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Scott Morrison questioned about tax reform while releasing growth figures – politics live Malcolm Turnbull refers submarine leaks to federal police – question time live
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Two Dorothy Dixers on growth.
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Shorten comes back with the obvious question: so was the former prime minister’s version of events in The Australian this morning wrong?
Malcolm Turnbull:
The chief of the defence force confirmed yesterday, as honourable members would have noted, that there has been no delay to the future submarine program. The actual delivery date, the first future submarine, will depend naturally on the outcome of the competitive evaluation process which is under way and that reality has not changed.
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Question time
It being 2pm.
Bill Shorten opens today on the leak to The Australian about submarines. Has this gone to the police?
It has, as a matter of fact.
Malcolm Turnbull:
I can confirm that the secretary of the department of defence has advised me that he has initiated an investigation which will obviously be conducted by the Australian Federal Police into the apparent leak of these classified documents, that were referred to in the newspaper.
I should also advise the House, Mr Speaker, that the secretary of defence and the chief of the defence force have advised the ... their advice to the government since 2013 has been that it was highly unlikely the first of the future submarines could be delivered by 2026, and an extension of life for the Collins class submarine would almost certainly be required.
The secretary and the chief of the defence force further advised us that a study commissioned by the defence minister confirmed in 2012 that an extension of life for the Collins submarine was feasible and practical.
The department of defence and the Australian Defence Force have since that time worked on the basis that an extension of life would be undertaken as the only practical option to ensure that there was no capability gap between the Collins and the future submarines.
(Take that Tony.)
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People just being mean now.
Christie right now. https://t.co/BfMaG4y5ci
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Lest you think I jest.
Trump on Super Tuesday: It's really been great. pic.twitter.com/s4NKQWDtaO
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Meanwhile, somewhere in the Super Tuesday parallel universe, I can see Chris Christie standing behind Donald Trump as a human endorsement. He’s looking at Trump in the way you regard a minor deity. Truly disorienting.
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Worth posting this section of Trent Zimmerman’s speech in full I think.Worth posting this section of Trent Zimmerman’s speech in full I think.
Mr Speaker, I am very conscious that my election to this Parliament represents the first time an openly gay man or woman has entered the House of Representatives.Mr Speaker, I am very conscious that my election to this Parliament represents the first time an openly gay man or woman has entered the House of Representatives.
I am proud to do so as a member of the Liberal Party. I am of course not the first in this Parliament – and I pay tribute to those that have forged a path in the Senate.I am proud to do so as a member of the Liberal Party. I am of course not the first in this Parliament – and I pay tribute to those that have forged a path in the Senate.
Some have said to me this is not an issue I need reflect upon, particularly on an occasion such as this. Surely a person’s sexuality is irrelevant in this day and age, they have asked.Some have said to me this is not an issue I need reflect upon, particularly on an occasion such as this. Surely a person’s sexuality is irrelevant in this day and age, they have asked.
We do live at a time and in a world where we can be proud of how far we have progressed in breaking down centuries of discrimination against gay and lesbian people. This weekend hundreds of thousands – gay and straight - will join together to recognise diversity, acceptance and respect at the Sydney Mardi Gras. They will do so peacefully and in a spirit of celebration.We do live at a time and in a world where we can be proud of how far we have progressed in breaking down centuries of discrimination against gay and lesbian people. This weekend hundreds of thousands – gay and straight - will join together to recognise diversity, acceptance and respect at the Sydney Mardi Gras. They will do so peacefully and in a spirit of celebration.
It’s emblematic of the change that has occurred and, in many respects, it’s no surprise and so very Australian. While we have made great strides discrimination remains and too many are prepared to peddle prejudice.It’s emblematic of the change that has occurred and, in many respects, it’s no surprise and so very Australian. While we have made great strides discrimination remains and too many are prepared to peddle prejudice.
Our laws still deny access to marriage - our society’s ultimate expression of love and commitment. Young gay men and women are more likely to suffer depression and other mental health issues. They are more likely to be bullied at school. More are likely to attempt to take their own lives and tragically some will succeed.Our laws still deny access to marriage - our society’s ultimate expression of love and commitment. Young gay men and women are more likely to suffer depression and other mental health issues. They are more likely to be bullied at school. More are likely to attempt to take their own lives and tragically some will succeed.
Coming out remains hard for many people. And believe me, I know what that’s like. And while people feel the need to suppress their identity they will live in a life of fear and trepidation. They are denied the opportunity to love and be loved. To be full and flourishing member of our community. To simply be themselves. We will not have reached the end of the journey until no person feels compelled to live a life that is not their own.Coming out remains hard for many people. And believe me, I know what that’s like. And while people feel the need to suppress their identity they will live in a life of fear and trepidation. They are denied the opportunity to love and be loved. To be full and flourishing member of our community. To simply be themselves. We will not have reached the end of the journey until no person feels compelled to live a life that is not their own.
Until we recognise that a person’s sexuality is not a choice or a preference – it is as innate as the colour of their skin. We should regard intolerance in the same way modern Australia regards discrimination based on sex or race – no more and no less.Until we recognise that a person’s sexuality is not a choice or a preference – it is as innate as the colour of their skin. We should regard intolerance in the same way modern Australia regards discrimination based on sex or race – no more and no less.
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Hello.Hello.
Is it me you’re looking for?Is it me you’re looking for?
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Politics this lunchtimePolitics this lunchtime
Let’s take a few minutes to check where everything is up to.Let’s take a few minutes to check where everything is up to.
And so we go in the direction of question time.And so we go in the direction of question time.
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Meanwhile, in Texas.Meanwhile, in Texas.
#BREAKING: Clinton, Cruz win in Texas on Super Tuesday: US networks #SuperTuesday#BREAKING: Clinton, Cruz win in Texas on Super Tuesday: US networks #SuperTuesday
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Zimmerman rips through urban congestion, public transport (he’s a supporter, seeing no logic in funding roads and not rail), multiculturalism (Australia’s great achievement). A shout out to the Armenian community (Turkey should acknowledge the genocide), a shout out to friends and mentors (Bruce Baird, Robert Hill) – before wrapping in this way.Zimmerman rips through urban congestion, public transport (he’s a supporter, seeing no logic in funding roads and not rail), multiculturalism (Australia’s great achievement). A shout out to the Armenian community (Turkey should acknowledge the genocide), a shout out to friends and mentors (Bruce Baird, Robert Hill) – before wrapping in this way.
Mr Speaker, there has never been a more exiting time to be the member for North Sydney!Mr Speaker, there has never been a more exiting time to be the member for North Sydney!
(Crawling. He’ll go far, this chap.)(Crawling. He’ll go far, this chap.)
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There’s a segment of the speech devoted to short-termism and the perils associated with that. Democracy, he says, promotes short term decision making. Zimmerman says three year terms are too short. Three year terms means two years of governing followed by a year of election posturing. He supports four year terms.There’s a segment of the speech devoted to short-termism and the perils associated with that. Democracy, he says, promotes short term decision making. Zimmerman says three year terms are too short. Three year terms means two years of governing followed by a year of election posturing. He supports four year terms.
It should be done and it should be done soon.It should be done and it should be done soon.
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Zimmerman is telling the chamber of his long held passion for politics – doing work experience for Nick Greiner, who called him Troy. He describes his own politics as warm, dry and green. He’s a liberal, in the classical sense. Zimmerman says economic freedoms are the inseparable twin of personal freedoms.Zimmerman is telling the chamber of his long held passion for politics – doing work experience for Nick Greiner, who called him Troy. He describes his own politics as warm, dry and green. He’s a liberal, in the classical sense. Zimmerman says economic freedoms are the inseparable twin of personal freedoms.
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Down in the House, Trent Zimmerman – the chap who replaced Joe Hockey in the seat of north Sydney – is making his first speech to parliament. Zimmerman refers to the traditional owners from his part of Sydney, before moving to the harbour, and the bridge, and the built heritage of the densely populated part of the city. Chatswood, he notes, rises like a citadel from dense bush. (Citadel is not quite the word I’d use for Chatswood, but I respect his love of place.)Down in the House, Trent Zimmerman – the chap who replaced Joe Hockey in the seat of north Sydney – is making his first speech to parliament. Zimmerman refers to the traditional owners from his part of Sydney, before moving to the harbour, and the bridge, and the built heritage of the densely populated part of the city. Chatswood, he notes, rises like a citadel from dense bush. (Citadel is not quite the word I’d use for Chatswood, but I respect his love of place.)
Zimmerman then reflects on his sexuality. He is proud to represent the Liberal party as an openly gay man. He wants to own that fact as a symbol of progress when too many people are prepared to peddle prejudice. He says coming out is a hard thing, particularly for young vulnerable people. He says a person’s sexuality is not a choice, it is innate.Zimmerman then reflects on his sexuality. He is proud to represent the Liberal party as an openly gay man. He wants to own that fact as a symbol of progress when too many people are prepared to peddle prejudice. He says coming out is a hard thing, particularly for young vulnerable people. He says a person’s sexuality is not a choice, it is innate.
Trent Zimmerman:Trent Zimmerman:
I hope my election to this place will send a small message of hope.I hope my election to this place will send a small message of hope.
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Deeply irritating when a day is so brisk that I can’t do justice to Magic Mike. I’ll try and make that up where I can. Look at this marvellous shot from the Di Natale/Rhiannon press conference from earlier today.
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Q: Do you still think there are excesses in the negative gearing system?
Morrison says his recent comments on this question relate to the distribution of how people engage in it. The treasurer says there’s nothing wrong with that in principle, but the government is asking about the broader consequences. Morrison says the prime minister put things like negative gearing back on the table so it could be examined. This is a considered process.
We’ll do the homework, then we’ll make an announcement.
Q: Where are the excesses though?
Morrison repeats his formulation that there is a distribution of people who engage in negative gearing. Let’s cut through here – this is basically code for high net wealth individuals. He says there are people who report net rental losses of $50,000.
Those who are more engaged in negative gearing have higher incomes.
Translation being: we are looking at those folks. We may do something, we may not, we’ll get back to you.
1.10am GMT
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Q: How do you expect to reduce government spending in a time of weak nominal GDP growth?
Morrison says revenue as a share of the economy will continue to rise. He says when it comes to forecasting, he’s seeking to be honest. He says the government needs to continue down the path of fiscal consolidation.
Morrison says if you want to boost confidence, you don’t jack up the GST. He pauses momentarily.
CGT.
Capital gains tax.
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Morrison is asked what he made of Tony Abbott’s intervention in the partyroom meeting yesterday. The treasurer hopes there are some economists in the room who are interested about the December quarter growth figures.
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To questions now.
The treasurer is asked about tax reform. Where does his appetite sit now? Morrison says the scope for tax relief is limited. There’s no surplus and no growth dividend.
You’ve got to deal with the situation you are in.
How about bracket creep, what’s a reasonable tax cut? Morrison says a tax cut has to be funded. Expenditure cuts need to go to the business of achieving a surplus. As to specifics, you’ll find out in the budget in May. Morrison says he wants to reward effort, but the size of the reward is contingent on the fiscal circumstances.
12.59am GMT
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Morrison is working through how the growth forecast impacts the budget. He says fiscal consolidation will take budgets and budgets and budgets. Nominal GDP is not supplying a tailwind. The treasurer says he has a close eye on expenditure restraint (thanks for that, Tony), but the economic circumstances are what they are.
12.53am GMT
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Down in the Blue Room, the treasurer Scott Morrison is welcoming the GDP figures.
We are growing faster than every economy in the G7.
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Labor is trying to insist that all divisions on this bill are accompanied by ringing the bells for four minutes. Sorry Penny (Wong), says president Parry. We will ring the bells for one minute.
Labor Senator, Jacinta Collins.
This is a gag on a gag!
12.48am GMT
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The Senate voting reform bill has now moved to the first reading.