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Malcolm Turnbull refers submarine leaks to federal police – question time live Malcolm Turnbull refers submarine leaks to federal police – question time live
(35 minutes later)
3.54am GMT
03:54
Chris Bowen has asked the treasurer whether or not he knows what negative gearing is given earlier he described it as an “entirely legitimate practice to offset the cost of earning an income against that income.” (He did, actually. A slight swerve into incoherence.)
Q: Is the treasurer aware that that is not negative gearing? Does the treasurer know what negative gearing is?
The treasurer thinks people aren’t interested in school boy debating tricks, they are interested in real developments in the economy.
3.42am GMT
03:42
Labor’s deputy leader Tanya Plibersek wonders if the prime minister eventually caves in and does nothing to negative gearing this will be a co-captain’s call. She means that Tony Abbott will have effectively forced Turnbull’s hand.
Speaker Smith notes this last reference has breached the irony limits.
The prime minister opens on Labor’s negative gearing policy, and the socialist paradise offered after the next election.
3.36am GMT
03:36
Two Dorothy Dixers about thuggish union behaviour on building sites. One for Christopher Pyne and a second for trade minister Steve Ciobo.
3.34am GMT
03:34
Another question from Bowen to Morrison about negative gearing.
Q: Today, the treasurer said in reference to Labor’s negative gearing reforms: “Obviously those who are more engaged in negative gearing have higher incomes than those who are on modest incomes.” Is the treasurer aware that is the point?
Morrison says Labor’s policy benefits wealthy investors and stings modest investors. That’s a bad policy, he reasons.
3.29am GMT
03:29
Meanwhile, down the back.
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03:26
Tasmanian independent Andrew Wilkie.
Q: My question is specifically to the prime minister because the community wants to hear his answer. PM, I’ve just given notice of a private member’s bill to combat poker machine problem gambling that would bring in the $1 maximum bet and mandatory pre-commitment. Since poker machine gamblers are concerned, will you support the bill or at least allow a debate on it?
Turnbull says gambling is a state issue. He throws then to human services minister Alan Tudge, who doesn’t care for mandatory pre-commitment.
Alan Tudge:
I think the problems of the future will come from the online environment where as you would be aware we have an inquiry into that and we will be responding to that shortly.
3.21am GMT
03:21
Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen is up now on negative gearing. Actually he’s up now with a gratuitous crack against Scott Morrison. He wonders whether the treasurer is one excess that the government can deal with?
The question infers there’s a division in thinking between Turnbull and Morrison on negative gearing: Morrison wants to act, Turnbull doesn’t.
Morrison tells Bowen he’s not rushing to failure, unlike the Labor party.
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03:1503:15
Two Dorothy Dixers on growth.Two Dorothy Dixers on growth.
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Shorten comes back with the obvious question: so was the former prime minister’s version of events in The Australian this morning wrong?Shorten comes back with the obvious question: so was the former prime minister’s version of events in The Australian this morning wrong?
Malcolm Turnbull:Malcolm Turnbull:
The chief of the defence force confirmed yesterday, as honourable members would have noted, that there has been no delay to the future submarine program. The actual delivery date, the first future submarine, will depend naturally on the outcome of the competitive evaluation process which is under way and that reality has not changed.The chief of the defence force confirmed yesterday, as honourable members would have noted, that there has been no delay to the future submarine program. The actual delivery date, the first future submarine, will depend naturally on the outcome of the competitive evaluation process which is under way and that reality has not changed.
3.08am GMT3.08am GMT
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Question timeQuestion time
It being 2pm.It being 2pm.
Bill Shorten opens today on the leak to The Australian about submarines. Has this gone to the police?Bill Shorten opens today on the leak to The Australian about submarines. Has this gone to the police?
It has, as a matter of fact.It has, as a matter of fact.
Malcolm Turnbull:Malcolm Turnbull:
I can confirm that the secretary of the department of defence has advised me that he has initiated an investigation which will obviously be conducted by the Australian Federal Police into the apparent leak of these classified documents, that were referred to in the newspaper.I can confirm that the secretary of the department of defence has advised me that he has initiated an investigation which will obviously be conducted by the Australian Federal Police into the apparent leak of these classified documents, that were referred to in the newspaper.
I should also advise the House, Mr Speaker, that the secretary of defence and the chief of the defence force have advised the ... their advice to the government since 2013 has been that it was highly unlikely the first of the future submarines could be delivered by 2026, and an extension of life for the Collins class submarine would almost certainly be required.I should also advise the House, Mr Speaker, that the secretary of defence and the chief of the defence force have advised the ... their advice to the government since 2013 has been that it was highly unlikely the first of the future submarines could be delivered by 2026, and an extension of life for the Collins class submarine would almost certainly be required.
The secretary and the chief of the defence force further advised us that a study commissioned by the defence minister confirmed in 2012 that an extension of life for the Collins submarine was feasible and practical.The secretary and the chief of the defence force further advised us that a study commissioned by the defence minister confirmed in 2012 that an extension of life for the Collins submarine was feasible and practical.
The department of defence and the Australian Defence Force have since that time worked on the basis that an extension of life would be undertaken as the only practical option to ensure that there was no capability gap between the Collins and the future submarines.The department of defence and the Australian Defence Force have since that time worked on the basis that an extension of life would be undertaken as the only practical option to ensure that there was no capability gap between the Collins and the future submarines.
(Take that Tony.)(Take that Tony.)
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02:5202:52
People just being mean now.People just being mean now.
Christie right now. https://t.co/BfMaG4y5ciChristie right now. https://t.co/BfMaG4y5ci
2.47am GMT
02:47
Lest you think I jest.
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2.46am GMT
02:46
Meanwhile, somewhere in the Super Tuesday parallel universe, I can see Chris Christie standing behind Donald Trump as a human endorsement. He’s looking at Trump in the way you regard a minor deity. Truly disorienting.
2.40am GMT
02:40
Worth posting this section of Trent Zimmerman’s speech in full I think.
Mr Speaker, I am very conscious that my election to this Parliament represents the first time an openly gay man or woman has entered the House of Representatives.
I am proud to do so as a member of the Liberal Party. I am of course not the first in this Parliament – and I pay tribute to those that have forged a path in the Senate.
Some have said to me this is not an issue I need reflect upon, particularly on an occasion such as this. Surely a person’s sexuality is irrelevant in this day and age, they have asked.
We do live at a time and in a world where we can be proud of how far we have progressed in breaking down centuries of discrimination against gay and lesbian people. This weekend hundreds of thousands – gay and straight - will join together to recognise diversity, acceptance and respect at the Sydney Mardi Gras. They will do so peacefully and in a spirit of celebration.
It’s emblematic of the change that has occurred and, in many respects, it’s no surprise and so very Australian. While we have made great strides discrimination remains and too many are prepared to peddle prejudice.
Our laws still deny access to marriage - our society’s ultimate expression of love and commitment. Young gay men and women are more likely to suffer depression and other mental health issues. They are more likely to be bullied at school. More are likely to attempt to take their own lives and tragically some will succeed.
Coming out remains hard for many people. And believe me, I know what that’s like. And while people feel the need to suppress their identity they will live in a life of fear and trepidation. They are denied the opportunity to love and be loved. To be full and flourishing member of our community. To simply be themselves. We will not have reached the end of the journey until no person feels compelled to live a life that is not their own.
Until we recognise that a person’s sexuality is not a choice or a preference – it is as innate as the colour of their skin. We should regard intolerance in the same way modern Australia regards discrimination based on sex or race – no more and no less.
2.29am GMT
02:29
Hello.
Is it me you’re looking for?
2.26am GMT
02:26
Politics this lunchtime
Let’s take a few minutes to check where everything is up to.
And so we go in the direction of question time.
2.03am GMT
02:03
Meanwhile, in Texas.
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1.55am GMT
01:55
Zimmerman rips through urban congestion, public transport (he’s a supporter, seeing no logic in funding roads and not rail), multiculturalism (Australia’s great achievement). A shout out to the Armenian community (Turkey should acknowledge the genocide), a shout out to friends and mentors (Bruce Baird, Robert Hill) – before wrapping in this way.
Mr Speaker, there has never been a more exiting time to be the member for North Sydney!
(Crawling. He’ll go far, this chap.)
1.47am GMT
01:47
There’s a segment of the speech devoted to short-termism and the perils associated with that. Democracy, he says, promotes short term decision making. Zimmerman says three year terms are too short. Three year terms means two years of governing followed by a year of election posturing. He supports four year terms.
It should be done and it should be done soon.
1.43am GMT
01:43
Zimmerman is telling the chamber of his long held passion for politics – doing work experience for Nick Greiner, who called him Troy. He describes his own politics as warm, dry and green. He’s a liberal, in the classical sense. Zimmerman says economic freedoms are the inseparable twin of personal freedoms.
1.36am GMT
01:36
Down in the House, Trent Zimmerman – the chap who replaced Joe Hockey in the seat of north Sydney – is making his first speech to parliament. Zimmerman refers to the traditional owners from his part of Sydney, before moving to the harbour, and the bridge, and the built heritage of the densely populated part of the city. Chatswood, he notes, rises like a citadel from dense bush. (Citadel is not quite the word I’d use for Chatswood, but I respect his love of place.)
Zimmerman then reflects on his sexuality. He is proud to represent the Liberal party as an openly gay man. He wants to own that fact as a symbol of progress when too many people are prepared to peddle prejudice. He says coming out is a hard thing, particularly for young vulnerable people. He says a person’s sexuality is not a choice, it is innate.
Trent Zimmerman:
I hope my election to this place will send a small message of hope.