - we bring you the chance to experience the set list from the comfort of your homes.
A special thanks from seven-time Tony winner Lloyd Webber.
1.58am GMT
01:58
Tom McCarthy
You asked, we answered.
Google trends is tracking the top questions about Jeb Bush posed to Google in advance of tonight’s main event debate, which is scheduled to start in about a half hour.
See the top trending questions on @JebBush before the #GOPDebate https://t.co/gmZioSFk5K pic.twitter.com/FZsXfKCWAH
Let’s give these a crack.
1. 62. He turns 63 on 11 February, in a couple weeks, two days after New Hampshire.
2. Yes. Opposes abortion except in cases of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is at stake.
3. Well, do you mean George W. Bush, or George HW Bush?
4. LOL
5. Has Jeb! really Googled this enough times for it to trend?
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01:54
Tom McCarthy
Tonight’s debate is in the Iowa Events Center in Des Moines, Iowa. Here are the participants in tonight’s main event debate, in alphabetical order.
Who: The main event features:
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01:52
Main event debate to begin
Tom McCarthy
For readers playing through and for those of you just joining us – welcome! to our live-wire coverage of the seventh Republican presidential debate, plus Donald Trump’s parallel competing event.
The non-Trump Republicans are scrambling for position in second place as the Iowa caucuses loom, just four days out now. Tonight watch for aggressive closing arguments from Texas senator Ted Cruz, who is clinging closest to Trump in the Hawkeye state and Florida senator Marco Rubio, who’s in third, according to polling averages.
But tonight’s the night for the candidates to leave nothing on the table. Former Florida governor Jeb Bush is facing what has at times appeared to be the sunset of his candidacy. New Jersey governor Chris Christie will continue to make a hard sell to New Hampshire voters. And Ohio governor John Kasich has shown some life in the Granite state.
Meanwhile, there’s Trump, who’s tweaking Fox News by boycotting their spectacle and mounting his own. It’s hard to talk of expectations where Trump is concerned. What we can expect is a unique spectacle in American politics, an election front-runner abandoning the field and striking off alone.
Thanks for joining us!
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01:50
Sabrina Siddiqui
Donald Trump may not be participating in tonight’s debate, but the Republican frontrunner remains the talk of the town as candidates prepare to take the stage in Des Moines.
Trump’s ongoing battle with Fox News remains at the forefront of media coverage, with the real estate mogul announcing just now on CNN that the network had apologized to him. He will nonetheless hold on to his pledge to skip the debate, a move that could steer significant attention away from Trump’s opponents, who are looking to distinguish themselves in his absence.
All eyes are particularly on Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, the two first-term senators who are polling behind Trump both nationally and in the early states. Cruz is hoping to seal the deal with undecided caucus-goers in Iowa, where he has invested heavily for his grassroots campaign.
Rubio goes into this debate having been on the receiving end of close to $25m in attack ads by his opponents - more than any other candidate in the race - and he will likely have the largest target on his back. Other so-called establishment candidates believe they must knock the Florida senator out to gain traction as a viable alternative to Trump and Cruz.
Rand Paul will also return to the stage, having been forced out of the previous debate due to low polling.
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01:50
Scott Bixby
In a just-aired interview with CNN, Donald Trump told the cable news network that an unnamed figure at Fox News “apologized” to the billionaire frontrunner for a “wise-guy” press release that the network released earlier this week.
“I was treated very unfairly by Fox. Since then they’ve been excellent, they’ve been very nice, but it’s too late,” Trump told CNN’s Brianna Keilar in an interview aboard his private plane.
“I wanted to fight for myself just like I’ll fight for the country,” Trump said. “You have to stick up for yourself, you have to fight for yourself and you have to fight for your country.”
In the interview, Trump declared that despite the alleged apology, he would continue with his plans to host a counter-programmed benefit/fundraiser/rally/anti-debate three miles from the debate hall.
1.43am GMT
01:43
Scott Bixby
Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, fresh off of his (potentially final) Republican presidential primary debate performance, has officially made it to Donald Trump’s campaign rally-slash-military fundraiser at Drake University.
Huckabee waiting in the wings. #notthedebate pic.twitter.com/BIsINi0aqd
Huckabee, winners of the 2008 Iowa caucuses, told the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman that he would attend the event after participating in tonight’s undercard debate on Fox News purely to support US veterans. Huckabee further clarified that his attendance is “not an endorsement of Trump’s candidacy,” telling CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that he’s “still running for president.”
Or, at least, until the results of Monday’s caucuses come in.
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01:41
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush keeps his eyes on the opposition – not meaning Trump:
The best poster to see before tonight’s #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/BhxFZVRJwG
1.40am GMT
01:40
Mona Chalabi
While we’re warming up for the main show, the O’Reilly Factor on Fox News is talking about the importance of name recognition. But face recognition can matter too for these debates and a poll by Vox and Morning Consult suggests that Trump and Clinton are well ahead of their peers on that measure.
Of the 2,028 registered voters they polled, 97% correctly identified Hillary Clinton when shown a picture of her face and 96% identified Trump.
Bernie Sanders only managed 69%. His fellow Democrat Martin O’Malley was correctly identified by 30% and Republican John Kasich by a measly 34%.
1.37am GMT
01:37
Lucia Graves
Carly Fiorina said some pretty offensive things about Hillary Clinton that were sexist and disappointing – especially coming from another woman, writes Lucia Graves.
Fiorina was asked about her earlier comment: “Unlike the other woman candidate in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband.”
It’s disappointing when people make sexist attacks on Hillary Clinton. It’s especially disappointing when the person making those attacks is the only other woman running for president.
Fiorina is doing text book stuff: attacking Clinton’s personal choice to stick by her husband in the face of his infidelities and, basically, accusing her of being ambitious.
“Hillary Clinton has been climbing the ladder to try to get power, and here now she is trying for the White House, she is probably more qualified for the big house,” Fiorina said on Fox News. “She’s escaped prosecution more times than El Chapo ... ”
Skipping over the part where she compares Clinton to a recently recaptured Mexican drug lord, let’s take a closer look at why in 2015 we think it’s OK to attack the only woman who has had a serious shot at the presidency for being ambitious.
Every single person running for president is ambitious; it comes with the territory ... But you won’t hear any one accusing Donald Trump of “climbing the ladder”. No, that’s an attack specifically reserved for women.
And Fiorina, who has repeatedly endured gendered attacks herself – think of the time Trump made fun of her face – should know better. I’m not holding her to a higher standard. Just to her own.
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Tom McCarthyTom McCarthy
You asked, we answered.You asked, we answered.
Google trends is tracking the top questions about Donald Trump posed to Google in advance of tonight’s main event debate, which is scheduled to start in about a half hour.Google trends is tracking the top questions about Donald Trump posed to Google in advance of tonight’s main event debate, which is scheduled to start in about a half hour.
Here are the top trending questions on @realDonaldTrump ahead of the #GOPDebate https://t.co/gmZioSFk5K pic.twitter.com/kWxExthLEKHere are the top trending questions on @realDonaldTrump ahead of the #GOPDebate https://t.co/gmZioSFk5K pic.twitter.com/kWxExthLEK
Let’s give these a crack.Let’s give these a crack.
1. Because he could.1. Because he could.
2. All of them except for Fox?2. All of them except for Fox?
3. Are you kidding? The networks broadcast his every phone call. When there’s not even a picture.3. Are you kidding? The networks broadcast his every phone call. When there’s not even a picture.
4. Let’s go to the tape:4. Let’s go to the tape:
5. No.5. No.
Trump campaign just confirmed to me that he WILL NOT participate in Fox News debate tonightTrump campaign just confirmed to me that he WILL NOT participate in Fox News debate tonight
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01:2401:24
Ben JacobsBen Jacobs
Donald Trump is holding an event next week in a state that is not holding a primary anytime in the near future. The Republican frontrunner will be headed to Little Rock, Arkansas, on Wednesday.Donald Trump is holding an event next week in a state that is not holding a primary anytime in the near future. The Republican frontrunner will be headed to Little Rock, Arkansas, on Wednesday.
The event, combined with former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee’s appearance at Trump’s event tonight, will be sure to get tongues wagging about whether the Republican candidate might drop out and endorse Trump there. Huckabee has set his hopes on a strong performance in Iowa, but the former Iowa caucus winner has been lagging in the polls in the Hawkeye State.The event, combined with former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee’s appearance at Trump’s event tonight, will be sure to get tongues wagging about whether the Republican candidate might drop out and endorse Trump there. Huckabee has set his hopes on a strong performance in Iowa, but the former Iowa caucus winner has been lagging in the polls in the Hawkeye State.
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Ben JacobsBen Jacobs
The concert hall where the Trump event is taking place is an old-fashioned venue with red velvet curtains and wooden chairs and is filling up with a mix of Trump supporters and veterans. The headgear is a blend of Make America Great Again hats and caps representing various American Legion posts that veterans belong to and naval ships which they served on.The concert hall where the Trump event is taking place is an old-fashioned venue with red velvet curtains and wooden chairs and is filling up with a mix of Trump supporters and veterans. The headgear is a blend of Make America Great Again hats and caps representing various American Legion posts that veterans belong to and naval ships which they served on.
Many attendees had come from out of state to be there like Doug Banker, a Marine veteran from Los Angeles. The long haired bearded veteran was sitting calmly wearing a white and gold Make America Great Again hat and checkered blue suit. He had flown out to Des Moines to support his fellow veterans at the event.Many attendees had come from out of state to be there like Doug Banker, a Marine veteran from Los Angeles. The long haired bearded veteran was sitting calmly wearing a white and gold Make America Great Again hat and checkered blue suit. He had flown out to Des Moines to support his fellow veterans at the event.
Banker, a conservative who wasn’t committed to supporting Trump, though the real estate mogul’s decision to boycott the debate could be a good thing. It showed Trump “was not going to give into Fox News and what not and to what everyone expects.”Banker, a conservative who wasn’t committed to supporting Trump, though the real estate mogul’s decision to boycott the debate could be a good thing. It showed Trump “was not going to give into Fox News and what not and to what everyone expects.”
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From the comments / who won the undercard?
Tom McCarthy
You’ve weighed in – some of you - on the undercard victor. But browsing through the comments in fact there is not a rich store of enthusiasm for any of the candidates onstage tonight. Or for their positions. Or anything about them, really.
Here’s a sampler:
I'm all for Gilmore, Schrödinger's candidate.
Both of these events are right wing pantomimes with no intellectual worth.
The moderators are the only possible undercard winners. If they do well, Megyn and Trump will both look silly in comparison.The main debate will surprise almost everyone by making the leftovers appear almost palatable - if they all resist the temptation of taking potshots at Trump.
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That’s it. The undercard is over. Who won? We’re joining you below the line right now.
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Mona Chalabi
Fiorina took a swipe at Hillary Clinton when she said that she would never forgive her husband if he did what Bill Clinton did. We assume that’s a reference to Clinton’s infidelity rather than that time he laughed his head off with Yeltsin.
A lot of Americans would say the same as Fiorina. In Gallup survey in 2008, 38% of respondents said they would not forgive a spouse who had a sexual affair with someone else and 26% said they would probably not forgive.
Maybe Fiorina would think differently if she was born under a different red, white and blue flag. A Pew survey in 2014 found that the French were the least likely to say “married people having an affair is morally unacceptable” - only 47% of French respondents agreed with the statement compared to 84% of people in the US and 92% in Pakistan.
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Closing statements
Tom McCarthy
Gilmore: Son of a meatcutter and a secretary. My father talked character. I’m not about to go across town tonight and carry the coat for some billionaire. Second amendment.
Santorum: Thanks to the people of Iowa. I have done 700 (million) events here. A pastor gave me a stone to slay Goliath. Good people of Iowa: pick the leader you know is best.
Huckabee: This week people thought my Adele video was bad (or did he say there was a “dust-up” over the video). So: “Hello, Iowa, it’s me. You know me.” I won here in 2008. Vote me.
Fiorina: I have come to know and love the people of Iowa. We need a citizen government. Stand with me, fight with me, caucus for me.
12.58am GMT
00:58
Jeb Lund
Some of the candidates in the kid’s table debate are clearly touchy about being ignored. Jeb Lund thinks they need to get over it.
The undercard debate should be renamed the H Ross Perot Memorial Can I Finish? Can I Finish? Can I Finish? Debate. I think at least one quarter of all comments addressed to the moderators and America so far have been about the candidates’ inability to deliver comments to America.
Now, that’s actually a somewhat fair complaint from someone like Rick Santorum, who has been written off by the media as a failure at the expense of Donald Trump, who is inevitably entertaining. But it’s pretty rich coming from Jim Gilmore, who I’m willing to believe has hosted only one campaign event, which was seeing for how long he could eat the unlimited appetizers at TGI Fridays. (The potato skins.)
12.54am GMT
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Mona Chalabi
On abortion, these Republican candidates are largely trying to speak to the estimated 44% of Americans who describe themselves as “pro-life” according to Gallup’s data.
For the past 15 years, though the percentages have wobbled, the overall picture remains the same: America is deeply divided on the issue.
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Final commercial break in the undercard. Last chance: Who, if not Gilmore, is winning the undercard ?
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Tom McCarthy
Santorum says Obama is the “most divisive president” in his lifetime. “He personally attacks people... and then he tears them down,” Santorum says.
Santorum says that when he was in Washington he passed “a whole laundry list of things... because I was able to be respectful in disagreements.”
12.51am GMT
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Tom McCarthy
Huckabee is asked about Democrats who identify as socialist. “Guess you could say they’re feeling the Bern!” says Hemmer, the moderator.
He is rightly and justly booed.
“I honestly don’t understand how anybody with an IQ above plant life would think we’d be better off if we let the government have all the property...” Huckabee says.
I’m not feelin’ the Bern, Bill.
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00:51
Against all odds, presidential candidate Jim Gilmore is trending nationwide on Twitter.
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Jeb Lund
This election has been turned on its head by populists. Jeb Lund takes a look at which candidates are best at talking to the people.
Santorum is a good populist. Apart from Trump’s defense of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, he and Huckabee are the strongest on this issue. He really genuinely wants to bring back a functional economy for high-school graduates in rust belt America, where you can buy a house and send your kids to college.
It’s just that he’s still a Republican, so in spite of diagnosing the disease, all his cures are still poison. A flat tax, and tax repatriation are going to be great for rich guys, but the annual savings from both aren’t going to offset the fact that Santorum is talking about $20/hour jobs with benefits that you can fill in China for $2/hour and a handful of dust.
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Tom McCarthy
There it is: the Gilmore Google spike.
This just in: searches for @gov_gilmore are up 700% during the early #GOPdebate. pic.twitter.com/hH40gB6vsd
12.48am GMT
00:48
Tom McCarthy
Santorum is asked why he did not attend this year’s March for Life, the anti-abortion rally. He says he’s been the last 20 years but it was snowing a bunch this year so he skipped.
“Twice in my life we were counseled to have an abortion,” says Santorum, whose youngest daughter, Bella, has a rare genetic disorder. He says he and his wife never once considered it.
Then Fiorina jumps in on Santorum’s side.
It is outrageous, frankly, that Fox News, and you, would question the pro-life credentials of Rick Santorum. That is outrageous.
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Tom McCarthy
Fiorina says that most Americans find Clinton’s and the Democratic party’s position on abortion “horrific.” She says as president she would fund women’s health.
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Fiorina: 'If my husband did what Bill Clinton did, I would have left him long ago'
Tom McCarthy
They’re back. Question for Fiorina. She had said, “Unlike the other woman candidate in this race, I actually love spending time with my husband.” Why didn’t she stick with an earlier vow not to level personal attacks?
“It wasn’t a personal attack. I was pointing out the fact that Hillary Clinton will do anything to gain and hang on to power,” Fiorina says.
If my husband did what Bill Clinton did, I would have left him long ago.
Then she gets off some Clinton zingers. She says she belongs in the big house, not the White House.
She’s escaped prosecution more times than El Chapo... the woman should be prosecuted!
The sharp attack on Clinton wins big applause and cheers.
Carly Fiorina: I don't do personal attacks . . .but Hillary Clinton is just like El Chapo
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00:40
Jim Gilmore’s “when I’m president of the United States” line is starting to look more and more unfeasible, according to ABC’s Ryan Struyk.
Gilmore has already missed ballot deadlines in: GA, AL, AR, ID, OK, OH, MI, UT, TX, AZ, ME, MO, IL, LA, KY, DC, NV, VT, MS, KS.
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Commercial break! Who’s winning? Still Gilmore?
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Tom McCarthy
Santorum is asked how his flat tax would create jobs. He doesn’t say that it’s not the job of the tax code to create jobs. But he turns to regulation, saying he would cut “every single Obama regulation, including Obamacare.” He lists ozone regulations, mercury regulations and emissions.
“You want to help the environment?” Santorum says. “Bring jobs back to America.”
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Tom McCarthy
Huckabee takes a familiar question, about the anti-tax Club for Growth’s negative appraisal of his governorship. They say he raised taxes. He says he did not.
“Look at the overall record, and it’s fine,” he says. Maybe. But in any case, Huckabee raised taxes in Arkansas.
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Tom McCarthy
When Jim Gilmore’s president of the United States, gun control is not going to be an issue.
He says he’d veto gun control legislation as “fast as it takes Hillary Clinton to delete her emails.”
The crowd’s not too enthusiastic about Gilmore.
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