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| EU referendum live: Cameron says Leave campaign are 'reckless' | EU referendum live: Cameron says Leave campaign are 'reckless' |
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| 2.09pm BST | |
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| Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP leader and Scottish first minister, has been tweeting about her reasons for supporting Remain. She will be one of three politicians arguing for Remain in the ITV debate on Thursday. | |
| 1/4 Those of us who don't want to turn our back on the world have a big job of work to do in next two weeks... | |
| 2/4 ...I believe in independence - passionately - but also in independent countries working together for good of all... | |
| 3/4 ...working together to protect workers, tackle climate change, preserve peace and guarantee our freedom of movement... | |
| 4/4 ...the Nigel Farage/Boris Johnson view of the world is not mine nor, I believe, that of majority of Scots. Let's show that. #VoteRemain | |
| 1.42pm BST | |
| 13:42 | |
| Q: Aren’t you encouraging hatred and bigotry? | |
| Farage says the political class has lied to people about Europe for 40 years. He says Anna Soubry, a business minister, recently said trade with the EU could dry up if the UK left the EU. That’s rubbish, he says. Just go to the supermarket this afternoon and look at all the goods from the EU on sale, he says. | |
| And that’s it. Referendum call with Farage is over. | |
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| 1.40pm BST | 1.40pm BST |
| 13:40 | 13:40 |
| Q: If an EU army is formed, will our army and nuclear weapons be included? | Q: If an EU army is formed, will our army and nuclear weapons be included? |
| Farage says if he could prove that, he would win the referendum easily. But he says that two years ago when he debated Nick Clegg, Clegg says Farage was a fantasist because he warned about this. But now it is happening. They are due to discuss it after the referendum. Jean-Claude Juncker has said he wants one. | Farage says if he could prove that, he would win the referendum easily. But he says that two years ago when he debated Nick Clegg, Clegg says Farage was a fantasist because he warned about this. But now it is happening. They are due to discuss it after the referendum. Jean-Claude Juncker has said he wants one. |
| Q: But the UK could veto it. | Q: But the UK could veto it. |
| No, says Farage. Under enhanced cooperation rules the UK could not veto this. | No, says Farage. Under enhanced cooperation rules the UK could not veto this. |
| 1.37pm BST | 1.37pm BST |
| 13:37 | 13:37 |
| Farage says, even if we went back to having to pay tariffs to trade with the EU, those tariffs would be so low that the savings from not having to contribute to the EU’s budget would compensate. | Farage says, even if we went back to having to pay tariffs to trade with the EU, those tariffs would be so low that the savings from not having to contribute to the EU’s budget would compensate. |
| 1.36pm BST | 1.36pm BST |
| 13:36 | 13:36 |
| Farage says he is bored with hearing people say the EU needs to be reformed. The constitutional convention was supposed to achieve this. One of the debates was about whether it should be democratised. But that option was utterly rejected, he says. | Farage says he is bored with hearing people say the EU needs to be reformed. The constitutional convention was supposed to achieve this. One of the debates was about whether it should be democratised. But that option was utterly rejected, he says. |
| 1.34pm BST | 1.34pm BST |
| 13:34 | 13:34 |
| Q: [From a Cornish fisherman] Would we get back control of our water? | Q: [From a Cornish fisherman] Would we get back control of our water? |
| Yes, says Farage. He says he attended a meeting recently with Norwegian fishermen. Their fishing waters extend for 200 miles, and their fishing industry is booming, he says. | Yes, says Farage. He says he attended a meeting recently with Norwegian fishermen. Their fishing waters extend for 200 miles, and their fishing industry is booming, he says. |
| He says he is a fisherman himself. But if he catches a sea bass, he is not allowed to take it home under EU laws, he says. | He says he is a fisherman himself. But if he catches a sea bass, he is not allowed to take it home under EU laws, he says. |
| 1.31pm BST | 1.31pm BST |
| 13:31 | 13:31 |
| Q: If we bring in visas for EU citizens, they will retaliate, won’t they? For a family of four, going to Spain could cost £150. | Q: If we bring in visas for EU citizens, they will retaliate, won’t they? For a family of four, going to Spain could cost £150. |
| Farage says he does not seen any need for visas for travel or holidays. But he does see the need for work permits. | Farage says he does not seen any need for visas for travel or holidays. But he does see the need for work permits. |
| He says the British spend a lot of money in Spain and France. They were not going to want to put a barrier in the way of Britons coming, he says. | He says the British spend a lot of money in Spain and France. They were not going to want to put a barrier in the way of Britons coming, he says. |
| Q: Would there be a border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic? | Q: Would there be a border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic? |
| No, says Farage. He says the Republic was sensible enough not to join the Schengen area. | No, says Farage. He says the Republic was sensible enough not to join the Schengen area. |
| Q: So how would you stop EU citizens coming to Ireland, and then travelling to Northern Ireland? | Q: So how would you stop EU citizens coming to Ireland, and then travelling to Northern Ireland? |
| Farage says that is something you would have to keep an eye on. | Farage says that is something you would have to keep an eye on. |
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| 13:27 | 13:27 |
| Q: Will Britain have a veto on Turkey joining the EU? | Q: Will Britain have a veto on Turkey joining the EU? |
| Farage says Cameron has said he wants Turkey to join the EU. He has got a veto. But it is not one he would ever use. | Farage says Cameron has said he wants Turkey to join the EU. He has got a veto. But it is not one he would ever use. |
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| 13:25 | 13:25 |
| Q: [From a woman living in France] What compensation will people like us get if we lose our pensions and free health care if the UK leaves the EU? | Q: [From a woman living in France] What compensation will people like us get if we lose our pensions and free health care if the UK leaves the EU? |
| Farage says the caller has been influenced by a scare campaign. He says the UK government pays the woman’s pension, so that will not be affected. And she will still get health care provided the UK continues to pay, as it does now. That will not change. | Farage says the caller has been influenced by a scare campaign. He says the UK government pays the woman’s pension, so that will not be affected. And she will still get health care provided the UK continues to pay, as it does now. That will not change. |
| 1.23pm BST | 1.23pm BST |
| 13:23 | 13:23 |
| Nigel Farage on World at One's Referendum Call | Nigel Farage on World at One's Referendum Call |
| Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is on the the World at One’s referendum call now. | Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is on the the World at One’s referendum call now. |
| He says even if the EU does not offer the UK a trade deal, the UK would still be better off out. | He says even if the EU does not offer the UK a trade deal, the UK would still be better off out. |
| Q: But all the experts say we would be better off in. | Q: But all the experts say we would be better off in. |
| Farage says there is something called groupthink out there. Organisations that are similar often think the same. They said we should join the euro, and that would have been a mistake. We should ignore them now. | Farage says there is something called groupthink out there. Organisations that are similar often think the same. They said we should join the euro, and that would have been a mistake. We should ignore them now. |
| 1.20pm BST | 1.20pm BST |
| 13:20 | 13:20 |
| Martin Lewis, who founded the MoneySavingExpert.com website, has just been on the World at One. He said that he personally was backing Remain because he is risk averse, and he thinks Brexit is the riskier option. But other people will take a different approach to risk and may want to vote differently, he said. | Martin Lewis, who founded the MoneySavingExpert.com website, has just been on the World at One. He said that he personally was backing Remain because he is risk averse, and he thinks Brexit is the riskier option. But other people will take a different approach to risk and may want to vote differently, he said. |
| He said there were more shades of grey here than on EL James’s bookshelf. | He said there were more shades of grey here than on EL James’s bookshelf. |
| This morning David Cameron tweeted a link to an article by Lewis explaining his position. | This morning David Cameron tweeted a link to an article by Lewis explaining his position. |
| Not sure which way to vote in the EU referendum? Read this from finance expert @MartinSLewis on why he's voting IN: https://t.co/rQof2uI88g | Not sure which way to vote in the EU referendum? Read this from finance expert @MartinSLewis on why he's voting IN: https://t.co/rQof2uI88g |
| Here is an extract from Lewis’s blog. | Here is an extract from Lewis’s blog. |
| I’m generally risk-averse, and that pushes me just towards an IN vote for safety, maybe 55% to 45%. Yet just as my dream holiday isn’t necessarily yours, no more is my choice of what’s right a call for you to follow me. | I’m generally risk-averse, and that pushes me just towards an IN vote for safety, maybe 55% to 45%. Yet just as my dream holiday isn’t necessarily yours, no more is my choice of what’s right a call for you to follow me. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 1.20pm BST | at 1.20pm BST |
| 1.02pm BST | 1.02pm BST |
| 13:02 | 13:02 |
| Osborne says Brexit would lead to border controls coming back in Northern Ireland | Osborne says Brexit would lead to border controls coming back in Northern Ireland |
| George Osborne, the chancellor, has been in Northern Ireland today campaign for Britain to remain in the EU. He went to Warrenpoint Port in Co Down, which is a stone’s throw from the Irish Republic, to warn about the implications of Brexit. Pointing to the Carlingford Lough waterway which separates the two countries, he said: | George Osborne, the chancellor, has been in Northern Ireland today campaign for Britain to remain in the EU. He went to Warrenpoint Port in Co Down, which is a stone’s throw from the Irish Republic, to warn about the implications of Brexit. Pointing to the Carlingford Lough waterway which separates the two countries, he said: |
| Let’s be clear, if we quit the EU then this is going to be the border with the European Union. | Let’s be clear, if we quit the EU then this is going to be the border with the European Union. |
| And all the things that those that want to quit the EU claim would happen - ie new immigration checkpoints, border controls and an end to free movement - that has a real consequence, and there would have to be a real hardening of the border imposed either by the British government or indeed by the Irish government ... | And all the things that those that want to quit the EU claim would happen - ie new immigration checkpoints, border controls and an end to free movement - that has a real consequence, and there would have to be a real hardening of the border imposed either by the British government or indeed by the Irish government ... |
| I was just talking to a guy who drives a truck - he remembers when it used to take two hours to get across the border and, as a result, business wouldn’t come here, jobs wouldn’t come here, people would trade directly with the Republic. | I was just talking to a guy who drives a truck - he remembers when it used to take two hours to get across the border and, as a result, business wouldn’t come here, jobs wouldn’t come here, people would trade directly with the Republic. |
| Leave campaigners in Northern Ireland, who include the Northern Ireland secretary Theresa Villiers, reject claims that Brexit would lead to border controls being re-imposed between Northern Ireland and the Republic. | Leave campaigners in Northern Ireland, who include the Northern Ireland secretary Theresa Villiers, reject claims that Brexit would lead to border controls being re-imposed between Northern Ireland and the Republic. |