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| Dilma Rousseff impeachment: votes mount against Brazilian president – live | Dilma Rousseff impeachment: votes mount against Brazilian president – live |
| (35 minutes later) | |
| 6.17am BST | |
| 06:17 | |
| Associated Press files this dispatch from the late-night sitting: | |
| Brazilian senators have a long way to go to finish their debate on whether to impeach President Dilma Rousseff. | |
| The chamber is still crowded, although there are more aides than senators themselves. Older senators have gone off for naps and are having their aides call when their time to speak is about to come. | |
| The Senate leader, Renan Claheiros, had hoped the body could vote on impeachment by late Wednesday. He is now predicting that the vote can be held around 6am local time (5am EDT/10am BST/7pm AEST). | |
| If a simple majority of the 81 senators vote in favour, Rousseff will be suspended from office and vice-president Michel Temer will take over for up to six months pending a decision on whether to remove her from office permanently. | |
| 6.10am BST | |
| 06:10 | |
| Pro- and anti-Rousseff demonstrators have been waiting outside the government buildings for the conclusion of the Senate session – which could still be some hours away. | |
| Polls have found a majority of Brazilians in favour of impeaching Rousseff, though many remain concerned about those likely to succeed her. | |
| 5.47am BST | 5.47am BST |
| 05:47 | 05:47 |
| Latest tally of the 50 senators who have spoken so far: | Latest tally of the 50 senators who have spoken so far: |
| And another reminder: a simple majority is required to see Rousseff suspended. On a full complement of 81 senators, with all members present, that’s 41 votes needed for the impeachment process to go ahead. | And another reminder: a simple majority is required to see Rousseff suspended. On a full complement of 81 senators, with all members present, that’s 41 votes needed for the impeachment process to go ahead. |
| So far, we have not seen all senators in the chamber. However, that could of course change when voting officially begins. | So far, we have not seen all senators in the chamber. However, that could of course change when voting officially begins. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 6.04am BST | at 6.04am BST |
| 5.36am BST | 5.36am BST |
| 05:36 | 05:36 |
| We reach a milestone of sorts with the 50th senator to come forward to make a speech: Paulo Rocha. | We reach a milestone of sorts with the 50th senator to come forward to make a speech: Paulo Rocha. |
| Seventy-one senators are slated to have their 15 minutes at the podium before voting officially starts. | Seventy-one senators are slated to have their 15 minutes at the podium before voting officially starts. |
| 5.34am BST | 5.34am BST |
| 05:34 | 05:34 |
| Lindbergh Farias, a senator for Rousseff’s Workers’ party, is up now and despite the late hour – it’s currently 1.30am in Brasilia – is making an impassioned speech, saying the prospective Temer government is “born bankrupt” and “paving the way towards fascism”. | Lindbergh Farias, a senator for Rousseff’s Workers’ party, is up now and despite the late hour – it’s currently 1.30am in Brasilia – is making an impassioned speech, saying the prospective Temer government is “born bankrupt” and “paving the way towards fascism”. |
| “We will not recognise this government,” he says. | “We will not recognise this government,” he says. |
| Lindbergh: "Não vamos reconhecer esse governo. Temer será o primeiro presidente a assumir como ficha suja" #ImpeachmentDay #SeEuFosseDilma | Lindbergh: "Não vamos reconhecer esse governo. Temer será o primeiro presidente a assumir como ficha suja" #ImpeachmentDay #SeEuFosseDilma |
| “We know the result today,” he says, before exhorting colleagues to mount a strong opposition. The senate is looking fairly sparsely occupied at this point, however. | “We know the result today,” he says, before exhorting colleagues to mount a strong opposition. The senate is looking fairly sparsely occupied at this point, however. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 5.35am BST | at 5.35am BST |
| 5.20am BST | 5.20am BST |
| 05:20 | 05:20 |
| Someone at the Associated Press is suffering from lack of sleep, if the headline on its latest report is anything to go by: | Someone at the Associated Press is suffering from lack of sleep, if the headline on its latest report is anything to go by: |
| Debate on future of Brazil’s president drones into 2nd day | Debate on future of Brazil’s president drones into 2nd day |
| 5.10am BST | 5.10am BST |
| 05:10 | 05:10 |
| Fernando Bezerra Coelho, a former minister in Rousseff’s administration, has said he will vote to impeach her. | Fernando Bezerra Coelho, a former minister in Rousseff’s administration, has said he will vote to impeach her. |
| 4.59am BST | 4.59am BST |
| 04:59 | 04:59 |
| The removal of the president “will not resolve the serious political and economic crisis experienced by the country”, Lídice da Mata adds. | The removal of the president “will not resolve the serious political and economic crisis experienced by the country”, Lídice da Mata adds. |
| She says Temer will struggle with a lack of legitimacy should he become president. | She says Temer will struggle with a lack of legitimacy should he become president. |
| She will vote against impeachment. | She will vote against impeachment. |
| 4.53am BST | 4.53am BST |
| 04:53 | 04:53 |
| Socialist party senator Lídice da Mata has been speaking. She says “all presidents and dozens of governors” have committed the acts for which Rousseff is now condemned. | Socialist party senator Lídice da Mata has been speaking. She says “all presidents and dozens of governors” have committed the acts for which Rousseff is now condemned. |
| She adds that Temer’s move to assemble his new government before the impeachment process was even completed was a move that would make even House of Cards protagonist Frank Underwood blush. | She adds that Temer’s move to assemble his new government before the impeachment process was even completed was a move that would make even House of Cards protagonist Frank Underwood blush. |
| “atitude que faria corar Frank Underwood da série House Off Cards em que vice dos EUA conspira p/derrubar presidente eleito” #EquipeLídice | “atitude que faria corar Frank Underwood da série House Off Cards em que vice dos EUA conspira p/derrubar presidente eleito” #EquipeLídice |
| 4.42am BST | 4.42am BST |
| 04:42 | 04:42 |
| We have now reached 34 senators announcing their intention to vote for impeachment, 10 against, and one – Collor – who made a speech but didn’t show his hand. | We have now reached 34 senators announcing their intention to vote for impeachment, 10 against, and one – Collor – who made a speech but didn’t show his hand. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 4.59am BST | at 4.59am BST |
| 4.27am BST | 4.27am BST |
| 04:27 | 04:27 |
| Cardoso: 'clear case of impeachment' | Cardoso: 'clear case of impeachment' |
| Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who was president of Brazil from 1995 to 2003, has been speaking on CNN. He thinks the senate vote will go against Rousseff: | Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who was president of Brazil from 1995 to 2003, has been speaking on CNN. He thinks the senate vote will go against Rousseff: |
| Probably the decision will be to continue to proceed with the impeachment process. | Probably the decision will be to continue to proceed with the impeachment process. |
| Having previously opposed the move, Cardoso says he recently decided to back impeachment: | Having previously opposed the move, Cardoso says he recently decided to back impeachment: |
| I was reluctant at the beginning because i know how hard is the process of impeachment … Now is different. Brazil is a sound democracy [and] the constitution is very clear. | I was reluctant at the beginning because i know how hard is the process of impeachment … Now is different. Brazil is a sound democracy [and] the constitution is very clear. |
| Quizzed on why Rousseff is being pursued for flouting financial rules broken by former leaders, including Cardoso himself, he adds: | Quizzed on why Rousseff is being pursued for flouting financial rules broken by former leaders, including Cardoso himself, he adds: |
| It’s quite different to what I did and President Lula … it’s quite a clear case of impeachment … It’s obvious that this is against the constitution. | It’s quite different to what I did and President Lula … it’s quite a clear case of impeachment … It’s obvious that this is against the constitution. |
| On what happens next for Brazil, Cardoso says: | On what happens next for Brazil, Cardoso says: |
| There is an enormous amount of corruption, not only within government but sustained by people within government … People don’t trust any more the political system, political life. | There is an enormous amount of corruption, not only within government but sustained by people within government … People don’t trust any more the political system, political life. |
| Since President Rousseff was not able to regain confidence … why was she proceeding the way she was? She was increasing the lack of confidence. | Since President Rousseff was not able to regain confidence … why was she proceeding the way she was? She was increasing the lack of confidence. |
| To me this is a more profound crisis than just the case of President Rousseff. | To me this is a more profound crisis than just the case of President Rousseff. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 4.29am BST | at 4.29am BST |
| 4.11am BST | 4.11am BST |
| 04:11 | 04:11 |
| Senate leader enjoys a joke | Senate leader enjoys a joke |
| Ex-president Collor makes his speech | Ex-president Collor makes his speech |
| Outside the Senate | Outside the Senate |
| 3.56am BST | 3.56am BST |
| 03:56 | 03:56 |
| So far, 41 of the 71 senators who have indicated they will speak in the debate (of the 81 senators in total) have said their piece. | So far, 41 of the 71 senators who have indicated they will speak in the debate (of the 81 senators in total) have said their piece. |
| Of these 41: | Of these 41: |
| The vote itself is not due to take place until around 4am local time. | The vote itself is not due to take place until around 4am local time. |
| 3.43am BST | 3.43am BST |
| 03:43 | 03:43 |
| What happens next? | What happens next? |
| Dilma Rousseff has been preparing for defeat by planning her exit from the presidential palace, Reuters reports: | Dilma Rousseff has been preparing for defeat by planning her exit from the presidential palace, Reuters reports: |
| Aides said she will dismiss her ministers on Thursday morning and tell them not to help a transition to a Temer government because she considers her impeachment illegal. | Aides said she will dismiss her ministers on Thursday morning and tell them not to help a transition to a Temer government because she considers her impeachment illegal. |
| With a change of government imminent, Michel Temer plans to swear in new ministers on Thursday afternoon, Senator Romero Jucá, head of his Brazilian Democratic Movement party (PMDB), told reporters. | With a change of government imminent, Michel Temer plans to swear in new ministers on Thursday afternoon, Senator Romero Jucá, head of his Brazilian Democratic Movement party (PMDB), told reporters. |
| The president’s plan to dismiss all her cabinet if and when the Senate suspends her will force Temer to hit the ground running, since he was counting on a gradual transition to a new cabinet. | The president’s plan to dismiss all her cabinet if and when the Senate suspends her will force Temer to hit the ground running, since he was counting on a gradual transition to a new cabinet. |
| Two Rousseff aides said, however, that the dismissal of her cabinet would exclude central bank governor Alexandre Tombini, and the current sports minister, who is scrambling to prepare for the Rio 2016 games. | Two Rousseff aides said, however, that the dismissal of her cabinet would exclude central bank governor Alexandre Tombini, and the current sports minister, who is scrambling to prepare for the Rio 2016 games. |
| Leaning toward a liberal economic policy, Temer has picked former central bank chief Henrique Meirelles to be finance minister and Itau Unibanco’s chief economist Ilan Goldfajn as head of the central bank. | Leaning toward a liberal economic policy, Temer has picked former central bank chief Henrique Meirelles to be finance minister and Itau Unibanco’s chief economist Ilan Goldfajn as head of the central bank. |
| 3.29am BST | 3.29am BST |
| 03:29 | 03:29 |
| An updated tally: so far 29 senators have said they will vote in favour of impeachment. | An updated tally: so far 29 senators have said they will vote in favour of impeachment. |
| Nine have said they will vote against. | Nine have said they will vote against. |
| With your customary reminder: a simple majority is enough to see Rousseff suspended. On a full complement of 81 senators, with all members present, that’s 41 votes needed to impeach. | With your customary reminder: a simple majority is enough to see Rousseff suspended. On a full complement of 81 senators, with all members present, that’s 41 votes needed to impeach. |
| The vote itself will start after the 71 senators slated to speak have all had their turn. We are currently on number 40, Valdir Raupp. | The vote itself will start after the 71 senators slated to speak have all had their turn. We are currently on number 40, Valdir Raupp. |
| 3.14am BST | 3.14am BST |
| 03:14 | 03:14 |
| Ex-president Collor speaks in Senate | Ex-president Collor speaks in Senate |
| Former president Fernando Collor de Mello, who himself faced impeachment by the senate in 1992, speaks of a “country in ruins” at the “apex of a crisis”. | Former president Fernando Collor de Mello, who himself faced impeachment by the senate in 1992, speaks of a “country in ruins” at the “apex of a crisis”. |
| Collor na tribuna. Momento histórico da política brasileira pic.twitter.com/LkfPVYFMte | Collor na tribuna. Momento histórico da política brasileira pic.twitter.com/LkfPVYFMte |
| Talking of the impeachment process he faced, Collor says he was falsely accused. He appears to be talking about himself rather a lot. “There was no crime” in his case, he insists. Nonetheless he lost the presidency. | Talking of the impeachment process he faced, Collor says he was falsely accused. He appears to be talking about himself rather a lot. “There was no crime” in his case, he insists. Nonetheless he lost the presidency. |
| People did not listen to his advice about the current crisis, he says. Amid coups, the presidency has enjoyed only “spasms of democracy”. | People did not listen to his advice about the current crisis, he says. Amid coups, the presidency has enjoyed only “spasms of democracy”. |
| Collar is certainly opposed to his own impeachment vote of 24 years ago. He did not say explicitly how he would vote today. | Collar is certainly opposed to his own impeachment vote of 24 years ago. He did not say explicitly how he would vote today. |
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| at 5.23am BST | at 5.23am BST |
| 2.56am BST | 2.56am BST |
| 02:56 | 02:56 |
| At the moment, though, we are watching Senator Armando Monteiro make his speech. He was a minister in Rousseff’s government and opposes impeachment, which he says would “cause a serious institutional rupture” in Brazil. | At the moment, though, we are watching Senator Armando Monteiro make his speech. He was a minister in Rousseff’s government and opposes impeachment, which he says would “cause a serious institutional rupture” in Brazil. |
| O senador @ArmandoPTB fala agora sobre o golpe:"Estaremos provocando a uma grave ruptura institucional do País" | O senador @ArmandoPTB fala agora sobre o golpe:"Estaremos provocando a uma grave ruptura institucional do País" |
| 2.52am BST | 2.52am BST |
| 02:52 | 02:52 |
| Fernando Collor de Mello, the first democratically elected president of post-military Brazil, is due to speak next. | Fernando Collor de Mello, the first democratically elected president of post-military Brazil, is due to speak next. |
| He himself faced impeachment in 1992 – though he resigned before being disqualified by a vote in the senate – and as a senator is one of those facing investigation as part of the Petrobras scandal for allegedly taking kickbacks. | He himself faced impeachment in 1992 – though he resigned before being disqualified by a vote in the senate – and as a senator is one of those facing investigation as part of the Petrobras scandal for allegedly taking kickbacks. |
| Collor, ex-president who was impeached himself but bounced back as a senator, coming up next. #impeachment https://t.co/MC5DEV2OQY | Collor, ex-president who was impeached himself but bounced back as a senator, coming up next. #impeachment https://t.co/MC5DEV2OQY |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 5.24am BST | at 5.24am BST |